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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 17, 2019 14:30:11 GMT -8
As a whole I haven't heard another team interview like the Beavs do. They are humble and almost always defer credit to their teammates. They are also very respectful of their opponents. Their coach does the same thing so they are just following his lead.
Most teams do the same, obviously including nike cc.
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Post by beaveragain on Feb 17, 2019 15:02:03 GMT -8
In Graves presser he commented that he felt Destiny's aggressiveness was to the detriment of the rest of her team. Now, I don't agree with that, others here do. But do you think Rueck would make a comment like that about another teams players? "Yeah, Boley attempted those 3's and we were able to come back and take the lead". I don't see Rueck, or any other coaches in the Pac-12 for that matter, saying something like that. Graves would about another team no problem.
Graves is a good coach, but he has some not to wonderful aspects to him.
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 17, 2019 16:55:21 GMT -8
As a whole I haven't heard another team interview like the Beavs do. They are humble and almost always defer credit to their teammates. They are also very respectful of their opponents. Their coach does the same thing so they are just following his lead. Most teams do the same, obviously including nike cc.
Our girls get a full day of training in how to conduct themselves in interviews and the like. It's our donations that make it possible.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 17, 2019 17:48:36 GMT -8
As a whole I haven't heard another team interview like the Beavs do. They are humble and almost always defer credit to their teammates. They are also very respectful of their opponents. Their coach does the same thing so they are just following his lead. Most teams do the same, obviously including nike cc.
Our girls get a full day of training in how to conduct themselves in interviews and the like. It's our donations that make it possible.
Money will spent, however they still have to be the type of person to give credit to others over themselves. |
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Post by rafer on Feb 17, 2019 18:08:15 GMT -8
If you fast foward toward near the end, Satou Sabally throws out a few compliments for the Beavs (only to say they are second to the *ucks) and then says “we’re better” I really couldn’t imagine one of our players saying they are better in a pregame interview. I don’t have a problem with it, I just don’t see an OSU player going out and saying that. And the quacks just keep topping the arrogance charts year after year. Sums up Graves and the quackdom ideology perfectly, "we're great and you others are just our fodder, thanks for playing". ftd!!! And you'll never hear that from any one on the WBB team.. |
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Post by rafer on Feb 17, 2019 18:14:39 GMT -8
Point of comparison: OSU WBB Season Tickets (General Admission) - $92. UO WBB - $49. For reserved, it's $150 vs $99. Rueck is generating more dollars for his school than Graves by a long shot. (And doing it in a much smaller town.) And what does Mr. Swoosh chip in?? They don't really GAS, Fill will just write another big check!! They drop the prices because there is NOT the interest in the area to pay more. Could be they know that nike will continue to give them more than they can spend, so lower the ticket price to get more folks that otherwise would not pay more, if that makes sense. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 17, 2019 18:15:37 GMT -8
9301 is capacity now. They have lost some seats converting bench seats to seat backs. There were a few no shows, but it was a great crowd Also lost 200-300 seats several years ago when the lower bowl was renovated, changing it from the old 9,600. Wider seats, and one row was removed all around so there was more room between the scorer's table and stands. Seats were lost a long time ago when the upstairs media area was added, and when the lower balcony opposite the benches was converted from bleachers to chairbacks, as Smails said. Some seating has been removed for several more aisles, and for TV camera landings, too. The bleacher seating was reconfigured from 16 or 18 inches per seat to 20 or 22, and that makes for fewer seats. Gill is plenty big enough for us. And last night it was great, sounded, felt, smelled and rocked like a college basketball arena should, not like that big, sterile Costco warehouse called TTATT Court. |
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Post by beav74 on Feb 17, 2019 18:24:16 GMT -8
“It’s phenomenal,” Graves said. “A state our size, we’re not one of the bigger ones, so to have two elite programs and programs that aren’t going anywhere ... It’s not like we’re just flashes in the pan." I think that's just a little premature Kelly! You're right now just a flash in the pan. Let's see how well your program does in the next 4-6 years. If you make it to the NCAA tournament 2018-2025.....then you might can say " It’s not like we’re just flashes in the pan." Some other program up the road has already accomplished 8 straight years. They’re going to win the conference two years in a row. That’s not exactly a “flash in the pan” Yes...two years in a row with the same team. If they win the conference when they lose the remaining players of that great recruiting class (Ionescu, Hebard, and those that left), then I will agree that they're not a "flash in the pan." Oregon State has done quite well after losing Weisner, Hunter, Weise, Gulich and Hamblin! Not just a "flash in the pan." What will Oregon accomplish in 2011 and beyond? Maybe be more than a "flash in the pan" and maybe not." Time will tell.
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Post by orangeexpress on Feb 17, 2019 20:44:26 GMT -8
I will add I also think Graves took a cheap shot with his Dutch Bros promotion remark. Somewhere, I saw a screenshot of Civil War ticket prices for MKA in their effort to make it a sellout, of $2 and $3 for bench seats near the top of the arena I suppose. Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones, or something like that. Graves may be a good coach but he often comes across as an insecure DB. I also recall him taking a shot at OSU after we lost to Gonzaga in the 2nd round of the tourney a few years ago |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 17, 2019 20:57:15 GMT -8
9301 is capacity now. They have lost some seats converting bench seats to seat backs. There were a few no shows, but it was a great crowd People have gotten wider. |
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Post by jefframp on Feb 18, 2019 6:42:15 GMT -8
9301 is capacity now. They have lost some seats converting bench seats to seat backs. There were a few no shows, but it was a great crowd People have gotten wider. And some people's avatars have gotten uglier! LOL |
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Post by willtalk on Feb 18, 2019 11:37:28 GMT -8
In Graves presser he commented that he felt Destiny's aggressiveness was to the detriment of the rest of her team. Now, I don't agree with that, others here do. But do you think Rueck would make a comment like that about another teams players? "Yeah, Boley attempted those 3's and we were able to come back and take the lead". I don't see Rueck, or any other coaches in the Pac-12 for that matter, saying something like that. Graves would about another team no problem. Graves is a good coach, but he has some not to wonderful aspects to him. I totally agree in respect to your comments about Greaves. Still he is right about Slocum. Offense is often a matter of trade- offs. Most people usually see one end of the trade off yet ignore what it costs. Now aggressiveness might not be the right term, because Slocums aggressiveness is an asset. What he should be referring to is her lack of creating and maintaining a balanced offense. Her offensive dominance works when she is on and there is a proper time and place for her to exercise it. But not specifically right from the start. Ironically Destiny's best offensive games have been when she did not force her shots, rather when she played within the team offensive flow. Her finding that balance is still a work in progress. She often regresses into shooting guard form instead of playing the point. Why do you think KMac's offensive production has been down? Why do you think she produced in the Oregon game. Because she was allowed to have the ball in her hands sometimes. Most of the year she has been frozen out of the offense. Some of that was because she is not really comfortable with the up tempo style that the team plays now. The same could be said for Corosdale. She was very effective shooting from the corner last season. She seldom gets the ball there this season. It's not just getting shots but whether you are getting the ball in rhythm when you are open. In a recent game I saw KMac open three times for 3's being passed up by the ball handler who drove to the basket. When she finally did get the ball, she rushed an out of rhythm shot and missed. People that handle the ball have the responsibility to hit open spot up shooters when ever they can. This is one way you create rhythm and a balanced offense. I wanted to post on this issue for some time but you gave me the opening. It is a point guards primary responsibility to create offensive flow to get all the scorers involved. This is especially true on a team like Oregon that is loaded with good shooters. There is a time and place for taking over and going one on one, but only once rhythm has been established or when the clock is winding down. Definitely not at the start of games. I have never been a fan of shoot first scoring point guards. A lot of this type of play is a carry over from high school. On high school teams talented players often are the only really good players on their team and get in the habit of carrying the offensive load because either they can or need to. No player ever born is always on. In order to assure consistency the offensive load has to be shared. Once Jordan learned that lesson the Bulls dynasty was born. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 18, 2019 12:05:22 GMT -8
In Graves presser he commented that he felt Destiny's aggressiveness was to the detriment of the rest of her team. Now, I don't agree with that, others here do. But do you think Rueck would make a comment like that about another teams players? "Yeah, Boley attempted those 3's and we were able to come back and take the lead". I don't see Rueck, or any other coaches in the Pac-12 for that matter, saying something like that. Graves would about another team no problem. Graves is a good coach, but he has some not to wonderful aspects to him. I totally agree in respect to your comments about Greaves. Still he is right about Slocum. Offense is often a matter of trade- offs. Most people usually see one end of the trade off yet ignore what it costs. Now aggressiveness might not be the right term, because Slocums aggressiveness is an asset. What he should be referring to is her lack of creating and maintaining a balanced offense. Her offensive dominance works when she is on and there is a proper time and place for her to exercise it. But not specifically right from the start. Ironically Destiny's best offensive games have been when she did not force her shots, rather when she played within the team offensive flow. Her finding that balance is still a work in progress. She often regresses into shooting guard form instead of playing the point. Why do you think KMac's offensive production has been down? Why do you think she produced in the Oregon game. Because she was allowed to have the ball in her hands sometimes. Most of the year she has been frozen out of the offense. Some of that was because she is not really comfortable with the up tempo style that the team plays now. The same could be said for Corosdale. She was very effective shooting from the corner last season. She seldom gets the ball there this season. It's not just getting shots but whether you are getting the ball in rhythm when you are open. In a recent game I saw KMac open three times for 3's being passed up by the ball handler who drove to the basket. When she finally did get the ball, she rushed an out of rhythm shot and missed. People that handle the ball have the responsibility to hit open spot up shooters when ever they can. This is one way you create rhythm and a balanced offense. I wanted to post on this issue for some time but you gave me the opening. It is a point guards primary responsibility to create offensive flow to get all the scorers involved. This is especially true on a team like Oregon that is loaded with good shooters. There is a time and place for taking over and going one on one, but only once rhythm has been established or when the clock is winding down. Definitely not at the start of games. I have never been a fan of shoot first scoring point guards. A lot of this type of play is a carry over from high school. On high school teams talented players often are the only really good players on their team and get in the habit of carrying the offensive load because either they can or need to. No player ever born is always on. In order to assure consistency the offensive load has to be shared. Once Jordan learned that lesson the Bulls dynasty was born. It has been my point/issue since I saw Destiny practicing last year and some pickup ball carrying over to this year. She dominates the ball. I get that wins are the ultimate stat, but the current team is not winning "like" it use to. Ball and player movement was at a premium. This year it has taken a backseat to the dribble, drive, stall, attract, dish... but all rhythm and movement is minimal. Shooters (like Katy) are catching the ball flat footed and in poor position to shoot because of the passing angles created by drives that are too deep and/or stalled. The dribbling/over dribbling has begun to trickle to others... the point being there is far less movement, good picks, and easy back doors looks. Shot clock violations seem to happen more often and typically after the first 15 seconds is spent dribbling to create nothing. OSU is simply easier to guard than in the past and it's not just because of a consistent post presence. To SR's credit he is trying to incorporate a great player's skill set into his more pattern offensive scheme. At times I think he's as frustrated as Destiny is when she sits for periods. The great news is he's a true teacher of the game and next year will truly show a better integration of Destiny's skills with SR's game plan. However, I do feel Katy Mac has been the player to "suffer" most this year. I never saw her as some here did being an Al-Pac12 type, but she has had a down year while still being a positive influence and leader. Her game is predicated on ball and player movement, catching in spots, and using her size and power dribble to create fades over opponents. She was never aggressive anyway and this year the style of play seems to have her exceptionally passive. I have not talked to her Dad lately, but I know he saw the same thing early on. But, she is not the type of go out and go one on one... her biggest asset is being in the right spot at the right time, receiving a pass in motion and hitting clutch hitting shots. GO BEAVS... |
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 18, 2019 15:29:00 GMT -8
I'm not going to disagree on much of what has been said regarding Destiny, and I'm sure this is why she only played 25 minutes against ducks (much to the displeasure of some friends and family). Give Destiny credit for being a total team player while on the bench and for supporting the team, and especially Aleah.
With that said, some may complain that Destiny has changed the Beaver offense a bit, but baseba1111 is correct, that with this year's experience as a team, and SR's coaching, next year should show some real benefits.
Now, one more thing, we are acting as if the offense isn't as good as year's past, but this team is scoring more, and until recently shooting as well as the past great teams. I'm not sure how this team would look in Pac-12 play with Kat, but I think she would have made a ton of difference, especially on some of these bad shooting nights.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 18, 2019 16:45:08 GMT -8
They’re going to win the conference two years in a row. That’s not exactly a “flash in the pan” Yes...two years in a row with the same team. If they win the conference when they lose the remaining players of that great recruiting class (Ionescu, Hebard, and those that left), then I will agree that they're not a "flash in the pan." Oregon State has done quite well after losing Weisner, Hunter, Weise, Gulich and Hamblin! Not just a "flash in the pan." What will Oregon accomplish in 2011 and beyond? Maybe be more than a "flash in the pan" and maybe not." Time will tell.
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