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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 4, 2020 21:11:35 GMT -8
The OSU Sport Info Department is listing the average attendance for the first 9 home games this season as 5,466. It is shown on osubeavers.com on the page that shows the season stats for the WBB team. I think this is correct. We have not had any games with real low attendance that I can remember The announced attendance for each game this year: U.C. Irvine 5,404 Pacific 4,202 DePaul 4,430 Missouri St. 4,872 So. Utah 9,301 (the kids) Hawaii 4,784 Utah St. 5,038 Bakersfield 5,534 Utah 5,629 Total 49,194, or 5,466 per game Anybody who attended the game would confirm that were hundreds and hundreds of empty seats at the Southern Utah game. Also, there were way more people actually in attendance for Utah on Friday night than were present for Bakersfield. It was a significant and readily apparent difference, and 95 is neither significant nor apparent. So I think it's a function of tickets sold, not scanned at the door. |
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Post by bennyskid on Jan 4, 2020 21:46:09 GMT -8
The kids pack in on those bench seats a whole lot tighter than the adult crowd.
But really, the logistics of that game are such that they can only guess the actual attendance. They don't even try to scan the kids. All they can do is get counts from each school (well in advance), and stop accepting more requests from schools when it looks like they've reached 9301. I'm sure that most schools give a number that's a little on the high side.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 4, 2020 21:54:22 GMT -8
I think this is correct. We have not had any games with real low attendance that I can remember The announced attendance for each game this year: U.C. Irvine 5,404 Pacific 4,202 DePaul 4,430 Missouri St. 4,872 So. Utah 9,301 (the kids) Hawaii 4,784 Utah St. 5,038 Bakersfield 5,534 Utah 5,629 Total 49,194, or 5,466 per game Anybody who attended the game would confirm that were hundreds and hundreds of empty seats at the Southern Utah game. Also, there were way more people actually in attendance for Utah on Friday night than were present for Bakersfield. It was a significant and readily apparent difference, and 95 is neither significant nor apparent. So I think it's a function of tickets sold, not scanned at the door. Attendance #s are variable by schools and official sites like a conference. OSU reports people in the seats. Some "officially" consider it as paid AND thru the turnstiles. There is no real way to really know actual #s. But, to me attendance shouldn't count free tix to thousands. I really don't see the big hubbub concerning attendance. Who cares the ages of our fans, how loud vs MBB, or making fun of the numbers at other schools. What matters is the fans that do show. Funny, I wonder how many who chatter on about attendance actually attend themselves?! |
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Post by sparty on Jan 5, 2020 7:04:38 GMT -8
Then once again the marketing department is under reporting the numbers to the Pac-12 and the Pac-12 network. Then we get the expected post saying attendance does not matter.
Same posts I seen in the football threads in September. So I ask does attendance matter at all in WBB? I think it does. Does attendance matter in football and spills over to the winter sports? I think it does. I am not saying I am right but I think there is a natural attendance bounce tied to general success in football for winter sports. Is that inaccurate?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 5, 2020 7:57:00 GMT -8
OSU reports tickets sold/distributed, not actual butts in seats, in all sports. It's the national standard.
Baseball will announce 3K plus on a rainy day when many elect to stay home.
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Post by mike74 on Jan 5, 2020 9:32:25 GMT -8
I think this is correct. We have not had any games with real low attendance that I can remember The announced attendance for each game this year: U.C. Irvine 5,404 Pacific 4,202 DePaul 4,430 Missouri St. 4,872 So. Utah 9,301 (the kids) Hawaii 4,784 Utah St. 5,038 Bakersfield 5,534 Utah 5,629 Total 49,194, or 5,466 per game It's a real advantage to have both lots of tickets sold and butts in the seats to increase the level of distress it creates for visiting teams and continued recruiting strength. Recently read on one of the national sites that the Oregon State/Oregon road trip is now considered the most difficult in the nation (and obviously in the PAC-12) due to both the high quality of both universities' WBB teams and the distinct advantage of both enjoying large game attendance. With students now back from winter break, I would believe that the attendance will only increase for both Beavers & Ducks and make the home court advantage increase in magnitude. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 5, 2020 12:20:17 GMT -8
Then once again the marketing department is under reporting the numbers to the Pac-12 and the Pac-12 network. Then we get the expected post saying attendance does not matter. Same posts I seen in the football threads in September. So I ask does attendance matter at all in WBB? I think it does. Does attendance matter in football and spills over to the winter sports? I think it does. I am not saying I am right but I think there is a natural attendance bounce tied to general success in football for winter sports. Is that inaccurate? Where is that post... "attendance doesn't matter"? |
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Post by carlosdanger on Jan 5, 2020 21:42:30 GMT -8
Average Home Attendance numbers from Pac-12 website so far this year. Yikes for Wash. St. at 651 Oregon 9,743
Arizona 4,650 Oregon St. 4,282
Stanford 2,906 UCLA 2,429 Arizona St. 2,381
Utah 1,791 Colorado 1,426 Washington 1,337 Cal 1,283
USC 678 Wash.St. 651
Jeebus. No wonder the Ducks have taken over the conference. Considering they are bringing in 5 five-star recruits, doesn't look like that will change any time soon.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 5, 2020 22:14:37 GMT -8
USC proved today that Friday's attendance of 509 for Arizona was no fluke. A rousing 412 made it today for Arizona State. You suppose they had an ice storm or something like that?
The Washington State people are really going to have to work to bring their apathy down to that level. Wazoo has finished last in attendance for 3 straight years, but USC is a down and comer. I think they have a great chance to be yelling, "WE're number 12!" come March.
Attendance today was 5,320, making the average after 10 games 5,451. I don't know where that 4,282 number comes from. Our lowest single game attendance was 4,202 against Pacific.
Average attendance after 10 games last year was 5,176. Year before that, it was 4,536.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 5, 2020 22:29:04 GMT -8
USC proved today that Friday's attendance of 509 for Arizona was no fluke. A rousing 412 made it today for Arizona State. You suppose they had an ice storm or something like that? The Washington State people are really going to have to work to bring their apathy down to that level. Wazoo has finished last in attendance for 3 straight years, but USC is a down and comer. I think they have a great chance to be yelling, "WE're number 12!" come March. Attendance today was 5,320, making the average after 10 games 5,451. I don't know where that 4,282 number comes from. Our lowest single game attendance was 4,202 against Pacific. Average attendance after 10 games last year was 5,176. Year before that, it was 4,536. I saw that WSU at ASU game on Pac-12 app. The usual saying is "family and friends" but in this case there must be small families and very few friends. It must be somewhat demoralizing to play in front of such a nonexistant "home court advantage". I don't blame Minion Moore for wanting to gtfo. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 5, 2020 22:29:33 GMT -8
I looked at the PAC 12 site, and discovered where their error is. They show us playing 13 home games, 1 away game, and 0 neutral site games, whereas it's actually 10 home and 4 neutral. They show total attendance of 56,000 and something, which is too high. They then divided the 56,000 figure by 13 to come up with the 4,200 average.
Wonder when they'll get that fixed, and wonder whose end the error is on. Also wonder if anybody on our end makes any effort to get such stuff corrected. The ESPN reporting site still shows capacity at Gill to be 9,604.
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Post by markarmour04 on Jan 6, 2020 10:10:19 GMT -8
I looked at the PAC 12 site, and discovered where their error is. They show us playing 13 home games, 1 away game, and 0 neutral site games, whereas it's actually 10 home and 4 neutral. They show total attendance of 56,000 and something, which is too high. They then divided the 56,000 figure by 13 to come up with the 4,200 average. Wonder when they'll get that fixed, and wonder whose end the error is on. Also wonder if anybody on our end makes any effort to get such stuff corrected. The ESPN reporting site still shows capacity at Gill to be 9,604. I believe that the Maui games are considered home games -- we were the host of the tournament. That leaves the Liberty game, which was truly neutral and is counted as home. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 6, 2020 10:21:02 GMT -8
Moore already had her degree, the one she will use on all resumes, etc., from an outstanding school. She could afford to slum for six months at uo, take six credit hours in some bogus made-up grad program to stay eligible, and then leave.
She just wants some bling after three disappointing years at USC. Think she will even mention uo on any employment applications?
Grad transfers are supposed to be allowed only for academic reasons. They are almost universally bogus, as the player immediately leaves school once his/her eligibility is complete.
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Post by shelby on Jan 6, 2020 10:28:35 GMT -8
Totally correct and agree . I would say that I believe the women fulfill the intent of the program more than the men. Could be wrong on that because there are a lot of different factors that affect each athlete ! My guess is based on more educational focus by women !
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Post by 411500 on Jan 6, 2020 10:52:52 GMT -8
Henry Skrimpshander writes: "Grad transfers are supposed to be allowed only for academic reasons. They are almost universally bogus, as the player immediately leaves school once his/her eligibility is complete."
Interesting observation. Do you have a reference for this info? Or is it based primarily on your observation of things?
I've been curious for some time now as to how many "Grad transfers" actually enter (and complete) a grad program in their new school....If you have info to share on this topic, please do....(I'm interested in this topic but have not been able to track down any meaningful data in its regard.)
GO BEAVS !!
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