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Post by rmancarl on Jun 9, 2021 12:40:17 GMT -8
While we wait for the next big news, some thoughts from another thread made me wonder what we all think about the starting lineup this fall. Anybody want to give us your 'way too early' starting five? Will that starting five change before Pac-12 play begins? Just as a point of reference, here are the 'college games' started for the current roster:
Ellie Mack 82, Tea Adams, 81, Taya Corosdale 78, Taylor Jones 52, Emily Codding 50, Kennedy Brown 23, Jovana Subasic 8.
I can honestly say this is a WAG at a couple positions in particular, but it is my guess for game #1 this fall, until I hear updates on how summer/fall practice is going. I'm going with 4 T's and an E.
Taylor Jones
Taya Corosdale
Ellie Mack
Tea Adams
Talia Von Oelhoffen
Scrimmages this summer/fall should be a blast though:
Taylor versus Jelena and Jovana
Taya versus Kennedy
Ellie versus Emily
Talia versus Tea
Greta versus A.J.
and there will be other combinations as well.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jun 9, 2021 12:45:54 GMT -8
Good initial thoughts here. I think I would flip Greta and Tea, but Tea's experience might win out. The position battle I'm most intrigued with is Taya and KB. Taya is a 5th year senior, and has started her entire career, however, I think KB is just better. KB also can play the 5 so will see take some of Jelena's minutes. It will be interesting to see this team on the floor, because I'm not totally sure yet how it all fits.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jun 9, 2021 13:29:50 GMT -8
Way to many unknowns to have much confidence in even a wag for a couple positions. That said,
Taylor at the 5
Kennedy at the 4
Taya at the 3
Greta at the 2
Talia at the 1
Our grad transfers could definitely throw a wrench in this plan. The pac12 is a step up from where they came, hard to tell who will rise to the occasion.
Personally, I really hope we can have a season without any significant injuries. We have been bit pretty hard the last couple seasons.
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Post by gustafgg on Jun 9, 2021 16:03:48 GMT -8
Agree with Taylor, Kennedy, Taya, Greta and Talia. Tea’ will get meaningful minutes, particularly against pressing teams like AZ and UCLA. Ellie will spell both Taya and Kennedy, with Jelena taking minutes while Taylor rests or is in foul trouble. Not sure Emily will get too many minutes with this stacked deck.
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Post by beaverfever148 on Jun 9, 2021 16:08:41 GMT -8
My prediction is similar to others:
1. Talia
2. Greta
3. Taya
4. Kennedy
5. Taylor
Scott has always said he doesn’t treat freshmen like freshmen. I don’t think he’ll hesitate to put both Talia and Greta in the starting lineup, unless they’re beat out by other players.
Some variables that could change the starting lineup- Kennedy and how quickly she can be at 100%, Ellie and her continued development/confidence with one Pac-12 season under her belt, as well as Tea and Emily and how they adjust to Pac-12 play.
This could be a solid lineup for years to come, with Timea taking Taya’s place after she’s done at OSU. Excited to see how it all turns out!
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 9, 2021 19:52:59 GMT -8
Good thoughts. For those who think Taya will start at the 3, with Kennedy at 4 and Greta at 2, where do you think the scoring will come from? None of those three have ever averaged even 7 points per game. Kennedy had a poor shooting year as a freshman, and will likely be a bit rusty after having a year and a half since her last game. Greta has never played a college game. Talia could score big time if needed, but if her and Taylor are the only scoring threats it's likely her efficiency numbers will be down, and her and Taylor will draw extra coverage. Who brings that added scoring?
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Post by beaverfever148 on Jun 9, 2021 20:35:44 GMT -8
Good thoughts. For those who think Taya will start at the 3, with Kennedy at 4 and Greta at 2, where do you think the scoring will come from? None of those three have ever averaged even 7 points per game. Kennedy had a poor shooting year as a freshman, and will likely be a bit rusty after having a year and a half since her last game. Greta has never played a college game. Talia could score big time if needed, but if her and Taylor are the only scoring threats it's likely her efficiency numbers will be down, and her and Taylor will draw extra coverage. Who brings that added scoring? That’s the magic question. This is a relatively young squad with a load of newcomers, so at this point we can only give it our best shot. Players will have to step up. We could get scoring from Ellie, Tea, Emily, AJ, some from Jelena, we just don’t know yet. This team has endless possibilities! And on the starting lineup, I hope I can be proven wrong. I just think Greta will come in and be ready to go. She’s one of those players that could very well be an all-time great at OSU. We also have Talia and Taylor who can go on major scoring runs, along with Taya and Kennedy who can knock down some shots and a loaded bunch ready to go. Sounds like classic Beaver basketball to me! |
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Post by sewingbeaver on Jun 10, 2021 6:41:10 GMT -8
So impressed by all of the very positive talk on this thread. Quite the opposite of the doom and gloom from a couple of months ago. Glad you've all come around.
Great points about where the scoring is going to come from.
Starting line up: Any and all. Just READY to be BACK IN GILL!!! GO Beavs.
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Post by norm on Jun 10, 2021 8:25:09 GMT -8
Taya, Taylor, and Talia are locked in to the starting line-up. That will be from game 1 thru game 30+.
I would expect Ellie to start game 1. That may stay consistent thru the season, but Kennedy could slide into that spot when she is back to 100% game shape (conditioning, skill, pace, etc.)
The biggest question in my mind is Tea or Greta. This is going to be decided from June thru opening night. Tea has the experience, but both are brand new to the program. I think she has the inside track to start game 1, but the leash will be short. I could see this changing before the first game or shortly after.
And the top 3 or 4 off the bench are very capable and will have significant impact, regardless of starting position.
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Post by lotrader on Jun 10, 2021 9:04:03 GMT -8
I believe Kennedy will emerge as the starter in place of Ellie. Kennedy is a great rebounder, and, great defender. Kennedy will defend the opponents best BIG. This will take a massive amount of fouls away from Taylor Jones and free Taylor up considerably. If you look back at OSU's final critical games, Taya was a force on defense, guarding the opponents best player (Haley Jones, Michele Onenywere, etc.) and nearly shutting them down. We will have the best defensive front court in the PAC-12 next season. It will be exciting. The question marks are the guard/wing rotation. Hopefully we have a preseason so Rueck can sort this out by the time PAC-12 season begins.
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Post by escott58 on Jun 10, 2021 9:07:52 GMT -8
Looking forward to a good, long pre-season to watch everyone play. There are a lot of unknowns, so our pre-conceived notions may get upset or turned up-side-down.
Some lingering questions for me:
- How will Jovana compete after getting healed up?
- Emily is also healing from injuries and could make an impact
- AJ's highlight videos were pretty amazing - how will she translate to college?
- My favorite, but probably won't happen: Andrea (enter stinging eyes and prayers for her health)
Have we ever had so much depth?
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Post by wbosh15 on Jun 10, 2021 9:09:31 GMT -8
The more I think about it, the more interested I am to how Scott will see things shaking out between Taya and KB. I think KB will just be too valuable defensively to keep off the floor, and I think her shooting will be improved. I will say if we are fully healthy, we should be much less concerned with fouls, because KB, Taya and Mack can all play the 4 and play it well, and TJ, KB, Jelena and Subasic can all play the 5. That's a lot of fouls to play with in the frontcourt.
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Post by beaverstever on Jun 10, 2021 9:19:07 GMT -8
IMO, if Kennedy decided to focus on being a 4 instead of a 3, she'd be a much bigger scoring threat than she was her frosh year. She could be a twin-tower interior force with Jones, but has wanted to play too far away from the basket and shoot 3s. I'm hoping the time off has helped her see/re-think where she can make the biggest impact. If she could bring a regular 10 pts of interior scoring per game, then that plus what Talia and Jones bring as a scoring punch is already enough offense to win a lot go games (especially with what Kennedy does for our defense).
This team doesn't have any 'take over a game' scoring threats, but they have a lot of options that should all be efficient with their scoring opportunities. That combined with a solid group of defenders that should be a much better defensive rebounding team with Kennedy and Greta, this feels like a roster that Rueck knows how to win with.
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 10, 2021 9:53:59 GMT -8
Taya, Taylor, and Talia are locked in to the starting line-up. That will be from game 1 thru game 30+. I would expect Ellie to start game 1. That may stay consistent thru the season, but Kennedy could slide into that spot when she is back to 100% game shape (conditioning, skill, pace, etc.) The biggest question in my mind is Tea or Greta. This is going to be decided from June thru opening night. Tea has the experience, but both are brand new to the program. I think she has the inside track to start game 1, but the leash will be short. I could see this changing before the first game or shortly after. And the top 3 or 4 off the bench are very capable and will have significant impact, regardless of starting position. Norm, I think your thoughts are most consistent with mine overall. I started this thread even though normally I'm not that concerned about who starts, but rather who gets minutes, and who is playing during critical minutes of the game. Last season Talia didn't start, but it felt like she did. After having watched most of the last several games, Talia entered most of the games right around 4 minutes into the game. I'm thinking Tea has the inside track because of her experience and consistency, but expect Greta (or A.J.) to play big minutes, with a good chance to start by Pac-12 play. I expect it may take Kennedy much of the season to regain her conditioning and get used to the pace of the game again. I sure wouldn't discount her as a starter, I just don't expect it day 1. Either way, all of these players will probably deserve more minutes than are actually available to them. There is just too much talent that is fairly equal. I think the one player who may surprise us all may be Emily. If she comes in fully recovered (and as similar to Kennedy, not too rusty), her game may demand minutes. The question with her will be how well she can play with well over a year without much game play. I'm not sure there has ever been a year where there are this many players who could help at big moments. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 10, 2021 10:02:55 GMT -8
IMO, if Kennedy decided to focus on being a 4 instead of a 3, she'd be a much bigger scoring threat than she was her frosh year. She could be a twin-tower interior force with Jones, but has wanted to play too far away from the basket and shoot 3s. I'm hoping the time off has helped her see/re-think where she can make the biggest impact. If she could bring a regular 10 pts of interior scoring per game, then that plus what Talia and Jones bring as a scoring punch is already enough offense to win a lot go games (especially with what Kennedy does for our defense). This team doesn't have any 'take over a game' scoring threats, but they have a lot of options that should all be efficient with their scoring opportunities. That combined with a solid group of defenders that should be a much better defensive rebounding team with Kennedy and Greta, this feels like a roster that Rueck knows how to win with. "team doesn't have any 'take over a game' scoring threats..." (except possibly Talia - we have yet to see what she'll bring as a 'veteran' Freshman). |
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