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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 10:29:01 GMT -8
Then again it’s very selfish of those as risk that don’t give a crap about people out of work because perhaps they are retired or work for the state and have a paycheck coming in or don’t want to take the proper precautions with their at risk family members or themselves. Just shut down society to protect me , I will be fine and I don’t give a sh..t about anyone else. Cuts both ways College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? they get a paid education and most states are passing legislation to allow them to earn money based on their name image and likeness. They are very low risk of dying from covid as are most healthy people under the age of 70. They can choose not to play no one is forcing them too. whats your point, they can continue with life as usual but no one else can so we can protect them and let them play a game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 10:30:55 GMT -8
You should really think again about having a talk politics board and send everything political there. It'd help keep the overall board busy and help get this stuff the main board posts for the most part. Other option is to just go back to deleting it when it pops up. i agree just delete all of them not just the responses to posts you dont agree with. We dont want to become twitter here |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 10, 2020 11:04:00 GMT -8
Then again it’s very selfish of those as risk that don’t give a crap about people out of work because perhaps they are retired or work for the state and have a paycheck coming in or don’t want to take the proper precautions with their at risk family members or themselves. Just shut down society to protect me , I will be fine and I don’t give a sh..t about anyone else. Cuts both ways College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? So you think football would start but the rest of the students wouldn't come back to school? I'm confused. And of course they do get compensated by receiving a free college education, but that's another story. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 10, 2020 11:20:34 GMT -8
College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? So you think football would start but the rest of the students wouldn't come back to school? I'm confused. And of course they do get compensated by receiving a free college education, but that's another story. Since my daughter is attending OSU in the fall, and we have had a never ending stream of emails and the like, I can say with certainty OSU is planning on having students back on campus in the fall. The most significant remediation they have announced is any class over 50 students will be online. All other classes they intend to conduct in person. So far no changes have been made for student housing and in fact on Monday my daughter is nervously awaiting her dorm assignment. We haven't heard specific details about moving in, other than to say they will be announcing plans. I doubt they are going to test the entire student body or anything, but I am sure there will be some level of check, if even just symptoms and temperature, required to move in. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 10, 2020 11:54:35 GMT -8
So you think football would start but the rest of the students wouldn't come back to school? I'm confused. And of course they do get compensated by receiving a free college education, but that's another story. Since my daughter is attending OSU in the fall, and we have had a never ending stream of emails and the like, I can say with certainty OSU is planning on having students back on campus in the fall. The most significant remediation they have announced is any class over 50 students will be online. All other classes they intend to conduct in person. So far no changes have been made for student housing and in fact on Monday my daughter is nervously awaiting her dorm assignment. We haven't heard specific details about moving in, other than to say they will be announcing plans. I doubt they are going to test the entire student body or anything, but I am sure there will be some level of check, if even just symptoms and temperature, required to move in. Sounds great to me. I don't understand irimi's post singling out football players, like we should feel sorry for them having to come back to school. |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 10, 2020 12:10:29 GMT -8
College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? they get a paid education and most states are passing legislation to allow them to earn money based on their name image and likeness. They are very low risk of dying from covid as are most healthy people under the age of 70. They can choose not to play no one is forcing them too. whats your point, they can continue with life as usual but no one else can so we can protect them and let them play a game. Care to guess how many athletes will get "paid" for their name, image, and likeness. I feel like this is just more of the BIG school/booster and BIG athlete paperbag money-man scenario. Guess we will see how it turns out. My inclination is not very many athletes...and fewer Beavers will get paid. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2020 12:16:15 GMT -8
College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? they get a paid education and most states are passing legislation to allow them to earn money based on their name image and likeness. They are very low risk of dying from covid as are most healthy people under the age of 70. They can choose not to play no one is forcing them too. whats your point, they can continue with life as usual but no one else can so we can protect them and let them play a game. So all we care about is whether those who get COVID live or die? Really short-sighted of you. What they get paid (tuition) is laughable and you know it. They play because they dream of making it, not because they are scholars with nothing else to do. Yeah, they don’t have to play. You’re right. But that is exactly the power that the NCAA has over them. Either play or walk away because very few could actually sit out a year and get back with the team once this pandemic ends. Saying that they can walk away is forcing them to play because you know they will. This is exactly my point. Someone has to step up and make the correct decision for the right reasons. Forget the money right now. It sucks but we have to protect the young men. And I don’t see enough people saying this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 12:21:21 GMT -8
they get a paid education and most states are passing legislation to allow them to earn money based on their name image and likeness. They are very low risk of dying from covid as are most healthy people under the age of 70. They can choose not to play no one is forcing them too. whats your point, they can continue with life as usual but no one else can so we can protect them and let them play a game. Care to guess how many athletes will get "paid" for their name, image, and likeness. I feel like this is just more of the BIG school/booster and BIG athlete paperbag money-man scenario. Guess we will see how it turns out. My inclination is not very many athletes...and fewer Beavers will get paid. Every college athlete on scholarship gets paid to be on the team |
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Post by mbabeav on Jun 10, 2020 12:29:58 GMT -8
So we have, if I can get this straight, either the Dems, or the Pubs are at fault for the Pandemic, China's or WHO's behavior, the lack of treatment or a vaccine that should have been ready a year ago, the athletes for wanting or not wanting to play because they feel invulnerable or should take the risk because it is so small, "and my social media expert is better than your social media expert".
Oh, and don't leave out the personal insults because they are as good as any treatment we have anyway, or not.
Meanwhile my co-workers and I, deemed essential by those who can work from home, must deal with people who refuse to wear masks, maintain safe distance, think it's all a commie pinko plot just because they haven't been able to use that phrase for a bit and can't admit that those faithful conservative anti socialists actually voted for at least a temporary form of universal health care due to this pandemic that is a commie pinko lie, so they don't care about putting us in harm's way to keep a key part of their life working.
That close to everything?
And thank you to all the people who are wearing masks, maintaining safe distances and understanding the changes we have to make to our work environment. We know you need our help, and we are here to help, unless we can't be.
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2020 12:30:18 GMT -8
College athletes don’t get a paycheck, and they would be putting themselves at risk more than anyone who does get a paycheck from the sport. Don’t you care about them at all? So you think football would start but the rest of the students wouldn't come back to school? I'm confused. And of course they do get compensated by receiving a free college education, but that's another story. I’ve seen what OSU hopes to have happen in the Fall concerning classes. They will take precautions. Large classes will be held online. And I think classes held in the classroom are supposed to keep social distance. Teachers and students will wear masks. Stuff like that. Practical steps. I don’t want college football to happen yet. COVID 19 is still active in the US and cases continue to rise. The need for football is minimal, yet as a strenuous contact sport, the odds of passing a virus from one to another are high. Also, factor in the amount of traveling that teams do. It’s insane. Yes, the college boys will not die from COVID, but the long-term effects are unknown. To think in terms of life or death devalues their very existence. So the real question comes down to why are you willing to risk the health of college athletes? Why do you think the NCAA will not make a decision based primarily upon dollar signs? Let the kids study this year. Let the pros figure out if it is practical to start back up. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2020 12:33:38 GMT -8
Care to guess how many athletes will get "paid" for their name, image, and likeness. I feel like this is just more of the BIG school/booster and BIG athlete paperbag money-man scenario. Guess we will see how it turns out. My inclination is not very many athletes...and fewer Beavers will get paid. Every college athlete on scholarship gets paid to be on the team So playing college football is not their livelihood; it’s their education. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2020 12:40:29 GMT -8
To study. And what has the university done to protect students? A lot. In Fall, classes may look very different still. But you guys want students to go out and put themselves at risk on the field for your entertainment? Seriously, why? I have yet to meet one student athlete that is required, mandated to step on a field or court. They can be like most students and simply be students and pay their own way. Really its as simple as that. You’re wrong. By saying this, you realize that you put the student in a terrible position. He simply wants to play ball. Probably more than we want him to play ball. So he will, if given the opportunity. Do you think a young man would make the best decision in such a scenario, especially when adults can’t seem to think logically about it? The student shouldn’t be left to make a damned if you do, damned if you don’t sort of choice. But that’s exactly what you are saying. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 10, 2020 13:43:40 GMT -8
You’re wrong. By saying this, you realize that you put the student in a terrible position. He simply wants to play ball. Probably more than we want him to play ball. So he will, if given the opportunity. Do you think a young man would make the best decision in such a scenario, especially when adults can’t seem to think logically about it? The student shouldn’t be left to make a damned if you do, damned if you don’t sort of choice. But that’s exactly what you are saying. But, hold on. You're saying there should be no ball. That $$ are the driving factor. Ok. Then ball players will need to pay their own way to attend school. Just as if they chose not to, or weren't an athlete. Driven by dollars effects the entire university. But, you can't have it both ways. No football means schools can't afford the scholarships that allow these kids an education. I'll tell you right now 90% of those athletes I've tutored know they aren't playing for an NFL future. Many dream, but most know that the education they receive via scholarship is their chance at a better life. So those $ driving decisions cut both ways. And, these players are adults, they are free to choose. But, sports are a path to a dream, not just in athletics. Without $ coming in scholarships couldn't be maintained. I'd venture to day 60%-70%+ could not afford post HS education. Folks are in "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations everyday. More so now. It's going to be part of our life for a while. So it's happening sometime. Is months from now the right time? Who knows!? It's like now, all 20/20 hindsight. I’m not asking for it both ways. If NCAA says there’s no football, no scholarships, kids gotta pay, then at least the kids have a decision to make that doesn’t involve their health. Sit out a year or study a year. No harm, no foul. In 2021, assuming things are back to normal, they pick up where they were. It’s a great option because no one gets hurt, except those who profit from the game. If the COVID situation remains like this and they decide to have a football season, it should really make you wonder. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jun 10, 2020 13:49:39 GMT -8
But, hold on. You're saying there should be no ball. That $$ are the driving factor. Ok. Then ball players will need to pay their own way to attend school. Just as if they chose not to, or weren't an athlete. Driven by dollars effects the entire university. But, you can't have it both ways. No football means schools can't afford the scholarships that allow these kids an education. I'll tell you right now 90% of those athletes I've tutored know they aren't playing for an NFL future. Many dream, but most know that the education they receive via scholarship is their chance at a better life. So those $ driving decisions cut both ways. And, these players are adults, they are free to choose. But, sports are a path to a dream, not just in athletics. Without $ coming in scholarships couldn't be maintained. I'd venture to day 60%-70%+ could not afford post HS education. Folks are in "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations everyday. More so now. It's going to be part of our life for a while. So it's happening sometime. Is months from now the right time? Who knows!? It's like now, all 20/20 hindsight. I’m not asking for it both ways. If NCAA says there’s no football, no scholarships, kids gotta pay, then at least the kids have a decision to make that doesn’t involve their health. Sit out a year or study a year. No harm, no foul. In 2021, assuming things are back to normal, they pick up where they were. It’s a great option because no one gets hurt, except those who profit from the game. If the COVID situation remains like this and they decide to have a football season, it should really make you wonder. So are you assuming no football this year means no scholarships? Did our spring sports scholarship kids lose their scholarships? I'm pretty sure they honored scholarships this spring, and will honor them next year if need be. Long term might be another thing though. |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 10, 2020 13:57:59 GMT -8
Care to guess how many athletes will get "paid" for their name, image, and likeness. I feel like this is just more of the BIG school/booster and BIG athlete paperbag money-man scenario. Guess we will see how it turns out. My inclination is not very many athletes...and fewer Beavers will get paid. Every college athlete on scholarship gets paid to be on the team No they don't. And you chose to ignore the main point of the question/discussion regarding compensation for their likeness. |
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