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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 16, 2021 7:48:41 GMT -8
Apparently no other tested athletes have consumed "pork burritos".
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 16, 2021 9:33:04 GMT -8
Was the test a surprise?
If it was known that pork shows up in your system and you knew you had a test the next day, then that's on you. Order the shrimp burrito next time.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 16, 2021 10:30:58 GMT -8
Paul Greene, a lawyer for Global Sports Advocates, says pig meat has the potential to serve as a source for nandrolone,
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 16, 2021 10:50:51 GMT -8
Paul Greene, a lawyer for Global Sports Advocates, says pig meat has the potential to serve as a source for nandrolone, Something's not kosher here.
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Post by seastape on Jun 16, 2021 11:29:40 GMT -8
Pretty big leap there. It is an anabolic steroid after all. Regarding track uses, Linford Christie, a British sprinter and 1992 Olympic gold medalist, tested positive for nandrolone in 1999. The British Athletic Foundation found Linford Christie not guilty. The IAAF overruled the British Athletic Foundation and banned him for two years. The British Athletic Foundation found it unlikely that Linford Christie would intentionally use nandrolone, because it is primarily used to build muscle and would be generally counter-productive to a sprinter. Nandrolone is naturally-occurring in the human body. 19-norandrostenedione is a nandrolone precursor and can produce positive tests for nandrolone without using nandrolone. At the time, 19-norandrostenedione was sold over-the-counter in the United States of America. It is possible that Christie was using 19-norandrostenedione as a supplement without knowing that it could cause a positive nandrolone test. I'm not sure building muscle is a bad thing for a sprinter. Ben Johnson took a banned steroid that was similar to testosterone, which builds muscle tissue, among other things. There was a picture of Johnson and Carl Lewis in a race in which it looked like Johnson's deltoid muscle was ready to pop through his skin.
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Post by ag87 on Jun 16, 2021 12:19:32 GMT -8
The British Athletic Foundation found Linford Christie not guilty. The IAAF overruled the British Athletic Foundation and banned him for two years. The British Athletic Foundation found it unlikely that Linford Christie would intentionally use nandrolone, because it is primarily used to build muscle and would be generally counter-productive to a sprinter. Nandrolone is naturally-occurring in the human body. 19-norandrostenedione is a nandrolone precursor and can produce positive tests for nandrolone without using nandrolone. At the time, 19-norandrostenedione was sold over-the-counter in the United States of America. It is possible that Christie was using 19-norandrostenedione as a supplement without knowing that it could cause a positive nandrolone test. I'm not sure building muscle is a bad thing for a sprinter. Ben Johnson took a banned steroid that was similar to testosterone, which builds muscle tissue, among other things. There was a picture of Johnson and Carl Lewis in a race in which it looked like Johnson's deltoid muscle was ready to pop through his skin.
Yes, sprinters can be huge.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2021 14:33:25 GMT -8
Was the test a surprise? If it was known that pork shows up in your system and you knew you had a test the next day, then that's on you. Order the shrimp burrito next time. The test was an out-of-competition test. Such testing can be conducted with no or little notice. It is unclear whether she knew about it 10 hours beforehand. According to Shelby Houlihan, she ordered beef, but she received a pork burrito. Everyone she was with said that the burrito was a pork burrito. However, Shelby also said that she did not know that there could be nandrolone in pork at the time anyway. Women naturally produce nandrolone in higher (2-3 times) concentrations than men. 5 ng/ml is a tiny amount of nandrolone. That is actually near the low end of the range that a female can "fail" a drug test for nandrolone. And she was tested the next month and had no nandrolone. It sounds like garbage to me. Also, shrimp is very unhealthy, even moreso than pork.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 16, 2021 16:03:14 GMT -8
Was the test a surprise? If it was known that pork shows up in your system and you knew you had a test the next day, then that's on you. Order the shrimp burrito next time. The test was an out-of-competition test. Such testing can be conducted with no or little notice. It is unclear whether she knew about it 10 hours beforehand. According to Shelby Houlihan, she ordered beef, but she received a pork burrito. Everyone she was with said that the burrito was a pork burrito. However, Shelby also said that she did not know that there could be nandrolone in pork at the time anyway. Women naturally produce nandrolone in higher (2-3 times) concentrations than men. 5 ng/ml is a tiny amount of nandrolone. That is actually near the low end of the range that a female can "fail" a drug test for nandrolone. And she was tested the next month and had no nandrolone. It sounds like garbage to me. Also, shrimp is very unhealthy, even moreso than pork. If a pork burrito can single-handedley cause a failed drug test wouldn’t you think that the Mexican Olympic team would have numerous women regularly failing their out-of-competition drug tests? Or is it too stereotypical to surmise that Mexican athletes might consume more pork burritos than athletes training in Portland, OR USA?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2021 16:15:36 GMT -8
The test was an out-of-competition test. Such testing can be conducted with no or little notice. It is unclear whether she knew about it 10 hours beforehand. According to Shelby Houlihan, she ordered beef, but she received a pork burrito. Everyone she was with said that the burrito was a pork burrito. However, Shelby also said that she did not know that there could be nandrolone in pork at the time anyway. Women naturally produce nandrolone in higher (2-3 times) concentrations than men. 5 ng/ml is a tiny amount of nandrolone. That is actually near the low end of the range that a female can "fail" a drug test for nandrolone. And she was tested the next month and had no nandrolone. It sounds like garbage to me. Also, shrimp is very unhealthy, even moreso than pork. If a pork burrito can single-handedley cause a failed drug test wouldn’t you think that the Mexican Olympic team would have numerous women regularly failing their out-of-competition drug tests? Or is it too stereotypical to surmise that Mexican athletes might consume more pork burritos than athletes training in Portland, OR USA? The average American eats almost three times as much pork as the average Mexican.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 16, 2021 16:19:56 GMT -8
What kind of world class middle distance runner picks up a burrito at the local food truck? Does not pass the smell test. At all.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2021 16:23:41 GMT -8
What kind of world class middle distance runner picks up a burrito at the local food truck? Does not pass the smell test. At all. Good gif. As America's best middle-distance runner, Shelby Houlihan logs all of her food. She apparently ate at the food truck within 10 hours of the drug test.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 16, 2021 16:28:50 GMT -8
If a pork burrito can single-handedley cause a failed drug test wouldn’t you think that the Mexican Olympic team would have numerous women regularly failing their out-of-competition drug tests? Or is it too stereotypical to surmise that Mexican athletes might consume more pork burritos than athletes training in Portland, OR USA? The average American eats almost three times as much pork as the average Mexican. Olympic class athletes are not "average" Americans or Mexicans.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 16, 2021 17:01:11 GMT -8
The average American eats almost three times as much pork as the average Mexican. Olympic class athletes are not "average" Americans or Mexicans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athleticsThe first listed suspension for Nandrolone dates to 1977. In that time, not a single Mexican track athlete has been suspended/banned from testing positive for Nandrolone. So much for the Burrito alibi. CASE CLOSED.
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Post by beaver94 on Jun 16, 2021 17:05:10 GMT -8
I think they prefer the chicken.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2021 17:08:39 GMT -8
The average American eats almost three times as much pork as the average Mexican. Olympic class athletes are not "average" Americans or Mexicans. Then, I will take door #2, and we'll just call you a racist? Mexicans consume more fish than Americans on average and almost as much chicken. Pork tends to be available in smaller quantities and beef in even smaller quantities. I am more or less commenting on the availability of various types of meat in Mexico.
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