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Post by osbrawler on Dec 2, 2019 15:20:10 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 15:21:34 GMT -8
Like so many coaches Petersen seemed to have less success with his own recruits than with the players he inherited from the previous coach, although his own recruits were higher rated. Successful coaches make adjustments for the difference between the player you sign and the player that actually hits the field much later. I disagree entirely with your statement. Unless your claim is that the 2016 team was mostly Sark's players, the records disagree with your statement as well. Petersen at UW: 2014 8-6 2015 7-5 2016 12-2 2017 10-3 2018 10-4 Why do you need to disagree? You've already told me I'm wrong. So I'm wrong AND you disagree? Not very efficient, citrus bombardment. |
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 2, 2019 15:25:37 GMT -8
Like so many coaches Petersen seemed to have less success with his own recruits than with the players he inherited from the previous coach, although his own recruits were higher rated. Successful coaches make adjustments for the difference between the player you sign and the player that actually hits the field much later. I disagree entirely with your statement. Unless your claim is that the 2016 team was mostly Sark's players, the records disagree with your statement as well. Petersen at UW: 2014 8-6 2015 7-5 2016 12-2 2017 10-3 2018 10-4 Petersen is an excellent coach, and I commend him for walking away (for a while?). I have the same distaste for the direction of college football. It is an intense grind - especially recruiting - and if you aren’t willing to get dirty you are going to get passed up by other guys. I would say most of those other guys willing to play that game are good men who are willing to sell their soul at some level just to keep pace. In the end, I’d bet that very few actually “enjoy” their work. Even a guy like Saban, who has been incredibly successful and is very handsomely compensated, seldom evokes a joy. Most just don’t look like they’re having much fun. It has to take it’s toll. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 2, 2019 15:28:38 GMT -8
I disagree entirely with your statement. Unless your claim is that the 2016 team was mostly Sark's players, the records disagree with your statement as well. Petersen at UW: 2014 8-6 2015 7-5 2016 12-2 2017 10-3 2018 10-4 Why do you need to disagree? You've already told me I'm wrong. So I'm wrong AND you disagree? Not very efficient, citrus bombardment. New band name.....I call it. |
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Post by nexus73 on Dec 2, 2019 15:55:13 GMT -8
Glad we got JS when we did. Addition by subtraction helped us and hurt UW on O. Now we have the young rising star while the Huskies saw their old hand of a HC become burned out is what it seems like.
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 2, 2019 16:04:19 GMT -8
I disagree entirely with your statement. Unless your claim is that the 2016 team was mostly Sark's players, the records disagree with your statement as well. Petersen at UW: 2014 8-6 2015 7-5 2016 12-2 2017 10-3 2018 10-4 Why do you need to disagree? You've already told me I'm wrong. So I'm wrong AND you disagree? Not very efficient, citrus bombardment. I'm ashamed to admit that I spent a good 30-45 seconds trying to figure out if this was a lemon party joke or what |
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 2, 2019 16:08:25 GMT -8
Did Leach just let out a sigh of relief? Lake has been the guys shutting down Leach and mocking him about it, so I doubt that Leach is relieved. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 2, 2019 16:17:18 GMT -8
Did Bellotti get the chance to turn the job down before they named the replacement?
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2019 16:23:29 GMT -8
Why do you need to disagree? You've already told me I'm wrong. So I'm wrong AND you disagree? Not very efficient, citrus bombardment. New band name.....I call it. You're like butter today. You're on a roll... |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2019 16:24:31 GMT -8
Did Bellotti get the chance to turn the job down before they named the replacement? Not yet. He was cashing his monthly $44,000 PERS check. |
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Post by jrbeav59 on Dec 2, 2019 16:48:28 GMT -8
A big goof in that movie, which was full of them, the coast in Viet Nam faces East hard to watch a sunset there.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 2, 2019 17:21:56 GMT -8
Peterson is a phenomenal coach
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Post by biggieorange on Dec 2, 2019 17:41:11 GMT -8
I think Peterson also learned that you get a different "type" of player at UW vs Boise.
Sure his classes at UW were much higher rated, but he wasn't getting the academic causalities and non qualifiers that showed up in Boise with A GIANT CHIP on their shoulder like he had at BSU. This effects the mentality of a football team really for the better, instead he got a lot of guys that are enamored with the flash and dash of just being in Seattle and "getting chicks man". A lot of the things that help you get the best recruits isn't totally helpful in making them great players. Plus a lot like Mike Riley he wouldn't just flat out lie to players and say what he needed to say to get them to commit.
I think he also learned how much of a grind it is to have to play 9-10 LEGIT teams, not being able to coast for 8 games of the season and prep your 2nd and 3rd team against the Cal Polys and Utah States of the world, instead you gotta strap up or a OSU or CAL or Zona is gonna come eat your lunch.
I like Peterson, I think he is a heck of a coach, but I just didn't totally buy that he was going to make UW a National Powerhouse ala 1991.
Lastly, I don't think he is done coaching totally. 2-3 year break max.
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Dec 2, 2019 21:03:39 GMT -8
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 4, 2019 11:48:21 GMT -8
I think Peterson also learned that you get a different "type" of player at UW vs Boise. Sure his classes at UW were much higher rated, but he wasn't getting the academic causalities and non qualifiers that showed up in Boise with A GIANT CHIP on their shoulder like he had at BSU. This effects the mentality of a football team really for the better, instead he got a lot of guys that are enamored with the flash and dash of just being in Seattle and "getting chicks man". A lot of the things that help you get the best recruits isn't totally helpful in making them great players. Plus a lot like Mike Riley he wouldn't just flat out lie to players and say what he needed to say to get them to commit. I think he also learned how much of a grind it is to have to play 9-10 LEGIT teams, not being able to coast for 8 games of the season and prep your 2nd and 3rd team against the Cal Polys and Utah States of the world, instead you gotta strap up or a OSU or CAL or Zona is gonna come eat your lunch. I like Peterson, I think he is a heck of a coach, but I just didn't totally buy that he was going to make UW a National Powerhouse ala 1991. Lastly, I don't think he is done coaching totally. 2-3 year break max. I don't think he got a special type of player at BSU. Them getting questionable academic cases who couldn't qualify elsewhere is a total fugazi and we should stop propagating that piece of misinformation as a community. NCAA Division I requires 10 core courses to be completed prior to the seventh semester (seven of the 10 must be a combination of English, math or natural or physical science that meet the distribution requirements). These 10 courses become "locked in" at the start of the seventh semester and cannot be retaken for grade improvement. The whole Prop 48 for Division 1 went away in the early 2000's. They don't allow partial qualifiers or non qualifiers into school anymore, NCAA minimum requirements for Division 1 applies to all but Stanford and Cal in the Pac12. The other 10 schools adhere to NCAA minimums which are of course the same for Boise State. The difference between football at UW and at BSU was that the season isn't the same kind of grind on the bodies of the athletes that it is in the Pac12. You have got to have depth, luck, or some combination of both to win very many games in this league. When your schedule includes two or 3 P5 level schools per year, you have more latitude to develop prospects. BSU's preparation and execution under Peterson and having seasoned starters gave them more than a puncher's chance when they did step up a level in competition - and they played with an edge in those contests, having something to prove. Washington is a completely different program to manage. You have got to have depth and blue chip talent that can play early because you won't always get the time to develop them before they need to get pressed into duty. It's not "easier" to coach at UW, but I'm not convinced that it's more difficult either. |
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