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Post by sparty on May 16, 2022 11:40:07 GMT -8
Its going to be a long season. Two years out until we can contend again for pac-12. |
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Post by qbeaver on May 16, 2022 11:49:02 GMT -8
The conference has gotten tougher. I don't have expectations that we will beat Stanford for the conference title. Making the tournament should be the goal every year,just like baseball should have a goal of Omaha every year. In Scott I trust...
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Post by rgeorge on May 16, 2022 11:50:13 GMT -8
Its going to be a long season. Two years out until we can contend again for pac-12. And, even that depends on some teams stagnating a bit, and others not continuing to improve. No way I'd have believed OSU falling behind WSU, Buffs and Utes in WBB. I mean one, but all three??? |
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Post by rmancarl on May 16, 2022 12:18:11 GMT -8
Its going to be a long season. Two years out until we can contend again for pac-12. This is the recruiting board, so we should probably take this to the main board, but I will say that in the age of the transfer portal, a team can become a contender in just one year. There were plenty of players available to make any team a contender next year for their conference title. SR had his shot this offseason, and so far the results are still a bit lacking. Let's see what else he can do in the next few weeks. |
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Post by qbeaver on May 16, 2022 12:40:17 GMT -8
If Aaron and Yeaney are healthy,I think those two are great additions. Veteran players. Add those to the four highly regarded frosh,and Von Oelhoffen,that is a great start to a solid team.
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Post by grad1973 on May 17, 2022 18:31:31 GMT -8
We don’t have a adequate sub at post. This is a weakness when the only other two semi bigs are brand new freshman. Compare that to Oregon or Stanford we will be struggling. We are also one injury away with only three bigs of being shut down up front. We have also been shut down in the portal competition thus far and most posts are gone. Arizona has Ware and Reese and a s%#t load of standout guards who can run the court.
Anybody care to discuss UCLA?
All I can say is ouch.
Cal and USC have met needs with the portal. That’s six teams possibly in front of us. Rough sailing folks. Guess what we lost our two starting posts!
Still think there is something going on that needs to help solve this. In some ways are recruiting is suffering. Rueck has done great but something might have changed? I don’t know but I see symptoms that don’t boad well with us. We need some help. Sorry to be a bit pessimistic.
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Post by rmancarl on May 17, 2022 20:12:15 GMT -8
We don’t have a adequate sub at post. This is a weakness when the only other two semi bigs are brand new freshman. Compare that to Oregon or Stanford we will be struggling. We are also one injury away with only three bigs of being shut down up front. We have also been shut down in the portal competition thus far and most posts are gone. Arizona has Ware and Reese and a s%#t load of standout guards who can run the court. Anybody care to discuss UCLA? All I can say is ouch. Cal and USC have met needs with the portal. That’s six teams possibly in front of us. Rough sailing folks. Guess what we lost our two starting posts! Still think there is something going on that needs to help solve this. In some ways are recruiting is suffering. Rueck has done great but something might have changed? I don’t know but I see symptoms that don’t boad well with us. We need some help. Sorry to be a bit pessimistic. Again, this is the recruiting board, and this thread is about 2022 recruiting, but your post is about the portal. Let's just say that although I agree with you to a degree on most points, it's not necessarily fair to judge what happens with the portal, when there is still there may still be additions to the team this summer. I'll be surprised if the Beavs don' tadd at least one forward over the summer. |
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Post by jdogge on May 17, 2022 23:11:15 GMT -8
If Aaron and Yeaney are healthy,I think those two are great additions. Veteran players. Add those to the four highly regarded frosh,and Von Oelhoffen,that is a great start to a solid team. Don't forget Jelena. |
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Post by qbeaver on May 18, 2022 7:16:40 GMT -8
If Aaron and Yeaney are healthy,I think those two are great additions. Veteran players. Add those to the four highly regarded frosh,and Von Oelhoffen,that is a great start to a solid team. Don't forget Jelena. I just missed her. No disrespect. I'm just saying we will have talent to compete for the sky Is falling crowd. Other top Pac-12 schools have lost a lot too...Arizona,uo,etc. Scott has a great track record. A healthy roster last year,and Aleah coming back would have changed a lot. We're throwing all the good will Scott has earned pulling the osu WBB program out of the trash when he started when we could barely field a team having just a few scholarship players and had to have a try out. I was there...incredible transformation of a program. |
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Post by grad1973 on May 18, 2022 7:55:58 GMT -8
If Aaron and Yeaney are healthy,I think those two are great additions. Veteran players. Add those to the four highly regarded frosh,and Von Oelhoffen,that is a great start to a solid team. Don't forget Jelena. How is the portal not recruiting? It’s not conventional but these players have to be signed in order to play. There’s been a lot of discussion about how the Arizona girls coach conducts herself with regard to the portal. It’s because recruiting is turning to that venue also. She has become a student of that to help her fill her needs. We all sat and watched her and a few others jump right in on players as they declared. Portal is recruiting using aggressive tactics instead of developing connections. That to is recruiting now also. Become a student of it and jump in their and bid to get. We shall see how good or bad this is. The ncaa can put the stop on it if it gets to favoring just certain colleges. |
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Post by qbeaver on May 18, 2022 8:11:44 GMT -8
How is the portal not recruiting? It’s not conventional but these players have to be signed in order to play. There’s been a lot of discussion about how the Arizona girls coach conducts herself with regard to the portal. It’s because recruiting is turning to that venue also. She has become a student of that to help her fill her needs. We all sat and watched her and a few others jump right in on players as they declared. Portal is recruiting using aggressive tactics instead of developing connections. That to is recruiting now also. Become a student of it and jump in their and bid to get. We shall see how good or bad this is. The ncaa can put the stop on it if it gets to favoring just certain colleges. We have seen that not all players in the portal are a good fit. Not in WBB per se,but in other college sports. Athletes leave their original schools for various reasons. Are the athletes good team mates,unselfish,hard workers,etc. Adding the right talent that meshes with your current roster is more important that just adding highly regarded players. The Arizona WBB coach was the new flavor of the day when she was in the national title game a couple years ago,but what has happened since? Didn't the Cats lose around 7 players who were on their roster last year? Either they didn't evaluate well,or athletes felt they could find a better place to play next year. What type of team they have next year and beyond is up in the air. Portal players are hit and miss. Just like high schoolers. The portal is a new recruiting option. You need to be smart about who you add. I think Scott would rather get to know the athletes he is recruiting versus jumping on a talented girl in the portal and not know about the other stuff besides their ability to play on the court. |
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Post by bvrbooster on May 18, 2022 8:54:28 GMT -8
How is the portal not recruiting? It’s not conventional but these players have to be signed in order to play. There’s been a lot of discussion about how the Arizona girls coach conducts herself with regard to the portal. It’s because recruiting is turning to that venue also. She has become a student of that to help her fill her needs. We all sat and watched her and a few others jump right in on players as they declared. Portal is recruiting using aggressive tactics instead of developing connections. That to is recruiting now also. Become a student of it and jump in their and bid to get. We shall see how good or bad this is. The ncaa can put the stop on it if it gets to favoring just certain colleges. The NCAA is a pathetic organization, and they won't do a thing to undo any harm they have caused. The toothpaste is out of the tube, and they won't try to put it back in. Favoring just certain colleges? Anybody with an 8th grade education could see that NIL would do exactly that. They could see it on the very day it was proposed. The NCAA did it anyway. They won't walk that one back either. |
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Post by rmancarl on May 18, 2022 9:23:41 GMT -8
How is the portal not recruiting? It’s not conventional but these players have to be signed in order to play. There’s been a lot of discussion about how the Arizona girls coach conducts herself with regard to the portal. It’s because recruiting is turning to that venue also. She has become a student of that to help her fill her needs. We all sat and watched her and a few others jump right in on players as they declared. Portal is recruiting using aggressive tactics instead of developing connections. That to is recruiting now also. Become a student of it and jump in their and bid to get. We shall see how good or bad this is. The ncaa can put the stop on it if it gets to favoring just certain colleges. I'll agree that finding players in the portal is recruiting, just not recruiting of High School players, and not with the same rules coaches have for recruiting HS players. Personally, I think recruiting HS players, retention of the players you get, and finding portal players to fill your needs, are all of equal importance in today's game. SR is excelling in recruiting HS players, but in recent years retention of players, and finding high quality players in the portal have not been a strength. There is still time to land a couple more good portal players this summer, but many of the best have already found a home. |
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Post by beaverfever148 on May 18, 2022 11:12:32 GMT -8
It sounds like someone needs to make a thread titled “Transfer Portal Recruiting.” The real issue is that this discussion is happening in the 2022 recruiting class thread.
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Post by jdogge on May 18, 2022 11:51:24 GMT -8
How is the portal not recruiting? It’s not conventional but these players have to be signed in order to play. There’s been a lot of discussion about how the Arizona girls coach conducts herself with regard to the portal. It’s because recruiting is turning to that venue also. She has become a student of that to help her fill her needs. We all sat and watched her and a few others jump right in on players as they declared. Portal is recruiting using aggressive tactics instead of developing connections. That to is recruiting now also. Become a student of it and jump in their and bid to get. We shall see how good or bad this is. The ncaa can put the stop on it if it gets to favoring just certain colleges. The NCAA is a pathetic organization, and they won't do a thing to undo any harm they have caused. The toothpaste is out of the tube, and they won't try to put it back in. Favoring just certain colleges? Anybody with an 8th grade education could see that NIL would do exactly that. They could see it on the very day it was proposed. The NCAA did it anyway. They won't walk that one back either. It wasn't up to the NCAA. NIL is an implementation of NCAA v. Alston whereby the SCOTUS ruled that compensation limitations violated federal anti-trust laws. |
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