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Post by newduke2 on Dec 8, 2020 22:18:30 GMT -8
So, baseball is the only sport OSU is better than Oregon at? I was hoping OSU would at least be very competitive with Oregon in WBB, but Oregon is clearly getting better recruits, has a great coach, and has raced past OSU. Even WBB is trending like other sports (sans baseball), to an upset win or two every 10 years, and boy, will we excited and pleased as fans. I hope I am wrong, but Ducks are not building anymore, they are just reloading in WBB and solidifying themselves as yet another program superior to OSU. You must have missed the Civil War football game. Btw, I believe this team is one Hailey Van Lith away from being a totally different team. HVL was a big deal at the time. If only..... Of course I saw the football win over the Ducks and it was great. However, before this, OSU was 1-11 in the previous 12 games against Oregon (yes OSU was 6-4 against the Ducks from 1998 to 2007). One win is hardly a new trend, but it would be wonderful if it becomes one. And yes, I agree Haily Van Lith could have been a difference maker. She is killin' it so far at Louisville. Oh well, as you say, if only.
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Post by 76spirit on Dec 8, 2020 22:43:37 GMT -8
Well whomever was assigned to guard Maxwell didn't get the job done. Don't know if that was Goodman or Goforth. Goodman gets a fair number of strips in the course of games. Playing man defense would be a good assessment rather than the zone they’re predominantly in.
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 8, 2020 22:45:12 GMT -8
I think possibly some people are overreacting to this loss.
Goodman was fine, but needs to be more willing to goose some peeps into getting more rebounds.
Taya in the second half was getting more like her old self.
Sasha needs to use better judgement about when to drive. At least 3 turnovers trying to drive when there was no opening.
Savannah had somewhat the same problem.
Love both of their aggressiveness, just need better judgement. Just Frosh after all.
Mack, Rueck put her at the post and immediately had two baskets against her. Hope that doesn't happen again. She is in a shooting slump and we need her to knock some down.
Jones I don't pretend to understand. This is by far her worst game.
Mitro had some difficulties, but she was able to score and rebound and I don't know why Rueck was trying everyone at post instead of her.
Yo, why was Mack inside there instead of Yo. Lost on what Rueck was doing.
If Mack doesn't get going soon I think Jaz needs to be in the starter.
Beav's defense is based on getting the defensive rebounds. That didn't happen and so they lost. Happens again they lose again. A front line of Jones, Taya and Mack should not ever get out rebounded.
Beav's have a great video to see what they need to do to improve. We will see this weekend what happens.
And on how incredible and amazing the Ducks were against Utah.
Utah's FT this game was 84%, against the Ducks it was 27%. I don't think the Ducks defense/offense had anything to do with that.
Utah's 3 point shooting in this game was 37% and against the Ducks was 15%. You really think the Ducks defense is that much better than the Beav's?
I could go on but suffice to say that the Ducks got the benefit of playing someone who had no practice before the game. I don't know how the next game will go but I really don't think that the Beav's are going to lose by 48 points as some of you seem to be convinced. And if Jones and Taya come to play then I see the Beav's winning.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 8, 2020 23:18:41 GMT -8
Well in perspective, OSU has historically have had players across all sports play extremely poorly in a game, only to be lights out in the following civil war game. Maybe Taylor Jones will take that cap this next game.
This will also be the Ducks' rebuilding year so they are probably just as up and down, with losing Ionescu, Sabally, Moore and Hebard.
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Post by lotrader on Dec 9, 2020 7:27:47 GMT -8
OSU got outhustled last night. Utah seemingly won all the 50-50 balls last night. That was the first issue. We would have won last night if we had won a few more of those 50-50 balls. Taylor Jones has had two miserable games in a row. 1-10, and 5 turnovers last night. TJ's indecision once she receives the ball in the post is deadly. TJ is also not deep enough when she receives the ball, she must get better position, meaning closer to the rim.
What did I like from last night? Our two 6'1" freshman. Sasha is a stud. She was trying too hard last night to carry the team, and it resulted in too many turnovers, but I love her aggressiveness. Samuel was very effective defensively last night when she was covering Maxwell. Why OSU coaches changed that up, I don't know? SS is also aggressive.
Aleah was also solid, and, awesome. Jelena is getting better every game. She was far better than TJ in the 11 minutes she played. I'm hoping she gets more minutes. Jas has also been much better this year.
Coaches need to get TJ playing better. That is our current challenge for this team. When TJ isn't contributing, everyone else is trying to do to much, and, it leads to turnovers. I say we play Jelena more minutes every game, and, get some serious work/changes in how we deploy and use TJ.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 9, 2020 9:56:41 GMT -8
Folks. They played poorly tonight. Not going to argue much of what has been noted about the game. But remember that half this team is new, with 3 freshman in the rotation. It's not going to be a top 4 conference finish, but it's not as bad as you all make it sound. No excuses, but have some perspective (3 frosh, Taya back after a year, 2 new transfers.) That's alot of roster change. Give them time and some grace. Well, the Ducks have all new starters, 5 frosh, 2 new transfers, plus 2 upperclassmen seeing the floor at Oregon for the first time and they are doing very well. That's even more roster change than OSU, but they are excelling. Go figure. Erin Boley is not a new starter.
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Post by newduke2 on Dec 9, 2020 10:31:23 GMT -8
Well, the Ducks have all new starters, 5 frosh, 2 new transfers, plus 2 upperclassmen seeing the floor at Oregon for the first time and they are doing very well. That's even more roster change than OSU, but they are excelling. Go figure. Erin Boley is not a new starter. You are correct, but then neither is Taya Corosdale, Aleah Goodman, or Taylor Jones, so the Ducks have 4 new starters and the Beavers only 2. Still makes my point.
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Post by beav74 on Dec 9, 2020 10:51:57 GMT -8
Well in perspective, OSU has historically have had players across all sports play extremely poorly in a game, only to be lights out in the following civil war game. Maybe Taylor Jones will take that cap this next game. This will also be the Ducks' rebuilding year so they are probably just as up and down, with losing Ionescu, Sabally, Moore and Hebard. The Ducks are not rebuilding...they're reloading. If anything the challenge will be how to get all 13 players enough playing time.
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Post by beav74 on Dec 9, 2020 11:09:01 GMT -8
Well in perspective, OSU has historically have had players across all sports play extremely poorly in a game, only to be lights out in the following civil war game. Maybe Taylor Jones will take that cap this next game. This will also be the Ducks' rebuilding year so they are probably just as up and down, with losing Ionescu, Sabally, Moore and Hebard. The Ducks are not rebuilding...they're reloading. If anything the challenge will be how to get all 13 players enough playing time. This might explain why...https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1710759-power-ranking-the-25-most-impressive-facilities-in-college-football
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Post by nwhoopfan on Dec 11, 2020 17:14:16 GMT -8
Utes are following up their big win...by trailing Montana St. about halfway thru Q3.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Dec 11, 2020 17:45:40 GMT -8
Never mind. Utah running away in Q4.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 11, 2020 20:33:35 GMT -8
Erin Boley is not a new starter. You are correct, but then neither is Taya Corosdale, Aleah Goodman, or Taylor Jones, so the Ducks have 4 new starters and the Beavers only 2. Still makes my point. At no point in her career, until this year, was Goodman a full-time starter. Before this year, she had started only 21 of her 97 career games. Lots of experience? Yes. But a returning, full-time starter? No. And Taylor Mikesell was a full-time, two-year starter for Maryland before transferring to UO. So she may be a first-time starter at UO, but she certainly is not a "new starter" and had plenty of practice time to adjust to her new team.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 11, 2020 23:52:09 GMT -8
You are correct, but then neither is Taya Corosdale, Aleah Goodman, or Taylor Jones, so the Ducks have 4 new starters and the Beavers only 2. Still makes my point. At no point in her career, until this year, was Goodman a full-time starter. Before this year, she had started only 21 of her 97 career games. Lots of experience? Yes. But a returning, full-time starter? No. And Taylor Mikesell was a full-time, two-year starter for Maryland before transferring to UO. So she may be a first-time starter at UO, but she certainly is not a "new starter" and had plenty of practice time to adjust to her new team. SO I guess Taylor Mikesell had more time and experience with UO than Aleah adjusting to a starter role with OSU. So we will give Aleah that break if she has bad game then.
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Post by bmoc on Dec 12, 2020 5:19:04 GMT -8
For what it's worth, I noticed that Taylor Jones had a lot of "cupping" bruises on both shoulders. Could be an indication of some issues that would definitely affect her rebounding and follow-through.
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Post by willtalk on Dec 12, 2020 6:19:56 GMT -8
Players are not machines. The often have off days and sub par performances for a variety of different reasons. This is why I always say we are never as good as our best game or as bad as our worst preformance. Anyone who has ever played the game should remember times when you could not drop in a simple layup and then other games when it was almost impossible to miss. There are also times when we are tired, sick or just out of sorts.
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