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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 26, 2021 20:06:34 GMT -8
Plus (s)he's a Corvallis City League Champion! And allegedly 6' 4" tall. As much fun as a it would be to pile on Smails. He did have game back in the late 80's. Now he's probably a poor imitation of Sabonis, late stages with Blazers. Still damn good if so!! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 26, 2021 20:07:58 GMT -8
Let's hope that is confidence builder and kick start for the rest of the season! Judge Smails does not lack confidence  Bring your A game! |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2021 20:31:54 GMT -8
Let's hope that is confidence builder and kick start for the rest of the season! Judge Smails does not lack confidence Well, the world needs ditch diggers too. 😃 |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 26, 2021 21:41:36 GMT -8
And on people not liking criticisms of SR. I just don't like silly ones, like how he's not recruiting well despite the fact that he's gotten more highly ranked recruits almost year by year. Or how bad his offense is when they were statistically ranked 9th in the country last year according to Herhoopstats. Or how the Beav's have been doing so badly when a third of the way into last season they were one loss from being the top ranked team in the country, and then after losing their 2nd starter they still ended up a ranked team. Last season when Louisville lost their lowest scoring player for one game and then lost to an unranked opponent their coach said "we've lost a STARTER, what did you expect?". But Rueck's incompetent for the Beav's ending up a ranked team after losing two starters?? The only other team that can do that is Stanford. A sensible criticism of Rueck would have been why he didn't call timeouts in the 2nd quarters when the team was falling apart in several of the games this year. He did do it in this last game against WSU and the Beav's got their heads back in the game and stayed ahead at the halftime. Coaches make mistakes, probably comes from being human and all. But criticisms that are objectively untrue irritates me. Overall I think SR continues to do a good job, but I certainly see room for criticism. On your points: - I'd like to see how Hoopstats comes up with that ranking, as we were not a top 10 offensive team with a simple eye test. Statistically, I imagine you could manipulate our shooting efficiency to make for some high ranking, but we took 10% fewer shots than or conference opponents on average. Since in conference our opponents averages 1pt per shot, we had a 10pt delta to cover every game just to break even - which was almost exclusively due to our TO numbers. TOs are part of the offense, so it would be remiss if they are not included... and I can't see any way to a lofty offensive ranking without ignoring TOs in the last year. - Transfers out don't count as 'losing' a starter to me; keeping someone from transferring is something every coach/program has the ability to strongly influence. And by that logic, he 'gained' a starter anyway by the same route in Mack. Losing Kennedy fits the description, but again it was something that was fully expected and could be planned for as best possible. Oregon did not take a huge step out of rankings this year largely due to transfers, something CR also had at his disposal (and used). That said, I don't think he's doing an overall poor job at all. Some players don't fit well together, and this team (at least up to WSU) doesn't fit together. But I do think SR does have plenty of culpability in it going poorly, and also believe he'll figure it out just fine (even if it's not this season). |
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Post by wbosh15 on Jan 27, 2021 8:37:03 GMT -8
And on people not liking criticisms of SR. I just don't like silly ones, like how he's not recruiting well despite the fact that he's gotten more highly ranked recruits almost year by year. Or how bad his offense is when they were statistically ranked 9th in the country last year according to Herhoopstats. Or how the Beav's have been doing so badly when a third of the way into last season they were one loss from being the top ranked team in the country, and then after losing their 2nd starter they still ended up a ranked team. Last season when Louisville lost their lowest scoring player for one game and then lost to an unranked opponent their coach said "we've lost a STARTER, what did you expect?". But Rueck's incompetent for the Beav's ending up a ranked team after losing two starters?? The only other team that can do that is Stanford. A sensible criticism of Rueck would have been why he didn't call timeouts in the 2nd quarters when the team was falling apart in several of the games this year. He did do it in this last game against WSU and the Beav's got their heads back in the game and stayed ahead at the halftime. Coaches make mistakes, probably comes from being human and all. But criticisms that are objectively untrue irritates me. Overall I think SR continues to do a good job, but I certainly see room for criticism. On your points: - I'd like to see how Hoopstats comes up with that ranking, as we were not a top 10 offensive team with a simple eye test. Statistically, I imagine you could manipulate our shooting efficiency to make for some high ranking, but we took 10% fewer shots than or conference opponents on average. Since in conference our opponents averages 1pt per shot, we had a 10pt delta to cover every game just to break even - which was almost exclusively due to our TO numbers. TOs are part of the offense, so it would be remiss if they are not included... and I can't see any way to a lofty offensive ranking without ignoring TOs in the last year. - Transfers out don't count as 'losing' a starter to me; keeping someone from transferring is something every coach/program has the ability to strongly influence. And by that logic, he 'gained' a starter anyway by the same route in Mack. Losing Kennedy fits the description, but again it was something that was fully expected and could be planned for as best possible. Oregon did not take a huge step out of rankings this year largely due to transfers, something CR also had at his disposal (and used). That said, I don't think he's doing an overall poor job at all. Some players don't fit well together, and this team (at least up to WSU) doesn't fit together. But I do think SR does have plenty of culpability in it going poorly, and also believe he'll figure it out just fine (even if it's not this season). Offensive rating for most advanced stats sites uses points per 100 possessions, so turnovers are included (IE counts as a possession). Here is our team summary page going back the last 6 years, so all the way to the final four team. Our offense is down this year, but not down much in comparison to the last two pac-12 championship years. Where we are down significantly is defensive rating. This to me is almost exclusively because of rebounding issues. One thing to keep in mind, however, is the sample for this year is much different from previous seasons, as OSU generally had some very dominant wins in the non-conference season every year. herhoopstats.com/stats/ncaa/team/oregon-st-beavers-womens-basketball-stats-11e8e149-ca40-274a-af82-12df17ae4e1e/ |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 27, 2021 11:20:52 GMT -8
Overall I think SR continues to do a good job, but I certainly see room for criticism. On your points: - I'd like to see how Hoopstats comes up with that ranking, as we were not a top 10 offensive team with a simple eye test. Statistically, I imagine you could manipulate our shooting efficiency to make for some high ranking, but we took 10% fewer shots than or conference opponents on average. Since in conference our opponents averages 1pt per shot, we had a 10pt delta to cover every game just to break even - which was almost exclusively due to our TO numbers. TOs are part of the offense, so it would be remiss if they are not included... and I can't see any way to a lofty offensive ranking without ignoring TOs in the last year. - Transfers out don't count as 'losing' a starter to me; keeping someone from transferring is something every coach/program has the ability to strongly influence. And by that logic, he 'gained' a starter anyway by the same route in Mack. Losing Kennedy fits the description, but again it was something that was fully expected and could be planned for as best possible. Oregon did not take a huge step out of rankings this year largely due to transfers, something CR also had at his disposal (and used). That said, I don't think he's doing an overall poor job at all. Some players don't fit well together, and this team (at least up to WSU) doesn't fit together. But I do think SR does have plenty of culpability in it going poorly, and also believe he'll figure it out just fine (even if it's not this season). Offensive rating for most advanced stats sites uses points per 100 possessions, so turnovers are included (IE counts as a possession). Here is our team summary page going back the last 6 years, so all the way to the final four team. Our offense is down this year, but not down much in comparison to the last two pac-12 championship years. Where we are down significantly is defensive rating. This to me is almost exclusively because of rebounding issues. One thing to keep in mind, however, is the sample for this year is much different from previous seasons, as OSU generally had some very dominant wins in the non-conference season every year. herhoopstats.com/stats/ncaa/team/oregon-st-beavers-womens-basketball-stats-11e8e149-ca40-274a-af82-12df17ae4e1e/Interesting - thanks for the info and link. I will say that I do think that stat can be somewhat deceptive, even with in including TOs: - We don't push the ball, so we're more offensively efficient than offensively strong like we'd think of say a DePaul. Those teams tend to push the overall number of possessions up, which can help shrink the impact of other stats. That is, say a TO delta of -5 for them would take less of a shooting % advantage to overcome due to more overall possessions available to compensate. - I'm dubious in general of these stats being taken to the banks. If you look at their combination of offensive and defensive percentiles, it would say last year's team was overall better than the teams of the previous 2 year; I don't think anybody could buy that perspective. Some of that will be preseason schedule related. But I get your point that offense isn't what's really hurting this team. I guess the counter to that is that it might be the area where this team can help itself the most though, in that becoming better defensive rebounders and/or committing fewer TOs feels somehow less in reach. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 27, 2021 15:30:20 GMT -8
If the Judge is not baseball11, then he is his brother.  |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 27, 2021 19:16:17 GMT -8
Well, Stanford is doing what OSU couldn't. You stop the Leger-Walkers and WSU is nothing. Those 2 are getting stonewalled and the rest of the team can't hit anything. 44-18 at the half.
Damn Cameron Brink is gonna be an incredible player. She's staying out of foul trouble today and has a double-double at the half. 10 pts/10 reb/4 assists/3 blocks.
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