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Post by 411500 on Jun 7, 2021 21:02:25 GMT -8
I think I'm gonna ask you what's on your mind more often!! I appreciate your ideas, your insight and your information.....Lots to think about....... GO BEAVS!!
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 8, 2021 20:26:30 GMT -8
rmancarl: Your comments are usually spot on, but I'm having trouble making sense out of the last sentence in your post: "The Beavs have their work cut out for them, but their transfers may put the Beavs in the hunt for top 3 as well."Not really sure which transfers you think will genuinely strengthen next year's team. Seems to me a good chance exists that none of them will even be starters.... I know you have something in mind, wanna help me out with this?? Thanks.... GO BEAVS!! 411500, to clarify, the "transfers" are just a peice of the puzzle. For the Beavs to finish top 3, I think most of the following needs to happen: Taylor needs to play more minutes and/or Jelena needs continued improvement. ( I think this is likely to happen). Taya needs to play/shoot like she did in the final 6 games of last year (10-21 from 3) and/or Kennedy needs to return healthy and not rusty. (I don't have as much faith in this one). Ellie needs to show continued improvement and/or Emily C needs play as she did two years ago. ( I think one of these is likely to happen) Talia needs to play point with close to the same efficiency as Aleah did. I said efficiency, not production. Someone (AJ, Tea, Greta...) need to provide strong 2 guard play with the ability to provide offensive production. (not sure how I am leaning on this one). Of course there is a lot more than what I mentioned, but that's enough of my thoughts. Let me explain how I feel about the transfers. Tea has 81 starts and has been remarkably consitent averaging between 9 and 11 points each of the last 3 seasons. My guess is that she will provide solid backup minutes to Talia, and some minutes at the 2 spot. I really like Emily's game if she can return healthy without showing rustiness. Her stats are so Mik like. Her stats in 2019/2020 before getting injured: 14.5ppg, 8.4rpg, 53.1%fg and 37.5 % from 3. I'm high on her game and believe she could be a difference maker in how the coming season goes for the Beavs. Truth is, I'm not sure I could even guess correctly on who the starters will be this year, but I do beleive the team may be deeper than I ever remember. There is a really good thread on the recruiting board (espnw rankings) regarding the accuracy of high school girls rankings. I doubt we would all agree on ranking the best players at OSU right now, and I doubt we would all agree on who the starters will be. That's how difficult player ranking is. By the way, if you read my thoughts on Talia in that thread, just know, I completely disagree with myself now. That's all pretty much my thoughts also. But for more specifics. Taylor needs to stay out of foul trouble. When she's playing she's one of the top 5 posts in the country, but she needs to stay in the game. Jelena needs to learn how to use her size. Boston was pushing her around way to easily. Taya and Ellie just need to get a few more rebounds and a couple of more points between them and the front line would be great. Brown just needs to work on getting herself back into the game, not stressing (yeah, I'm not too good at that myself). I would be very surprised if Greta wasn't the 2. I think she's going to be a better rebounder than Sasha but without her driving abilities. What her shooting % will be is a bit of a mystery, but I suspect she will end up better than Sasha's freshman season. Sasha's game is more complex, but when she gets it down she will be a nightmare to defend. Greta's game is more classic jump shots etc. Easier to do but you still have to do it at the college speed. Talia is already a better rebounder than Aleah but the rest of her game is in development compared to her. She will be amazing eventually, but will that be next season?
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Post by bvrbooster on Jun 8, 2021 20:50:04 GMT -8
In fairness to Sasha, she didn't have a 13 or 14 game preseason schedule to get into a comfort zone in college basketball, but was pretty much thrown right into PAC 12 play. Greta will have that, and it makes a huge difference. So I think any comparison of Sasha's first year numbers to Greta's will be apples and oranges.
Brown pressed too much trying to score before she was hurt, so, yes, she needs to let the offense come to her. I'm very hopeful that 2 years in the system will provide her the basketball maturity to go with that.
Talia is a better distributor of the ball than Aleah was; her overall game will surpass Aleah's within 2 years. Aleah got a tremendous amount out of her skill set, but she is not basically as naturally talented as Talia.
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Post by scottybooks on Jun 9, 2021 12:00:07 GMT -8
411500, to clarify, the "transfers" are just a peice of the puzzle. For the Beavs to finish top 3, I think most of the following needs to happen: Taylor needs to play more minutes and/or Jelena needs continued improvement. ( I think this is likely to happen). Taya needs to play/shoot like she did in the final 6 games of last year (10-21 from 3) and/or Kennedy needs to return healthy and not rusty. (I don't have as much faith in this one). Ellie needs to show continued improvement and/or Emily C needs play as she did two years ago. ( I think one of these is likely to happen) Talia needs to play point with close to the same efficiency as Aleah did. I said efficiency, not production. Someone (AJ, Tea, Greta...) need to provide strong 2 guard play with the ability to provide offensive production. (not sure how I am leaning on this one). Of course there is a lot more than what I mentioned, but that's enough of my thoughts. Let me explain how I feel about the transfers. Tea has 81 starts and has been remarkably consitent averaging between 9 and 11 points each of the last 3 seasons. My guess is that she will provide solid backup minutes to Talia, and some minutes at the 2 spot. I really like Emily's game if she can return healthy without showing rustiness. Her stats are so Mik like. Her stats in 2019/2020 before getting injured: 14.5ppg, 8.4rpg, 53.1%fg and 37.5 % from 3. I'm high on her game and believe she could be a difference maker in how the coming season goes for the Beavs. Truth is, I'm not sure I could even guess correctly on who the starters will be this year, but I do beleive the team may be deeper than I ever remember. There is a really good thread on the recruiting board (espnw rankings) regarding the accuracy of high school girls rankings. I doubt we would all agree on ranking the best players at OSU right now, and I doubt we would all agree on who the starters will be. That's how difficult player ranking is. By the way, if you read my thoughts on Talia in that thread, just know, I completely disagree with myself now. That's all pretty much my thoughts also. But for more specifics. Taylor needs to stay out of foul trouble. When she's playing she's one of the top 5 posts in the country, but she needs to stay in the game. Jelena needs to learn how to use her size. Boston was pushing her around way to easily. Taya and Ellie just need to get a few more rebounds and a couple of more points between them and the front line would be great. Brown just needs to work on getting herself back into the game, not stressing (yeah, I'm not too good at that myself). I would be very surprised if Greta wasn't the 2. I think she's going to be a better rebounder than Sasha but without her driving abilities. What her shooting % will be is a bit of a mystery, but I suspect she will end up better than Sasha's freshman season. Sasha's game is more complex, but when she gets it down she will be a nightmare to defend. Greta's game is more classic jump shots etc. Easier to do but you still have to do it at the college speed. Talia is already a better rebounder than Aleah but the rest of her game is in development compared to her. She will be amazing eventually, but will that be next season?
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Post by scottybooks on Jun 9, 2021 12:09:18 GMT -8
Taylor's foul trouble was as much her fouling propensity as Coach's conservative, long-practiced "two fouls early and you don't play 'til the second half." He cost her lots of minutes and diminished the team's effectiveness.
Wouldn't you much rather see her foul out with 32 strong minutes played versus three or four fouls and 22 minutes? She is a shot blocking and rebounding powerhouse, with sublime inside offense. Give her more P.T.
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 9, 2021 12:21:56 GMT -8
Taylor's foul trouble was as much her fouling propensity as Coach's conservative, long-practiced "two fouls early and you don't play 'til the second half." He cost her lots of minutes and diminished the team's effectiveness.
Wouldn't you much rather see her foul out with 32 strong minutes played versus three or four fouls and 22 minutes? She is a shot blocking and rebounding powerhouse, with sublime inside offense. Give her more P.T.
I mostly agree with your second paragraph, while disagreeing with your first paragraph. Her first two years in the program, Taylor hasn't learned to avoid those fouls. In most of the games where she picked up two early, she would have fouled out, or been much less affective before her 32 minutes rolled around. I'm on your side for getting her 32+ minutes per game though! I hope her and the staff can work on this and make it happen.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jun 9, 2021 18:58:16 GMT -8
Taylor's foul trouble was as much her fouling propensity as Coach's conservative, long-practiced "two fouls early and you don't play 'til the second half." He cost her lots of minutes and diminished the team's effectiveness.
Wouldn't you much rather see her foul out with 32 strong minutes played versus three or four fouls and 22 minutes? She is a shot blocking and rebounding powerhouse, with sublime inside offense. Give her more P.T.
I mostly agree with your second paragraph, while disagreeing with your first paragraph. Her first two years in the program, Taylor hasn't learned to avoid those fouls. In most of the games where she picked up two early, she would have fouled out, or been much less affective before her 32 minutes rolled around. I'm on your side for getting her 32+ minutes per game though! I hope her and the staff can work on this and make it happen. I can't help but think that having Kennedy back on the floor will take some of the pressure off Taylor defensively and help reduce the number of fouls.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 10, 2021 12:03:19 GMT -8
Taylor's foul trouble was as much her fouling propensity as Coach's conservative, long-practiced "two fouls early and you don't play 'til the second half." He cost her lots of minutes and diminished the team's effectiveness.
Wouldn't you much rather see her foul out with 32 strong minutes played versus three or four fouls and 22 minutes? She is a shot blocking and rebounding powerhouse, with sublime inside offense. Give her more P.T.
Disagree. Taylor needs to play smarter. You hope this comes with experience, maturity, and coaching. It’s painfully obvious when she’s going to get whistled. It’s always on a block attempt or reach. Other teams see this and go at her intentionally because they want to get her off the floor offensively. Play better positional defense with your feet! I hope she’s being coached up in this regard.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 14, 2021 20:22:46 GMT -8
FWIW today UW added a transfer from Baylor, Trinity Oliver. Stats don't look like much, maybe she has talent that was never utilized at BU. Anyway the new coach has already brought in 3 more transfers from D1 schools (3 and counting) before coaching a single game than Wynn did in 4 years. Although she did bring in 2 JCs. One of which did nothing for a year and then left, and the second one who got injured and hasn't played yet for the Dawgs. Kinda looking like the new coach is already better at selling the school than Wynn ever was. Probably adding Katie Faulkner hasn't hurt, although some of those moves were probably before she was announced as part of the staff?
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 14, 2021 20:35:03 GMT -8
Actually the two other transfers are her former players from Rice, and they did decide after Katie had been announced. Both players are very good, and today's transfer was highly ranked in High School, though she hasn't done much for Baylor. It does look like the coaching staff at Washington is off to a very good start. I expect the coaching change to be a good move for Washington.
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Post by greybeav on Jun 15, 2021 17:11:00 GMT -8
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Post by greybeav on Jun 15, 2021 17:24:32 GMT -8
Sorry, should have gone in the BH thread, because I heard about it from Raoul I automatically thought "Transfer Portal"
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Post by sparty on Jun 18, 2021 11:54:52 GMT -8
Who in the hell is Shannon Dufficy?
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 18, 2021 12:17:30 GMT -8
Who in the hell is Shannon Dufficy? Looks like she put up decent numbers at Utah St., not so much at Missouri.
Several of these UO transfers don't appear to be very high profile players. Is Graves desperate? Is the recruiting pipeline going dry?
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 21, 2021 14:33:47 GMT -8
One transfer who may be worth keeping an eye on is Tatum Veitenheimer, a 5-7 PG who is transferring from the University of Oklahoma. Her stats don't jump off the page - during the 2020-21 season she started 15/20 games and averaged 4.3 PPG, 2.3 APG, and 3.0 RPG in 27.9 MPG.
Coming out of high school, she was ranked #24 on ProspectsNation and #69 on ASGR and chose Oklahoma over UCLA (where she was likely recruited by Huth), Iowa State, Mizzou, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, and TCU. She appears to have connections with Kennedy and Talia.
If Oregon State is showing interest, she would risk being a potentially second or third string PG behind Talia and possibly Téa if she chose to finish her career in Corvallis. She does have solid P5-level experience and started over half of her games at OU.
Sounds like she's a really impressive leader, which I think we could use losing Aleah next year: We're currently at 11 active scholarship players plus Andrea and Noelle for 21-22.
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