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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 13:56:20 GMT -8
I’ve never seen a premier player like Tinkle get so few calls. He just gets hammered and they don’t call anything. The last play he actually initiated contact and threw a pretty good elbow push off.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 7, 2020 14:05:52 GMT -8
Speaking of comical... you are really reaching. Jimmy won a total of 15 games his last 2 seasons. It was time for OSU to move on. Wayne has won a minimum of 34 games the last two seasons, and it's not over yet. Do you see the difference? 1st the quoted post was about 6 seasons. 2nd, you now count Jimmy's 2 worst, but love to count WTs 4 best. Get the difference. Compare JA's best 4 to WT's... get it. If you're going to compare one of the top coaches in NCAA history to WT get prepared to be humiliated. My gawd... Tinkle has had only 1 bad season. It was real bad, bad enough to affect his overall record for many years.... but it was only 1 bad season and it's coming up on 4 seasons ago. Jimmy had 4 consecutive seasons with losing records. Tinkle has had one losing record several seasons ago. Im not saying we give him 4 losing seasons, but considering OSU's history we probably shouldn't fire him until the team isn't competitive for at least a season.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 7, 2020 14:08:01 GMT -8
I’ve never seen a premier player like Tinkle get so few calls. He just gets hammered and they don’t call anything. The last play he actually initiated contact and threw a pretty good elbow push off. It’s possible I’m jaded.
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 7, 2020 14:15:46 GMT -8
The last play he actually initiated contact and threw a pretty good elbow push off. It’s possible I’m jaded. I think some of it has to do with the fact that he doesn’t elevate. He often bringing the ball into the defenders hands and arms trying to force it through. Makes it easier for the refs not to make a call.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 14:18:42 GMT -8
I think some of it has to do with the fact that he doesn’t elevate. He often bringing the ball into the defenders hands and arms trying to force it through. Makes it easier for the refs not to make a call. And, very one handed. Doesn't move the ball much, easy to block or get hands on. He depends on initiating lots of contact himself.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 7, 2020 14:49:20 GMT -8
I guess. The NCAA did vacate 15 of Miller's wins to make that happen.... So Miller did average 2.5 more wins a season than Tinkle, seems like some people act like it was 7-8 or more. Well lets compare apples to apples. While at osu miller coached about 28 games a year (including nit/ncaa) Tinkle at 31. Its likely if miller coached 3 more games a year there would be at least 2 and probably 3 wins a year to his average. So that would be 5 more wins a year compared to tinkle. Pretty sure many would be elated if tinkle had five more wins a year. What drunkandstoopidbeav is saying is that Miller was 11 games above .500 (if you discount the forfeits), and Tinkle is 4 games below .500. 15 wins over six seasons is 2.5. Miller averaged 27 games/year for the first six years. Tinkle is at 31 games, 4 games per year. This is primarily accounted for by the fact that Tinkle coaches an additional four conference games/year in conference than Miller did. If Miller won the additional 16 games at his overall rate, you would expect to see 1-2 wins more total over six years, 2.757 wins more per year than Tinkle rather than 2.500. But no, it would not be five more wins/year.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 14:52:15 GMT -8
Well lets compare apples to apples. While at osu miller coached about 28 games a year (including nit/ncaa) Tinkle at 31. Its likely if miller coached 3 more games a year there would be at least 2 and probably 3 wins a year to his average. So that would be 5 more wins a year compared to tinkle. Pretty sure many would be elated if tinkle had five more wins a year. What drunkandstoopidbeav is saying is that Miller was 11 games above .500 (if you discount the forfeits), and Tinkle is 4 games below .500. 15 wins over six seasons is 2.5. Miller averaged 27 games/year for the first six years. Tinkle is at 31 games, 4 games per year. This is primarily accounted for by the fact that Tinkle coaches an additional four conference games/year in conference than Miller did. If Miller won the additional 16 games at his overall rate, you would expect to see 1-2 wins more total over six years, 2.757 wins more per year than Tinkle rather than 2.500. But no, it would not be five more wins/year. Actually... what you both post about past comparisons is complete BS. And, actually posters should just stop replying to such troll posts.
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 7, 2020 15:08:51 GMT -8
On the bright side, I think it is great to whip Cal and move into an 8th place tie. The next couple of years are obvious rebuilding seasons after this high note.
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Post by alwaysorange on Mar 7, 2020 15:22:34 GMT -8
On the bright side, I think it is great to whip Cal and move into an 8th place tie. The next couple of years are obvious rebuilding seasons after this high note. Love the sarcasm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 17:29:41 GMT -8
On the bright side, I think it is great to whip Cal and move into an 8th place tie. The next couple of years are obvious rebuilding seasons after this high note. We met preseason expectations of being mediocre! That's something to be excited about!!!!!!
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 17:34:22 GMT -8
On the bright side, I think it is great to whip Cal and move into an 8th place tie. The next couple of years are obvious rebuilding seasons after this high note. We met preseason expectations of being mediocre! That's something to be excited about!!!!!! Except... if you glance back many of the supporters of mediocrity actually thought 20, 20+ wins, upper half of Pac12, and NCAA. So, they've lowered their own bar of mediocrity. And, even though it was pointed out early on the Pac12 would be better with talented newcomers they continued to argued that... until.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 7, 2020 19:35:38 GMT -8
We met preseason expectations of being mediocre! That's something to be excited about!!!!!! Except... if you glance back many of the supporters of mediocrity actually thought 20, 20+ wins, upper half of Pac12, and NCAA. So, they've lowered their own bar of mediocrity. And, even though it was pointed out early on the Pac12 would be better with talented newcomers they continued to argued that... until. I've checked back for months on this and can't find one thread of anyone predicting 20+ wins, the upper half of the Pac-12 and an NCAA berth. But keep making stuff up, you're good at that.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 7, 2020 19:40:11 GMT -8
I’m with Bb1111 on this. There was plenty of 20 win, Ncaa tourney talk. No, I’m not going to sort through thousands of posts to find it. Hell, I think this should have won 20 games and made the Tourney. Actually, they still have a puncher’s chance.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 19:47:14 GMT -8
Except... if you glance back many of the supporters of mediocrity actually thought 20, 20+ wins, upper half of Pac12, and NCAA. So, they've lowered their own bar of mediocrity. And, even though it was pointed out early on the Pac12 would be better with talented newcomers they continued to argued that... until. I've checked back for months on this and can't find one thread of anyone predicting 20+ wins, the upper half of the Pac-12 and an NCAA berth. But keep making stuff up, you're good at that. Better look more...
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 7, 2020 19:48:13 GMT -8
I've checked back for months on this and can't find one thread of anyone predicting 20+ wins, the upper half of the Pac-12 and an NCAA berth. But keep making stuff up, you're good at that. Better look more... So show me.
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