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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 3, 2018 6:16:45 GMT -8
I'd want a player that has OSU as their first choice and not their back up plan. But I do understand what you mean, best to tilt the playing surface to your advantage. Sydney Wiese dreamed of playing for UConn. OSU was her backup plan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 6:20:33 GMT -8
I'd want a player that has OSU as their first choice and not their back up plan. But I do understand what you mean, best to tilt the playing surface to your advantage. Sydney Wiese dreamed of playing for UConn. OSU was her backup plan. That always bugged me. Sydney is a smart girl, but the lure of playing for a national championship and with the best players in the nation pulled her towards UCONN in spite of the fact that Auriemma is narcissistic jerk and has a history of sexual harrassment. Says something about priorities.... EDIT: My comment should have been directed at the students who go to UConn who are aware of his history, as I'm sure some are. My apologies to Sydney, who was surely just naive.
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Post by bennyskid on Jul 3, 2018 6:53:57 GMT -8
You do know that the harassment suit against Auriemma was thrown out . . . right? I get that you don't like the guy - and not without reason - but most people don't see him that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 8:44:48 GMT -8
You do know that the harassment suit against Auriemma was thrown out . . . right? I get that you don't like the guy - and not without reason - but most people don't see him that way. Now which do you think is more likely, regardless of whether the suit was thrown out? That Auriemma was guilty, or that the lady fabricated the complaint? Auriemma's perpetual smirk should be a clue to what lies beneath. Here is a summary of the allegations, which are very specific. Auriemma is rich and able to hire the best lawyers, so it's no wonder that he got off, and complaints against high profile people like that jackass have to meet a higher threshold, unfortunately. In a widely publicized lawsuit filed in June 2012 against Geno Auriemma, who led the University of Connecticut women's basketball team to its eighth NCAA championship this season and coached the United States women's national basketball team to the gold medal in the London Olympics, Kelley Hardwick said she had been sexually harassed.Ms. Hardwick was employed by the National Basketball Association as a director in its security department. She said that, in October 2009, she was providing security oversight to Women's National Basketball Association players who were traveling with the national team to Russia when Mr. Auriemma, the team's head coach, followed her to her hotel room and forcibly tried to kiss her on the mouth, according to last week's ruling by the New York Supreme Court in Kelley D.F. Hardwick. v. Geno Auriemma et al.She charged that during subsequent trips “he continued to harass her because she spurned his advances,” says the ruling by Judge Cynthia S. Kern. Ms. Hardwick said the situation culminated with Mr. Auriemma telling James Tooley, executive director of the Colorado Springs, Colo.-based USA Basketball Inc., who is a defendant in the case, that he did not want Ms. Hardwick to attend the London Olympic Games and provide security for the national team.And why was it thrown out? Not for lack of merit, but because of a jurisidiction issue: Without considering the merits of Ms. Hardwick's charges, Judge Kern ruled the court had no jurisdiction over the claims. The complaint “contains allegations of discrimination which took place outside of New York by foreign corporations or non-residents,” said Judge Kern in her ruling last week.“Even if the initial decision to remove plaintiff for the London Olympics work detail was made in New York, the impact of such a decision was felt in London, not New York,” she said in her ruling.Ms. Hardwick filed a notice Wednesday that she planned to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court's appellate division.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 9:26:19 GMT -8
Now which do you think is more likely, regardless of whether the suit was thrown out? That Auriemma was guilty, or that the lady fabricated the complaint? How about neither/both?
She resigned from her position less than a year after her lawsuit got tossed. You should give that equal weight. Then give some weight to this: She is a former New York City detective and law school graduate. She would appear to be an upstanding citizen. Ask yourself: What would have caused a successful attractive lady to despise Mr. Auriemma so much that she would fabricate a story like that? Had she made accusations like that against the many high profile people she'd had contact with ever before? Had she ever been institutionalized for a mental disorder? Why single out Mr. Auriemma? Judge Judy could figure it out, whether you can or not.
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Post by bennyskid on Jul 3, 2018 9:48:02 GMT -8
All this is beside the point. This came up because you stated that it bothers you that Syd doesn't see this your way. That's not fair to Syd. It's possible to like Geno at a professional level, to be willing to ignore a he-said-she-said situation that was thrown out of court, and still be a good - even great - person. And Syd is a great person.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 10:01:35 GMT -8
All this is beside the point. This came up because you stated that it bothers you that Syd doesn't see this your way. That's not fair to Syd. It's possible to like Geno at a professional level, to be willing to ignore a he-said-she-said situation that was thrown out of court, and still be a good - even great - person. And Syd is a great person. I agree about Syd. She was probably ignorant of his ugly history and lascivious character and thus innocent. Had she ever really gotten to know him, she might have had second thoughts about UConn. Sorry for casting aspersions on her "priorities". For a kid like that, you would expect her parents to protect her, but the media is showering him with praise constantly for the simple reason that UConn has been successful and therefore even parents are not usually armed with the information that would help them avoid the SOB. The worship of success is blind, even here, based on how people rally to defend Auriemma.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jul 3, 2018 20:58:27 GMT -8
My best guess is that the vast majority of kids like Syd grew up dreaming of playing for Connecticut. At some point, for all but a few, reality came home to roost and they went to other schools. In any given year, about 96% of the top 100 recruits in the nation do not get an offer from UConn. But how many of those 96 do you suppose entered their sophomore year picturing themselves in Storrs? Junior year? Even senior year?
For that matter, how many never get an offer from what would have been their first choice? How many look elsewhere because their number 1 also offered another 4 or 5 star who plays the same position? How many verbally commit and then have a change of heart.
Sydney didn't grow up dreaming of playing for Scott Rueck at OSU. So what? She was probably only peripherally aware of the OSU program, and had never heard of Scott Rueck. But she wound up here, and she and the others put the fannies in the seats, the banners on the wall, and the program on the map. Now young girls do grow up dreaming of playing for Scott at OSU, and much of that is due to Sydney.
Personally, I wouldn't care if she only came here because she did something really bad when she was 17, and a judge sentenced her to 4 years in Corvallis. I'm glad she came, she's glad she came, and all of you are glad she came.
And, if it's all the same to the rest of you, I'd really prefer to read about something other than Geno Auriemma on this site.
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Post by newduke2 on Jul 5, 2018 12:30:40 GMT -8
back to Hailey Van Lith after the hijacking...
She played on the National Championship women's USA 3x3 U18 team this spring and was the tournament MVP. Very impressive considering her teammates were Paige Bueckers (ESPN 2020 #5), Aliyah Boston (ESPN 2019 #7), and Samantha Brunelle (ESPN 2019 #1). This same team just won the tournament at the Spokane 3x3 Hoopsfest this past weekend. Here is the championship game at Spokane. Hailey is number 55. Looks good! Let's hope she eventually picks the Beavs!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 14:52:26 GMT -8
back to Hailey Van Lith after the hijacking... She played on the National Championship women's USA 3x3 U18 team this spring and was the tournament MVP. Very impressive considering her teammates were Paige Bueckers (ESPN 2020 #5), Aliyah Boston (ESPN 2019 #7), and Samantha Brunelle (ESPN 2019 #1). This same team just won the tournament at the Spokane 3x3 Hoopsfest this past weekend. Here is the championship game at Spokane. Hailey is number 55. Looks good! Let's hope she eventually picks the Beavs! Looking at the video, it's evident that Van Lith's strength and quickness are Slocum-like, but with a much better ability to drive to the hoop. She also displays a level of confidence I've never seen before. Gave me goose bumps. Now, can we get back to discussing Auriemma?
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Post by 411500 on Jul 5, 2018 16:13:42 GMT -8
Hailey looks good - no doubt about it.... No way her teammates, who all have very high rankings, would endorse a "point" who wasn't elite...
Minor point: slashing to the hoop in 3 on 3 is a walk in the park compared to 5 on 5....But your point that Hailey attacks impressively off the dribble is well taken. Her skills are even more impressive when you realize she has not yet begun her Junior year...
Outdoor 3 on 3 hammers 3 point shooting accuracy - even when it's not breezy. Outdoor 3 on 3 usually turns into a 12' and in game.
Just guessing, but if these same teams played indoors you'd see a lot more Hailey penetration, and a lot more successful perimeter shooting.... Outdoor 3 on 3 really favours bangers who can finish in close - there are lots of misses (therefore, lots of boards), no fast breaks (which favour the fast and wear out the bigs), and penetration passes into the key are a piece of cake compared to 5 on 5....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by jdogge on Jul 11, 2018 22:03:42 GMT -8
Listening to her entire interview, Hailey wants to study engineering. I think that rules out a few of the schools listed, including UO. Oregon State has a fantastic Engineering School Hailey! GO BEAVS. Very impressed with her maturity for a 16-year old. Clearly has some great parents. We could be in trouble. Stanford #2 UC Berkeley 3 UCLA 18 UW 20 USC 25 CU 30 ASU 40 AU 49 UU 61 ---- UCON 61 OSU 70 WSU 70 UO -- I gave up at #162
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 12, 2018 8:56:01 GMT -8
UCLA just got a 2019 PG (could eliminate them) UO has no engineering (could eliminate them) OSU doesn’t have a 2018 or 19 PG and we have engineering = a great fit
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 12, 2018 18:07:05 GMT -8
UCLA just got a 2019 PG (could eliminate them) UO has no engineering (could eliminate them) OSU doesn’t have a 2018 or 19 PG and we have engineering = a great fit *ucks have one of the nation's west coast's leading programs in fashion technology. Does that count for Engineering?
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Post by newduke2 on Jul 14, 2018 9:28:04 GMT -8
Listening to her entire interview, Hailey wants to study engineering. I think that rules out a few of the schools listed, including UO. Oregon State has a fantastic Engineering School Hailey! GO BEAVS. Very impressed with her maturity for a 16-year old. Clearly has some great parents. We could be in trouble. Stanford #2 UC Berkeley 3 UCLA 18 UW 20 USC 25 CU 30 ASU 40 AU 49 UU 61 ---- UCON 61 OSU 70 WSU 70 UO -- I gave up at #162 The US News and World Report's engineering school rankings for the 7 universities Hailey specifically listed in her June interview:
ucla - 18 uconn - 61 louisville - 125 osu - 70 uo - na baylor - 110 notre dame - 40
I'd say OSU is at least competitive with and in some cases better than the competing engineering schools with the probable exception of UCLA. Good news is UCLA already picked up 2018 and 2019 point guards, Baylor already has a new 2018 point guard, Louisville has a new 2018 point guard, and Notre Dame has picked up at least 1, possibly 2 2018 point guards and a 2019 point guard. As mentioned, UofO has no engineering program. UCONN did pick up the ESPN number 1 2018 comb-guard who could double as point guard given her diverse skill set. OSU's point guards are all 2017 recruits or the equivalent of based on eligible years left.
UCONN is a big problem and some of their observers think she is a UCONN lock....maybe or maybe not, especially if another 2019 or 2020 point guard commits to UCONN before her.
Her highlights from 2018 state tournament compiled/released on July 11:
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