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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 9, 2024 18:24:37 GMT -8
Can someone explain the ncaa tournament sites? I see portland listed but people are talking about hosting in corvallis? TIA! Portland is one of two sites hosting Regional Finals.
Teams seeded #1-#4 host first and second round games. That's why the Beavs want to get a top 4 seed.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2024 18:26:01 GMT -8
Can someone explain the ncaa tournament sites? I see portland listed but people are talking about hosting in corvallis? TIA! First 2 rounds are at 16 top seeds sites. We will host 3 other teams. Winners move on to 2 regional sites, one of which is in PDX. Unfortunately, if we win our first two games, we are unlikely to go to PDX.
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 9, 2024 18:51:00 GMT -8
Can someone explain the ncaa tournament sites? I see portland listed but people are talking about hosting in corvallis? TIA! First 2 rounds are at 16 top seeds sites. We will host 3 other teams. Winners move on to 2 regional sites, one of which is in PDX. Unfortunately, if we win our first two games, we are unlikely to go to PDX. Yep, i’m thinking Stanford and USC heading to Portland, UCLA and the Beavs off to Albany.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2024 18:52:07 GMT -8
First 2 rounds are at 16 top seeds sites. We will host 3 other teams. Winners move on to 2 regional sites, one of which is in PDX. Unfortunately, if we win our first two games, we are unlikely to go to PDX. Yep, i’m thinking Stanford and USC heading to Portland, UCLA and the Beavs off to Albany. Well, at least they’ll only be playing 10 miles away 😅
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Post by standerd on Mar 9, 2024 22:22:33 GMT -8
AdLily might have been the prescription. The doctor chose not to prescribe. Lily is liability on defense. She is still working out the nuances of switches, zones et al. Stanford's offense was out hustling the Beavs in the latter part of the game. For the most part, the best combination/hybrid of Beav offense and defense was on the floor. A missed lay-up here, a bad pass there, missed switch on defense, missed rebound... normal parts of the game that become critical in the 4th quarter. The Beavs were so very close in the 4th but (as another poster said) Stanford has experience-plus and handled the situation. I don't agree with your assessment of Lily. However, even if she might be a defensive liability as you propose (although I saw other Beavs struggling to keep up with Stanford guards), Lily remains the best 3-pt shooter in the PAC 12 (47.6%), and to not play her in this game was IMO a major blunder!
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Post by markwbeaver on Mar 10, 2024 0:45:02 GMT -8
I guess this board is made to the second-guess the coaches. But it should be noted that the Beavers had played Stanford in the last week of of the regular season just a few days before. Lily played 31 minutes, and clearly Stanford noticed that Lily was the Pac-12's best 3-point shooter and were under their own coaching instructions not to let her get clean shots. She went 0-3 from three-point land, and two of them were quite rushed.
Of course the Beavers had plays designed to spring her free, and most other teams in the conference would eventually break down at some point and give Lily the split-second to get off her shot. We know that Stanford is always incredibly disciplined on defense, and they certainly were against Lily in the earlier game.
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Post by standerd on Mar 10, 2024 9:38:59 GMT -8
I guess this board is made to the second-guess the coaches. But it should be noted that the Beavers had played Stanford in the last week of of the regular season just a few days before. Lily played 31 minutes, and clearly Stanford noticed that Lily was the Pac-12's best 3-point shooter and were under their own coaching instructions not to let her get clean shots. She went 0-3 from three-point land, and two of them were quite rushed. Of course the Beavers had plays designed to spring her free, and most other teams in the conference would eventually break down at some point and give Lily the split-second to get off her shot. We know that Stanford is always incredibly disciplined on defense, and they certainly were against Lily in the earlier game. But to not even try? Interesting observation/rationalization. For example, Stanford's Hannah Jump in the Cal game before OSU played them: 0 pts in 36 minutes, 0-2 FG, 0 3 pt attempts; in OSU game: 20 pts in 40 minutes, 8-13 FG, 4-7 3 pt. What a difference a game makes. I'm thinking of the adage: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 10, 2024 10:06:30 GMT -8
I guess this board is made to the second-guess the coaches. But it should be noted that the Beavers had played Stanford in the last week of of the regular season just a few days before. Lily played 31 minutes, and clearly Stanford noticed that Lily was the Pac-12's best 3-point shooter and were under their own coaching instructions not to let her get clean shots. She went 0-3 from three-point land, and two of them were quite rushed. Of course the Beavers had plays designed to spring her free, and most other teams in the conference would eventually break down at some point and give Lily the split-second to get off her shot. We know that Stanford is always incredibly disciplined on defense, and they certainly were against Lily in the earlier game. But to not even try? Interesting observation/rationalization. For example, Stanford's Hannah Jump in the Cal game before OSU played them: 0 pts in 36 minutes, 0-2 FG, 0 3 pt attempts; in OSU game: 20 pts in 40 minutes, 8-13 FG, 4-7 3 pt. What a difference a game makes. I'm thinking of the adage: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." In the aftermath of any loss, conjectures over "we might have won if only X" are to be expected. Whether or not they are valuable is the inevitable corollary conjecture. But that's what message boards are for.
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Post by steinlager on Mar 10, 2024 10:41:11 GMT -8
I guess this board is made to the second-guess the coaches. But it should be noted that the Beavers had played Stanford in the last week of of the regular season just a few days before. Lily played 31 minutes, and clearly Stanford noticed that Lily was the Pac-12's best 3-point shooter and were under their own coaching instructions not to let her get clean shots. She went 0-3 from three-point land, and two of them were quite rushed. Of course the Beavers had plays designed to spring her free, and most other teams in the conference would eventually break down at some point and give Lily the split-second to get off her shot. We know that Stanford is always incredibly disciplined on defense, and they certainly were against Lily in the earlier game. But to not even try? Interesting observation/rationalization. For example, Stanford's Hannah Jump in the Cal game before OSU played them: 0 pts in 36 minutes, 0-2 FG, 0 3 pt attempts; in OSU game: 20 pts in 40 minutes, 8-13 FG, 4-7 3 pt. What a difference a game makes. I'm thinking of the adage: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." Fine line between try, try again and the definition of insanity.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 10, 2024 11:17:28 GMT -8
But to not even try? Interesting observation/rationalization. For example, Stanford's Hannah Jump in the Cal game before OSU played them: 0 pts in 36 minutes, 0-2 FG, 0 3 pt attempts; in OSU game: 20 pts in 40 minutes, 8-13 FG, 4-7 3 pt. What a difference a game makes. I'm thinking of the adage: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." Fine line between try, try again and the definition of insanity. Funny thing about adages.
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Post by osu82 on Mar 10, 2024 11:31:09 GMT -8
If you put Hansford in to shoot spot up 3’s, who do you sit? Since it’s “Monday” armchair time.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 10, 2024 14:07:06 GMT -8
If you put Hansford in to shoot spot up 3’s, who do you sit? Since it’s “Monday” armchair time. AJ or Dom since they needed 3's and not 2's....ARRRRGH I did it.
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Post by grayman on Mar 10, 2024 14:09:48 GMT -8
If you put Hansford in to shoot spot up 3’s, who do you sit? Since it’s “Monday” armchair time. A few in this thread were complaining about Rueck keeping Paurova in the game and wanting Lily. Not to be mean, but I'm not sure what game they were watching. I wouldn't have had a problem with Lily playing but not instead of Paurova. Paurova scored 10 points and had six assists and five rebounds. IMO she had the third-best game for the Beavers after Beers and TVO. Maybe second-best. TVO was 5-7 from the field and hit her only 3-point shot and had seven rebounds. Timea was 3-12 from the field. Marotte (ahem) was 0-4, 0 points. Hunter was 4-13 from the field and missed all three 3-point tries. So, yeah, I guess SR could have played Lily to see if she could get some shots to fall. But again, not instead of Paurova.
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Post by standerd on Mar 10, 2024 14:14:09 GMT -8
If you put Hansford in to shoot spot up 3’s, who do you sit? Since it’s “Monday” armchair time. I'll give it a try. First, some of the talk on this board all season has been about the growing awareness of the talent and depth of this OSU team, supported by the fact that the Beavs are rated 22nd (NCAA D1) in the nation for bench points scored per game (average 25+). This is the best in the PAC 12 and no other PAC 12 team is even rated in the top 50 (next closest PAC 12 are Colorado at 99th (20) and Stanford at 117 (19)). So there is that and it has been pretty consistent all year. So my question is what was the rotation during the season that made that all possible, and why did that change against Stanford? All kinds of reasons I'm sure. My armchair bit is that instead of trusting and continuing to tap into that strength, the more cautious and conservative path was selected, and that didn't work either. But we'll really never know! As one poster has stated (paraphrasing) We lost and so must move on.
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Post by standerd on Mar 10, 2024 14:17:32 GMT -8
If you put Hansford in to shoot spot up 3’s, who do you sit? Since it’s “Monday” armchair time. A few in this thread were complaining about Rueck keeping Paurova in the game and wanting Lily. Not to be mean, but I'm not sure what game they were watching. I wouldn't have had a problem with Lily playing but not instead of Paurova. Paurova scored 10 points and had six assists and five rebounds. IMO she had the third-best game for the Beavers after Beers and TVO. Maybe second-best. TVO was 5-7 from the field and hit her only 3-point shot and had seven rebounds. Timea was 3-12 from the field. Marotte (ahem) was 0-4, 0 points. Hunter was 4-13 from the field and missed all three 3-point tries. So, yeah, I guess SR could have played Lily to see if she could get some shots to fall. But again, not instead of Paurova. I have to agree with you. There were, as you have stated, other, however limited, options.
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