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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 6, 2021 19:48:40 GMT -8
I am surprised we only have 2 errors. Seems like more Because both dropped fly balls were scored as hits. They were errors. And the grounder they charged Dukart an error on should have been a base hit. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 6, 2021 19:49:51 GMT -8
That was a sad game.
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Post by irimi on Apr 6, 2021 19:50:43 GMT -8
I am surprised we only have 2 errors. Seems like more Because both dropped fly balls were scored as hits. They were errors. And the grounder they charged Dukart an error on should have been a base hit. Respectfully disagree on the Dukart error. He really should've made a better throw. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 6, 2021 19:50:48 GMT -8
It doesn't matter where Casey was. It matters where the ball was. Henry you are correct. In this particular play the ball and Casey where both in fair territory. The fans at Banners saw it differently. At least the sober ones.  |
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Apr 6, 2021 20:40:53 GMT -8
I was gonna call it a hot mess. OSU really struggles defensively in OF without Preston, who gets great jumps, takes straight-line routes to the ball, and has closing speed. And maybe most importantly, he takes charge. Kyler is a really good hitter, and I believe was recruited IF with his first action at 2B. He has good speed, but he does not do the other things that make a defensive outfielder good. He had 2 big misplays in this game including not calling off Ober, who was zig-Zagging backward (sorry, pun had to happen). Joe I think of as OSU's 2nd best defensive OF, and I still "think" the ball was foul when Joe touched it, but the replay was terrible because the camera operator felt the need to follow Dukart. We might never know what happened in the clubhouse, but I totally understand Joe running full speed choosing to slow down through the open door instead of running into a brick wall. I'm going to believe that Joe knows for a fact the ball was foul when he touched it, and baseball is a sport players are not conditioned to "play to the whistle." Whether he slipped inside the clubhouse or just took out his frustration on a wall might be a fun story to hear at a tailgater years from now, but it was a strange enough play I suspect many versions of "the truth" will come out. So what does this mean for the season? In 2005, OSU lost to Gonzaga 3-1 and won the Pac 10 before going to the CWS. In 2006, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before winning the Pac 10 and CWS. In 2007, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before barely making the regionals and winning the CWS. Fast forward to 2017, OSU had one of the top winning seasons in college baseball history to make the CWS, but forgot to schedule Gonzaga, and lost in the CWS. In 2018, OSU played Gonzaga once in a tight 4-3 win, and went on the win the CWS. Baseball is a funny sport, and I think playing Gonzaga in a tight game or series, win or lose, is a good thing ;-P |
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 5:51:52 GMT -8
Replay just showed that was a fair ball. Casey touched while still between the foul lines. It doesn't matter where Casey was. It matters where the ball was. Actually, it doesn’t matter where Casey was or where the ball was. It matters what the umpire signals. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 6:03:16 GMT -8
I was gonna call it a hot mess. OSU really struggles defensively in OF without Preston, who gets great jumps, takes straight-line routes to the ball, and has closing speed. And maybe most importantly, he takes charge. Kyler is a really good hitter, and I believe was recruited IF with his first action at 2B. He has good speed, but he does not do the other things that make a defensive outfielder good. He had 2 big misplays in this game including not calling off Ober, who was zig-Zagging backward (sorry, pun had to happen). Joe I think of as OSU's 2nd best defensive OF, and I still "think" the ball was foul when Joe touched it, but the replay was terrible because the camera operator felt the need to follow Dukart. We might never know what happened in the clubhouse, but I totally understand Joe running full speed choosing to slow down through the open door instead of running into a brick wall. I'm going to believe that Joe knows for a fact the ball was foul when he touched it, and baseball is a sport players are not conditioned to "play to the whistle." Whether he slipped inside the clubhouse or just took out his frustration on a wall might be a fun story to hear at a tailgater years from now, but it was a strange enough play I suspect many versions of "the truth" will come out. So what does this mean for the season? In 2005, OSU lost to Gonzaga 3-1 and won the Pac 10 before going to the CWS. In 2006, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before winning the Pac 10 and CWS. In 2007, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before barely making the regionals and winning the CWS. Fast forward to 2017, OSU had one of the top winning seasons in college baseball history to make the CWS, but forgot to schedule Gonzaga, and lost in the CWS. In 2018, OSU played Gonzaga once in a tight 4-3 win, and went on the win the CWS. Baseball is a funny sport, and I think playing Gonzaga in a tight game or series, win or lose, is a good thing ;-P I’m not very concerned about the Casey gaffe. It was a borderline fair/foul ball that he tried to make a play on. Whatever happened after he disappeared is anyone’s guess for now. I’m sure Casey will explain. But that kind of play is an aberration. It doesn’t happen often enough to be concerned with. Ober’s “drop” also was a freak play, but a little more concerning. Over made the catch, in my opinion, and then lost the ball on the switch to his throwing hand. But these plays didn’t cost us the game. The failure to put away the starting pitcher in the first inning when we had him on the ropes really did that. And for him to come back and dominate us after such a shaky start was impressive for the kid. We struck out far too often to a pitcher that entered the game with an ERA north of 7. This weekend against the Ducks will be a very telling series. In some ways, I’m glad all this happened before the series, but I was really hoping that we’d be going into the series riding high. Either way, FTD! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 7, 2021 6:39:13 GMT -8
It doesn't matter where Casey was. It matters where the ball was. Actually, it doesn’t matter where Casey was or where the ball was. It matters what the umpire signals. Which (supposedly) is determined by where the ball is when it's touched. |
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Post by badwack on Apr 7, 2021 6:40:38 GMT -8
Does Covid cause a strike out infection? Makes me crazy watching hitter after hitter not making contact with runners on. Meanwhile, GU seem to always have runner on, moving easily to second and then the normal single up the middle. No magic just doing what should be done. Meanwhile we are mostly swinging like hell missing the baseball.
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 6:51:06 GMT -8
Does Covid cause a strike out infection? Makes me crazy watching hitter after hitter not making contact with runners on. Meanwhile, GU seem to always have runner on, moving easily to second and then the normal single up the middle. No magic just doing what should be done. Meanwhile we are mostly swinging like hell missing the baseball. Hunter, Burns, and Mundt combined to pitch for 3.1 innings and struck out nobody. They faced 23 batters over those 3.1 innings. Washburn gave us a good start. Salgado stopped the bleeding. And Jake did his thing. We lost the game in the middle. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 7, 2021 6:56:39 GMT -8
Does Covid cause a strike out infection? Makes me crazy watching hitter after hitter not making contact with runners on. Meanwhile, GU seem to always have runner on, moving easily to second and then the normal single up the middle. No magic just doing what should be done. Meanwhile we are mostly swinging like hell missing the baseball. Hunter, Burns, and Mundt combined to pitch for 3.1 innings and struck out nobody. They faced 23 batters over those 3.1 innings. Washburn gave us a good start. Salgado stopped the bleeding. And Jake did his thing. We lost the game in the middle. I would say we lost the game by only scoring 2 runs against them. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 7, 2021 7:20:06 GMT -8
I was gonna call it a hot mess. OSU really struggles defensively in OF without Preston, who gets great jumps, takes straight-line routes to the ball, and has closing speed. And maybe most importantly, he takes charge. Kyler is a really good hitter, and I believe was recruited IF with his first action at 2B. He has good speed, but he does not do the other things that make a defensive outfielder good. He had 2 big misplays in this game including not calling off Ober, who was zig-Zagging backward (sorry, pun had to happen). Joe I think of as OSU's 2nd best defensive OF, and I still "think" the ball was foul when Joe touched it, but the replay was terrible because the camera operator felt the need to follow Dukart. We might never know what happened in the clubhouse, but I totally understand Joe running full speed choosing to slow down through the open door instead of running into a brick wall. I'm going to believe that Joe knows for a fact the ball was foul when he touched it, and baseball is a sport players are not conditioned to "play to the whistle." Whether he slipped inside the clubhouse or just took out his frustration on a wall might be a fun story to hear at a tailgater years from now, but it was a strange enough play I suspect many versions of "the truth" will come out. So what does this mean for the season? In 2005, OSU lost to Gonzaga 3-1 and won the Pac 10 before going to the CWS. In 2006, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before winning the Pac 10 and CWS. In 2007, OSU lost to Gonzaga 6-5 before barely making the regionals and winning the CWS. Fast forward to 2017, OSU had one of the top winning seasons in college baseball history to make the CWS, but forgot to schedule Gonzaga, and lost in the CWS. In 2018, OSU played Gonzaga once in a tight 4-3 win, and went on the win the CWS. Baseball is a funny sport, and I think playing Gonzaga in a tight game or series, win or lose, is a good thing ;-P I’m not very concerned about the Casey gaffe. It was a borderline fair/foul ball that he tried to make a play on. Whatever happened after he disappeared is anyone’s guess for now. I’m sure Casey will explain. But that kind of play is an aberration. It doesn’t happen often enough to be concerned with. Ober’s “drop” also was a freak play, but a little more concerning. Over made the catch, in my opinion, and then lost the ball on the switch to his throwing hand. But these plays didn’t cost us the game. The failure to put away the starting pitcher in the first inning when we had him on the ropes really did that. And for him to come back and dominate us after such a shaky start was impressive for the kid. We struck out far too often to a pitcher that entered the game with an ERA north of 7. This weekend against the Ducks will be a very telling series. In some ways, I’m glad all this happened before the series, but I was really hoping that we’d be going into the series riding high. Either way, FTD! I'll agree with the final sentiment. FTD! Gonzaga is a quality opponent, though, so some perspective is in order. Gonzaga beat New Mexico and outscored Kansas State down in Surprise, they split with Dallas Baptist in Dallas, they outscored Texas Tech (RPI 19) in Lubbock, they took the series against TCU (RPI 13) in Fort Worth and they beat Washington in a midweek game. The only opponent that Gonzaga has not outscored on the season so far is Oregon State. Nico Zeglin struggled in the trips to Fort Worth and Lubbock. Otherwise, he has wins against Dallas Baptist and Washington and an ERA just north of three. Washington did even worse against Zeglin than Oregon state did with fewer hits and more strikeouts. If you completely remove the games in Texas, Zeglin has only allowed two runs on the season, one to Washington and one to Oregon State with an ERA just north of one. Moreover, of the opponents on Oregon State's schedule this year, the opponents with the highest RPI are: Arizona (4), Oregon (12) and Gonzaga (24). The Zags are no pushovers and to take two-of-three against them is a feather in Oregon State's cap. Otherwise, I will agree. Too many strikeouts on offense and not enough strikeouts from Oregon State pitchers. Oregon State hitters struck out 14 times and Gonzaga hitters only struck out 7 times. That needs to basically flip, in order for Oregon State to be successful this weekend. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 7:33:18 GMT -8
I’m not very concerned about the Casey gaffe. It was a borderline fair/foul ball that he tried to make a play on. Whatever happened after he disappeared is anyone’s guess for now. I’m sure Casey will explain. But that kind of play is an aberration. It doesn’t happen often enough to be concerned with. Ober’s “drop” also was a freak play, but a little more concerning. Over made the catch, in my opinion, and then lost the ball on the switch to his throwing hand. But these plays didn’t cost us the game. The failure to put away the starting pitcher in the first inning when we had him on the ropes really did that. And for him to come back and dominate us after such a shaky start was impressive for the kid. We struck out far too often to a pitcher that entered the game with an ERA north of 7. This weekend against the Ducks will be a very telling series. In some ways, I’m glad all this happened before the series, but I was really hoping that we’d be going into the series riding high. Either way, FTD! I'll agree with the final sentiment. FTD! Gonzaga is a quality opponent, though, so some perspective is in order. Gonzaga beat New Mexico and outscored Kansas State down in Surprise, they split with Dallas Baptist in Dallas, they outscored Texas Tech (RPI 19) in Lubbock, they took the series against TCU (RPI 13) in Fort Worth and they beat Washington in a midweek game. The only opponent that Gonzaga has not outscored on the season so far is Oregon State. Nico Zeglin struggled in the trips to Fort Worth and Lubbock. Otherwise, he has wins against Dallas Baptist and Washington and an ERA just north of three. Washington did even worse against Zeglin than Oregon state did with fewer hits and more strikeouts. If you completely remove the games in Texas, Zeglin has only allowed two runs on the season, one to Washington and one to Oregon State with an ERA just north of one. Moreover, of the opponents on Oregon State's schedule this year, the opponents with the highest RPI are: Arizona (4), Oregon (12) and Gonzaga (24). The Zags are no pushovers and to take two-of-three against them is a feather in Oregon State's cap. Otherwise, I will agree. Too many strikeouts on offense and not enough strikeouts from Oregon State pitchers. Oregon State hitters struck out 14 times and Gonzaga hitters only struck out 7 times. That needs to basically flip, in order for Oregon State to be successful this weekend. Seems like you agreed with a lot more than just my final sentiment. LOL |
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Post by irimi on Apr 7, 2021 7:37:03 GMT -8
Hunter, Burns, and Mundt combined to pitch for 3.1 innings and struck out nobody. They faced 23 batters over those 3.1 innings. Washburn gave us a good start. Salgado stopped the bleeding. And Jake did his thing. We lost the game in the middle. I would say we lost the game by only scoring 2 runs against them. I thought we, Oregon State fans, had a long tradition of blaming the umps and refs for any and all losses. 🤣 |
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Post by shelby on Apr 7, 2021 8:08:19 GMT -8
Burns has not looked good so far this season ! Cannot throw strikes , and when he does- the ball is not getting by the hitters !
Last night , he came in at a bad time and proceeded to make it worse !
Munda and Salgado did their part !
However, as stated previously, the fact that we did not plate more funs in the first ... cost us !
Also, I am not a big fan of the guys not using both the glove and the opposing hand to make the catch. Yes, I know it looks Little League- however, what looks worse is not catching the ball !
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