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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 7, 2021 8:48:22 GMT -8
Why did Washburn get pulled after 3? Coaching wants to get guys innings? Or save Washburn for this weekend? I get it, but gotta win the game we are playing too.
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Post by billsaab on Apr 7, 2021 9:13:16 GMT -8
It seems we messed up in first inning.Their pitcher settled down. 14 Strike Outs is ridiculous. So many guys look lost at the plate. Not thrilled with The play own the line as ball should have been caught. The ball to right field also should have been caught. Losing to Gonzaga is not the problem. The way we played is the problem. I guess coaching is torn in the outfield. Not happy how it is going. We need to play well with consistency every game. As noted some pitchers are getting hit.
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 7, 2021 10:00:25 GMT -8
As far as the first inning, AA totally smoked that double play ball down the line. Very nice play by the Zags 3B. It happens. The next 8 innings sucked at the plate.
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Post by scythe on Apr 7, 2021 10:11:53 GMT -8
I would say we lost the game by only scoring 2 runs against them. I thought we, Oregon State fans, had a long tradition of blaming the umps and refs for any and all losses. 🤣 I’ve never believed in blaming umps and refs for a loss. This game was ugly, but that happens now and then. It’s baseball. It is better to have these types of games now than the end of May. I do like the way MC is moving guys around defensively. I like to think this is because he knows he will need multi-position players come tournament time. Blaming umps and refs for losses is what duck fans do. I’ve heard it all and way too often.
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 7, 2021 10:13:50 GMT -8
Why did Washburn get pulled after 3? Coaching wants to get guys innings? Or save Washburn for this weekend? I get it, but gotta win the game we are playing too. Washburn threw 69 pitches against Utah last Thursday. By pulling him, it makes him available for a relief appearance on Saturday or Sunday.
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Post by messi on Apr 7, 2021 10:14:14 GMT -8
One item that appears to be missing during the first inning discussion, is the at bat before Armstrong's. Casey came to the plate with the bases loaded and no outs, and failed to get the ball in play.
I've seen many times, not only to the Beavers, but a rally in baseball that seems to die before the final out of the inning is recorded. A runner on third with less than two outs, the batter fails to bring the run home. Sure, the inning isn't over, but that sense of getting the out can many times settle a pitcher down. Or the lead hitter gets on base, or two are on, and the batter at the plate fails to advance the runner(s). The inning isn't over, there is still another at bat, but it felt that has deflated the situation. The worst thing to do, when the opposing pitcher is on the ropes, is to give him the sense of, 'I got this', even if its only the first out of the inning.
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 10:20:45 GMT -8
I thought we, Oregon State fans, had a long tradition of blaming the umps and refs for any and all losses. 🤣 I’ve never believed in blaming umps and refs for a loss. This game was ugly, but that happens now and then. It’s baseball. It is better to have these types of games now than the end of May. I do like the way MC is moving guys around defensively. I like to think this is because he knows he will need multi-position players come tournament time. Blaming umps and refs for losses is what duck fans do. I’ve heard it all and way too often. Of course, I was being facetious. But don’t ask what Beaver fans think of Mr. Street. Or the crew at UW for the football game....Or the replay crew....and so on....
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 7, 2021 10:27:00 GMT -8
One item that appears to be missing during the first inning discussion, is the at bat before Armstrong's. Casey came to the plate with the bases loaded and no outs, and failed to get the ball in play. I've seen many times, not only to the Beavers, but a rally in baseball that seems to die before the final out of the inning is recorded. A runner on third with less than two outs, the batter fails to bring the run home. Sure, the inning isn't over, but that sense of getting the out can many times settle a pitcher down. Or the lead hitter gets on base, or two are on, and the batter at the plate fails to advance the runner(s). The inning isn't over, there is still another at bat, but it felt that has deflated the situation. The worst thing to do, when the opposing pitcher is on the ropes, is to give him the sense of, 'I got this', even if its only the first out of the inning. That at bat did hurt. Ouch.
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 10:28:29 GMT -8
One item that appears to be missing during the first inning discussion, is the at bat before Armstrong's. Casey came to the plate with the bases loaded and no outs, and failed to get the ball in play. I've seen many times, not only to the Beavers, but a rally in baseball that seems to die before the final out of the inning is recorded. A runner on third with less than two outs, the batter fails to bring the run home. Sure, the inning isn't over, but that sense of getting the out can many times settle a pitcher down. Or the lead hitter gets on base, or two are on, and the batter at the plate fails to advance the runner(s). The inning isn't over, there is still another at bat, but it felt that has deflated the situation. The worst thing to do, when the opposing pitcher is on the ropes, is to give him the sense of, 'I got this', even if its only the first out of the inning. It’s crazy how often Casey has struck out this year. 36 strikeouts and 8 walks in 96 at bats. I wonder if he needs to see an optometrist.
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Post by messi on Apr 7, 2021 10:38:42 GMT -8
One item that appears to be missing during the first inning discussion, is the at bat before Armstrong's. Casey came to the plate with the bases loaded and no outs, and failed to get the ball in play. I've seen many times, not only to the Beavers, but a rally in baseball that seems to die before the final out of the inning is recorded. A runner on third with less than two outs, the batter fails to bring the run home. Sure, the inning isn't over, but that sense of getting the out can many times settle a pitcher down. Or the lead hitter gets on base, or two are on, and the batter at the plate fails to advance the runner(s). The inning isn't over, there is still another at bat, but it felt that has deflated the situation. The worst thing to do, when the opposing pitcher is on the ropes, is to give him the sense of, 'I got this', even if its only the first out of the inning. It’s crazy how often Casey has struck out this year. 36 strikeouts and 8 walks in 96 at bats. I wonder if he needs to see an optometrist. That's insane, a guy with a 37.5% strikeout rate still seeing regular playing time. Jones is the next highest just under 30%, everyone else is roughly 20-25%.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Apr 7, 2021 11:11:47 GMT -8
My take on Joe Casey’s play in left field. Listening to Mike Parker and he said Joe’s two brothers were in the stands and he also figured that Pat Casey had to be at the game as well but he hadn’t figured out where he was watching from. So Joe makes a valiant effort to catch the fly ball and overruns into Jacoby clubhouse.....that’s where Pat is watching from and there’s a little father-son discussion going on with what just happened....Joe says it’s a foul but Pat says fair ....a little more father and son argument and waaalllaaaaa inside the park home run
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Post by rainmanrich on Apr 7, 2021 11:43:19 GMT -8
My take on Joe Casey’s play in left field. Listening to Mike Parker and he said Joe’s two brothers were in the stands and he also figured that Pat Casey had to be at the game as well but he hadn’t figured out where he was watching from. So Joe makes a valiant effort to catch the fly ball and overruns into Jacoby clubhouse.....that’s where Pat is watching from and there’s a little father-son discussion going on with what just happened....Joe says it’s a foul but Pat says fair ....a little more father and son argument and waaalllaaaaa inside the park home run Good one. But I believe Pat was dicussing a strikeout in the first inning.
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 7, 2021 12:30:24 GMT -8
One item that appears to be missing during the first inning discussion, is the at bat before Armstrong's. Casey came to the plate with the bases loaded and no outs, and failed to get the ball in play. I've seen many times, not only to the Beavers, but a rally in baseball that seems to die before the final out of the inning is recorded. A runner on third with less than two outs, the batter fails to bring the run home. Sure, the inning isn't over, but that sense of getting the out can many times settle a pitcher down. Or the lead hitter gets on base, or two are on, and the batter at the plate fails to advance the runner(s). The inning isn't over, there is still another at bat, but it felt that has deflated the situation. The worst thing to do, when the opposing pitcher is on the ropes, is to give him the sense of, 'I got this', even if its only the first out of the inning. I'm telling my wife, "if they don't have Casey bunt, run a squeeze, it's not going to be pretty". When you have a guy that has more strike outs than hits, a ton of speed, and no outs in the inning with the bases loaded - a bunt down the 1st base line plates a run most of the time.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 7, 2021 12:35:21 GMT -8
It’s crazy how often Casey has struck out this year. 36 strikeouts and 8 walks in 96 at bats. I wonder if he needs to see an optometrist. That's insane, a guy with a 37.5% strikeout rate still seeing regular playing time. Jones is the next highest just under 30%, everyone else is roughly 20-25%. RBI and HR totals be damned. Casey, with the exception of a hot start, has been a 2021 disaster in the batting order. Prior to this season his combined SO rate was 29%. Prior to this season he had 1.9 SO for every BB. That has regressed this season to a 37.5% SO rate and a whopping 4.5 SO for every BB. He's become an opposing pitcher dream, especially if that pitcher is on the ropes. He stands a hideous 16th on the Beaver squad in OBP. And yet he is 3rd on the team in AB's ('helped' by the fact that he has walked only 8 times this season, hence almost all of his plate appearances become official AB's.)
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 12:46:49 GMT -8
My take on Joe Casey’s play in left field. Listening to Mike Parker and he said Joe’s two brothers were in the stands and he also figured that Pat Casey had to be at the game as well but he hadn’t figured out where he was watching from. So Joe makes a valiant effort to catch the fly ball and overruns into Jacoby clubhouse.....that’s where Pat is watching from and there’s a little father-son discussion going on with what just happened....Joe says it’s a foul but Pat says fair ....a little more father and son argument and waaalllaaaaa inside the park home run Good one. But I believe Pat was dicussing a strikeout in the first inning. Pat wasn’t discussing loud enough apparently. 2 more strikeouts to follow. LOL
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