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Post by castorcanadensis on Dec 19, 2019 15:02:21 GMT -8
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Post by beaverdude on Dec 19, 2019 15:42:04 GMT -8
Nope, not another dollar of mine goes to crApple.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Dec 19, 2019 18:06:56 GMT -8
Nope, not another dollar of mine goes to crApple. Facebook live better for you? |
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Post by castorcanadensis on Dec 19, 2019 18:07:46 GMT -8
Without Apple what would android copy? |
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Post by obf on Dec 19, 2019 20:20:21 GMT -8
Nope, not another dollar of mine goes to crApple. Facebook live better for you? Yes, a thousand times yes! |
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Post by obf on Dec 19, 2019 20:44:27 GMT -8
Without Apple what would android copy? Hahaha, your hilarious. I happily ackwoledge that Apple was innovative in the early hardware space (which has nothing to do with Android, an operating system), and clearly they are industrial design and marketing geniuses. However software is always a place they have lagged. Not that it seems to slow their cult of fan boys (another key Apple skill, religious leadership). Anymore though their innovation's even in the hardware space just can't keep up either, and really haven't for a long time. Not because they are really doing anything wrong, just because there are SOOO many more innovators that can innovate with Android and devices that run Android. That was the danger with keeping everything proprietary, and the ecosystem locked up tighter than fort Knox. And as long as that have the aforementioned Apple Army that will pay exhorbinant prices for Apple products, I guess they were right in that decision. And Android devices won't complain either because rising tides and all. But let's be real after the glory Apple years of the early aughts It's power has mostly been sales and marketing driven, not innovation or technology. In terms of software, one of the annoying (and also great) things about software is it is incredibly hard to protect, patent, copyright, etc. Lots of companies don't even try anymore. It is certainly an insestuous business. But to suggest that Android has copied more from iOS than vice versa is ludicrous. |
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Post by castorcanadensis on Dec 19, 2019 21:07:31 GMT -8
I don’t have a dog in the fight about Apple vs competitors, just thought it was news that someone not named ESPN and the pac-12 channel was interested in getting more eyeballs on the pac-12.
Take it or leave it.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 19, 2019 21:52:56 GMT -8
I don’t have a dog in the fight about Apple vs competitors, just thought it was news that someone not named ESPN and the pac-12 channel was interested in getting more eyeballs on the pac-12. Take it or leave it. It'd tick me off to have to pay for other subscriptions if somehow the Pac12 shows only certain games on specific carriers... Sling, need another for local/Fox/ABC etc., then some on Apple crap. |
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Dec 19, 2019 22:58:29 GMT -8
I don’t have a dog in the fight about Apple vs competitors, just thought it was news that someone not named ESPN and the pac-12 channel was interested in getting more eyeballs on the pac-12. Take it or leave it. It'd tick me off to have to pay for other subscriptions if somehow the Pac12 shows only certain games on specific carriers... Sling, need another for local/Fox/ABC etc., then some on Apple crap. If Pac12 network can get to a streaming and/or a-la-carte model while other conferences are tied to cable and dish contracts, the Pac will be ahead in the long run. This is not about us oldie boomers and gen-xers, this is about how conferences will sell content to the "screen" generations. For those that are still working in an office, ask your millennial and gen-z colleagues. Most of them don't have cable, or any satellite system. They have internet, and pick a streaming service like Netflix or cheaper. The west coast and NE conferences better be ahead in this, cause cable and satellite tv will die first in those markets. The SEC, ACC and even Big10 have a little more time, but not much. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 19, 2019 23:20:20 GMT -8
It'd tick me off to have to pay for other subscriptions if somehow the Pac12 shows only certain games on specific carriers... Sling, need another for local/Fox/ABC etc., then some on Apple crap. If Pac12 network can get to a streaming and/or a-la-carte model while other conferences are tied to cable and dish contracts, the Pac will be ahead in the long run. This is not about us oldie boomers and gen-xers, this is about how conferences will sell content to the "screen" generations. For those that are still working in an office, ask your millennial and gen-z colleagues. Most of them don't have cable, or any satellite system. They have internet, and pick a streaming service like Netflix or cheaper. The west coast and NE conferences better be ahead in this, cause cable and satellite tv will die first in those markets. The SEC, ACC and even Big10 have a little more time, but not much. Except your point has zero to do with my post. I Sling, Netflix, roku, local channels streamed. If the Pac12 splits their programming it's not a win for anyone. Not many stee going to subscribe to multiple options for just Pac12 games. Offering complete packages to multiple vendors, great. Partial to multiple not wise. Plus, the other conferences aren't lame. Their packaged programming outpaced the Pac12 initially in many facets. It's not like they'll stand pat. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 20, 2019 4:17:16 GMT -8
If Pac12 network can get to a streaming and/or a-la-carte model while other conferences are tied to cable and dish contracts, the Pac will be ahead in the long run. This is not about us oldie boomers and gen-xers, this is about how conferences will sell content to the "screen" generations. For those that are still working in an office, ask your millennial and gen-z colleagues. Most of them don't have cable, or any satellite system. They have internet, and pick a streaming service like Netflix or cheaper. The west coast and NE conferences better be ahead in this, cause cable and satellite tv will die first in those markets. The SEC, ACC and even Big10 have a little more time, but not much. Except your point has zero to do with my post. I Sling, Netflix, roku, local channels streamed. If the Pac12 splits their programming it's not a win for anyone. Not many stee going to subscribe to multiple options for just Pac12 games. Offering complete packages to multiple vendors, great. Partial to multiple not wise. Plus, the other conferences aren't lame. Their packaged programming outpaced the Pac12 initially in many facets. It's not like they'll stand pat. Why do you assume they’ll split their programming? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2019 8:24:16 GMT -8
Except your point has zero to do with my post. I Sling, Netflix, roku, local channels streamed. If the Pac12 splits their programming it's not a win for anyone. Not many stee going to subscribe to multiple options for just Pac12 games. Offering complete packages to multiple vendors, great. Partial to multiple not wise. Plus, the other conferences aren't lame. Their packaged programming outpaced the Pac12 initially in many facets. It's not like they'll stand pat. Why do you assume they’ll split their programming? Ah... because they do now. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 20, 2019 8:57:24 GMT -8
Why do you assume they’ll split their programming? Ah... because they do now. How so? I get the same multi-channel Pac 12 programming with Sling that I received from Comcast. I don’t have Dish, but I was under the assumption they carried all the Pac 12 channels as well. If a nationwide or worldwide streaming service picks up the network I would assume they pick up the full shebang as well. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2019 11:41:23 GMT -8
Ah... because they do now. How so? I get the same multi-channel Pac 12 programming with Sling that I received from Comcast. I don’t have Dish, but I was under the assumption they carried all the Pac 12 channels as well. If a nationwide or worldwide streaming service picks up the network I would assume they pick up the full shebang as well. Sling here too... but Pac12 has games on Fox, and could have games moved to ABC, etc depending on the importance of the matchup or Bowl games. Hence you'd have to have antenna or subscribe to local channel streaming ( I do thru Spectrum for $15 on top of my internet). Add Apple, the Pac12 and Apple do not have to carry the complete slate, just as the Pac12 network doesn't now. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 20, 2019 11:56:28 GMT -8
How so? I get the same multi-channel Pac 12 programming with Sling that I received from Comcast. I don’t have Dish, but I was under the assumption they carried all the Pac 12 channels as well. If a nationwide or worldwide streaming service picks up the network I would assume they pick up the full shebang as well. Sling here too... but Pac12 has games on Fox, and could have games moved to ABC, etc depending on the importance of the matchup or Bowl games. Hence you'd have to have antenna or subscribe to local channel streaming ( I do thru Spectrum for $15 on top of my internet). Add Apple, the Pac12 and Apple do not have to carry the complete slate, just as the Pac12 network doesn't now. Now I see what you are getting at. I look at the few games on Fox and ABC to be a bonus that currently is paying off. Getting more streamers will likely be what pays off for owning the network. Those streamers will be getting tons of material once they can get the network. I get Fox Sports on Sling as well, it should't be a problem. I did try running Sling directly through the onboard Roku on my LG TV and was having issues with it, through the Roku box no issues at all so no extra charge for Fox Sports. |
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