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Post by shelby on Nov 8, 2021 9:19:33 GMT -8
Anyone but CTT and it might be believable and require some action . She may get fined by the PAC 12 if there is nothing to it - so she is taking a big risk !
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Post by billthebeav on Nov 8, 2021 9:23:21 GMT -8
Anyone but CTT and it might be believable and require some action . She may get fined by the PAC 12 if there is nothing to it - so she is taking a big risk ! I don’t know what they would fine her for, she doesn’t name names and doesn’t even say that it’s going on in the PAC-12.
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Post by shelby on Nov 8, 2021 9:50:59 GMT -8
At some point , the 'claim' will have to be either substantiated with facts or called a mis- statement. Different topic , but similar situation with Aaron Rodgers .
Also , remember the kerfuffle with USC women, a few years ago, that started with some 'claims' , and ended up being dismissed as one fan. That one went on 'forever' . I will look it up again. In today's world , everything you say or do ( and every photo ), is up for discussion and misrepresentation . If she knows something , the PAC 12 will want to know , so it does not blow up in their face later and to allow the non offending teams to get out from under the cloud of suspicion. If you want to stop this type of activity , it has to be brought out into the open ! A fine would come into play if it was a false report that harmed the reputation of the PAC 12 or any other coach.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Nov 8, 2021 11:06:39 GMT -8
I would be shocked if there isn't tampering going on. I've suspected as much for years.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 8, 2021 11:51:44 GMT -8
Anyone but CTT and it might be believable and require some action . She may get fined by the PAC 12 if there is nothing to it - so she is taking a big risk ! I think CTT is very sensitive to her cross-state rival who in a couple of seasons have completely eclipsed her program. Is that what she's referring to here? Who knows? Who has transferred within conference in the last couple years? uo with Minyon Moore and Endiya Rogers (both from SC) ASU Aari McDonald (from UW) Who else?
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Post by shelby on Nov 8, 2021 12:04:56 GMT -8
I agree with The Who knows ? The implications and rumors will have to be sorted out. She is either ; 1) Making an unsupported statement in order to cover ( in advance ), for Potential poor performance for this year, or 2) She has the goods on a specific program that is not playing within the rules versus other PAC 12 programs ! If that is the case. She cannot keep it quiet - or it will grow it’s own arms and legs and bring the whole PAC 12 down. If she has ACTUAL PROOF, she needs to come forward!, or 3) She has heard rumors from others, but has no proof Either way, she needs to set the record straight now
My personal approach has always been proactive. That means’ don’t wait and see what happens’- fix it before it becomes an unmanageable problem ‘ . In business, no one likes Surprises. Surprises attack your resources, your time and your finances ….and your planning! And, college sports are a business !
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Post by nwhoopfan on Nov 8, 2021 12:32:59 GMT -8
Anyone but CTT and it might be believable and require some action . She may get fined by the PAC 12 if there is nothing to it - so she is taking a big risk ! I think CTT is very sensitive to her cross-state rival who in a couple of seasons have completely eclipsed her program. Is that what she's referring to here? Who knows? Who has transferred within conference in the last couple years? uo with Minyon Moore and Endiya Rogers (both from SC) ASU Aari McDonald (from UW) Who else? Quay Miller and Tameiya Sadler UW>Colorado.
Ja'tavia Tapley USC>ASU.
Jovana Subasic WSU>OSU.
McDonald was UA, not ASU.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 8, 2021 12:33:12 GMT -8
I agree with The Who knows ? The implications and rumors will have to be sorted out. She is either ; 1) Making an unsupported statement in order to cover ( in advance ), for Potential poor performance for this year, or 2) She has the goods on a specific program that is not playing within the rules versus other PAC 12 programs ! If that is the case. She cannot keep it quiet - or it will grow it’s own arms and legs and bring the whole PAC 12 down. If she has ACTUAL PROOF, she needs to come forward!, or 3) She has heard rumors from others, but has no proof Either way, she needs to set the record straight now My personal approach has always been proactive. That means’ don’t wait and see what happens’- fix it before it becomes an unmanageable problem ‘ . In business, no one likes Surprises. Surprises attack your resources, your time and your finances ….and your planning! And, college sports are a business ! What would you say were her most concerning allegations? I only listened to it once and it seemed to me she was speaking in very broad terms. I don’t think she even specifically said anything about it happening in this conference.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Nov 8, 2021 12:35:55 GMT -8
If you make a specific allegation, you probably better have proof. Proving it might be difficult. Probably a lot of back channel communication would go on, not so much Coach X contacting Player Y directly.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 8, 2021 12:37:26 GMT -8
I think CTT is very sensitive to her cross-state rival who in a couple of seasons have completely eclipsed her program. Is that what she's referring to here? Who knows? Who has transferred within conference in the last couple years? uo with Minyon Moore and Endiya Rogers (both from SC) ASU Aari McDonald (from UW) Who else? Quay Miller and Tameiya Sadler UW>Colorado.
Ja'tavia Tapley USC>ASU.
Jovana Subasic WSU>OSU.
McDonald was UA, not ASU.
I’ve got to say I’m in favor of free movement for players when their coach leaves or is fired. I’m glad they don’t have to sit out a year.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 8, 2021 12:38:03 GMT -8
If you make a specific allegation, you probably better have proof. Proving it might be difficult. Probably a lot of back channel communication would go on, not so much Coach X contacting Player Y directly. But if you listen to what she said I don’t believe she made any specific allegations.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Nov 8, 2021 12:42:27 GMT -8
It sounds like ctt is just whining to me. That is what she does when things don't go her way. She has done it plenty in the past and for some reason always gets a pass from the pac 12 when other coaches would at least get a very public warning.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Nov 8, 2021 12:42:54 GMT -8
If you make a specific allegation, you probably better have proof. Proving it might be difficult. Probably a lot of back channel communication would go on, not so much Coach X contacting Player Y directly. But if you listen to what she said I don’t believe she made any specific allegations. Exactly. It was a vague comment, she didn't accuse anyone in particular.
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Post by beaveragain on Nov 8, 2021 13:06:39 GMT -8
CTT wasn't being vague at all. She mentioned UV specifically and then mentioned coaches recruiting players during the season. I think if she knew anything about a Pac-12 coach she would have said it.
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Post by shelby on Nov 8, 2021 13:08:41 GMT -8
But, she ‘implied’ she was aware of some funny business . That is EXACTLY , how things get rolling !
The USC situation versus WBB @ Gill , started with OSU players making racist comments ( Minyon Moore , et al ). By the time it HAD to be investigated, and the facts came out - it was ONE FAN that was doing so, and they were banned from all future attendance ! NONE of our players were involved , but …
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