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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 6, 2020 20:40:41 GMT -8
Nowhere did I say grad transfers were a problem. What I said was,
"Grad transfers are supposed to be allowed only for academic reasons. They are almost universally bogus, as the player immediately leaves school once his/her eligibility is complete."
The stats show this is largely true for basketball and football players. I'd be interested to see how many grad transfers at tsdtr, a well-known destination for such athletes, actually earned an MA degree, or even stayed in school after their eligibility was exhausted. Not many, I'd bet.
It's pretty tough for a USC graduate to find a superior school than USC for an advanced degree.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 6, 2020 20:50:20 GMT -8
Nowhere did I say grad transfers were a problem. What I said was, "Grad transfers are supposed to be allowed only for academic reasons. They are almost universally bogus, as the player immediately leaves school once his/her eligibility is complete."The stats show this is largely true for basketball and football players. I'd be interested to see how many grad transfers at tsdtr, a well-known destination for such athletes, actually earned an MA degree, or even stayed in school after their eligibility was exhausted. Not many, I'd bet. It's pretty tough for a USC graduate to find a superior school than USC for an advanced degree. They are allowed for only academic reasons. That in no way means completion of a degree. As for USC vs whatever school. It has zero to do with superior. All that is required in the transfer is finding a grad degree SC doesn't offer. Pretty easy to do as each universities don't offer every grad degree possible. You can't legislate intent. It's a great opportunity for many student athletes. If some take advantage of it for only athletic purposes, so be it. It's within the current rule. Each school can accept grad transfers, there is no advantage to any one of them as the athletic departments don't dictate the academic degrees. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 6, 2020 21:11:08 GMT -8
Irrelevant if your undergrad school has the grad program you are transferring for. For instance if a player receives a bachelor degree in business from the OSU and still have eligibility left they could transfer to Stanford to get an mba.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 6, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -8
As the NCAA is caving on the California law, potential graduate transfers will shop for the best deal, including at their own school. "I'd really like to stay for my last year here coach, but I've only got 1 endorsement deal in town which pays me X dollars. Coach Brown down in Los Angeles has promised me a minimum of 2 endorsements paying triple what I get here. Anything you can do on this end?" Not that cheating could or won't occur, but your post shows zero understanding of the Cali law and the NCAA response. Who knows what the end result will be, but it's not going to involve coaches getting players endorsement deals. I would bet my house that it's going to involve coaches and boosters getting people endorsement deals. If Sean Miller or John Calipari were coaching women's basketball instead of men's, don't you think they'd find some guy within their university's equivalent of the Rebounders to take care of players they wanted? You may think me wrong, but, in my opinion, California and the NCAA have just opened the hen house door a crack for the fox, who, being a fox, will proceed to push it further and further open. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 6, 2020 22:59:44 GMT -8
Not that cheating could or won't occur, but your post shows zero understanding of the Cali law and the NCAA response. Who knows what the end result will be, but it's not going to involve coaches getting players endorsement deals. I would bet my house that it's going to involve coaches and boosters getting people endorsement deals. If Sean Miller or John Calipari were coaching women's basketball instead of men's, don't you think they'd find some guy within their university's equivalent of the Rebounders to take care of players they wanted? You may think me wrong, but, in my opinion, California and the NCAA have just opened the hen house door a crack for the fox, who, being a fox, will proceed to push it further and further open. As I said... what you implied was it was the law/NCAA bending to it. There is cheating now. But, the law doesn't allow what you state. Will it create more cheating... probably not, it'll provide a loophole for the creative ones who do. But, The NCAA version is far different than Cali Law. And, the NCAA version is what counts for schools to stay affiliated. The NCAA and it's mountains of rules has always been an "open door". There lack of ability to investigate and enforce them even more so. To me, if handled properly you can actually split up college sports... schools who want a more pure amateurism and those who want athletes compensated in some way. But, there is ZERO chance that this enforceable to the degree that all athletes will be compensated to what they think they are "worth". There is no way you can determine how on player is worth more than another. And, then you can get into an entire Title IX connection and how females better get the same compensation. True it's a hornet's nest, but really nothing has been decided. Legislation without implementation is really nothing. So, I'll be interested in how things churn out. But, lawsuits vs companies using players likenesses in video games was said to be the end of college sports... however, much ado about nothing. |
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