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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 20, 2018 17:21:54 GMT -8
This thread has devolved. A series of really pointless speculation over a situation that no one on this board truly knows much about the behind the scenes happenings. I will tell you for a fact... male coaches are not in the women's locker room 24/7 before or after games. Asst coaches typically don't anticipate a player(s) players leaving to confront fans. Players leave the locker room on their own, rarely escorted or watched over all the time. Trakh is a class guy. He has been at several camps/ clinics and is super knowledgeable and friendly. He has always handled himself and players in a respectful manner. And, he has quality players wanting to come to SC. This was a aberration, a weird scenario involving a volatile "personality". There was no playbook in "handling" it. And, for Joe Blow fan it was probably all over long before this board will let it go. God knows "Joe Blow fan" is entitled to his opinion. I've offered my estimation of Trakh and my reasons for it. Perhaps if I'd palled around with him at a coaching clinic and marveled at his basketball mastery I'd feel different, but I doubt it. Yep you are... unsubstantiated and judgmental as it is... whether you "palled" around or not. |
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Post by dK on Apr 20, 2018 18:18:52 GMT -8
God knows "Joe Blow fan" is entitled to his opinion. I've offered my estimation of Trakh and my reasons for it. Perhaps if I'd palled around with him at a coaching clinic and marveled at his basketball mastery I'd feel different, but I doubt it. Yep you are... unsubstantiated and judgmental as it is... whether you "palled" around or not. Curious what you mean by putting palled in quotes. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 20, 2018 18:19:10 GMT -8
Another transfer thread down the toilet  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 20, 2018 18:55:50 GMT -8
Another transfer thread down the toilet It's just a dirty shame isn't it?.  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 20, 2018 18:58:14 GMT -8
God knows "Joe Blow fan" is entitled to his opinion. I've offered my estimation of Trakh and my reasons for it. Perhaps if I'd palled around with him at a coaching clinic and marveled at his basketball mastery I'd feel different, but I doubt it. Yep you are... unsubstantiated and judgmental as it is... whether you "palled" around or not. It was not unsubstantiated.. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 23, 2018 7:50:29 GMT -8
And now back to the thread at hand...  For those of you who have expressed concern about how the Beavs may fill the huge hole vacated by the graduation of Marie Gulich and have speculated that growing pains may occur as Grymek, Aquino, and Morris further develop, there may be help coming sooner than one might think. NCAA transfer reform provisions are making progress and appear to be on pace for approval this June. See the details in the excerpt and website link below. I am aware of at least one very talented center whose family has been following the NCAA transfer reform closely with the hope that the NCAA will allow transfers in good academic standing (3.0 GPA or higher and on track to graduate within 5 years) to be able to complete immediately without being a grad transfer or having an NCAA-approved exception (as like Notre Dame's Jessica Shepard this past season). The Beavs' recent success in the 2018 NCAA tournament, proven ability to develop talent, and its track record as a Top 10 women's basketball program over the past four years is extremely appealing to those potential transfers who would love to be able to play for an elite program in need of immediate help at the post position. Look for even more movement on the transfer level should the NCAA pass the anticipated transfer reform in June. It may just be in time to help those programs with immediate needs prior to when the new school year begins this fall. I would speculate that the OSU coaches are following the transfer reform progress very closely and have ideas about which potential transfers may be willing to move if they can play right away for OSU in '18-'19. "The Division I Committee on Athletics also reiterated its support for a concept that would allow student-athletes meeting a high academic standard — for example, a minimum grade-point average between 3.0 and 3.3 paired with progress-toward-degree requirements — to compete after transfer one time, no matter what sport the student plays." www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-committee-recommits-transfer-recommendations |
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 23, 2018 8:10:24 GMT -8
And now back to the thread at hand... For those of you who have expressed concern about how the Beavs may fill the huge hole vacated by the graduation of Marie Gulich and have speculated that growing pains may occur as Grymek, Aquino, and Morris further develop, there may be help coming sooner than one might think. NCAA transfer reform provisions are making progress and appear to be on pace for approval this June. See the details in the excerpt and website link below. I am aware of at least one very talented center whose family has been following the NCAA transfer reform closely with the hope that the NCAA will allow transfers in good academic standing (3.0 GPA or higher and on track to graduate within 5 years) to be able to complete immediately without being a grad transfer or having an NCAA-approved exception (as like Notre Dame's Jessica Shepard this past season). The Beavs' recent success in the 2018 NCAA tournament, proven ability to develop talent, and its track record as a Top 10 women's basketball program over the past four years is extremely appealing to those potential transfers who would love to be able to play for an elite program in need of immediate help at the post position. Look for even more movement on the transfer level should the NCAA pass the anticipated transfer reform in June. It may just be in time to help those programs with immediate needs prior to when the new school year begins this fall. I would speculate that the OSU coaches are following the transfer reform progress very closely and have ideas about which potential transfers may be willing to move if they can play right away for OSU in '18-'19. "The Division I Committee on Athletics also reiterated its support for a concept that would allow student-athletes meeting a high academic standard — for example, a minimum grade-point average between 3.0 and 3.3 paired with progress-toward-degree requirements — to compete after transfer one time, no matter what sport the student plays." www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-committee-recommits-transfer-recommendationsWhile that sounds great for the Beavers Women's basketball team, I'm not sure I like it as a rule in general. One of the most annoying parts of NCAA sports is the stark division between the "Haves" and the "Have nots", and I always believed the 1-year-sit-out rule was specifically designed to keep the "Have not" teams from simply being feeder programs for the "Haves". While this may be a bigger problem for the "mid major" types of teams than for OSU, it's obvious that OSU falls into the "Have not" category a lot more than it does the "Have" category. I get it that on the face of it, this is a rule to try to benefit athletes, but is also a rule that lends itself to abuse for the powerhouse programs to steal those late bloomer types from lower tier teams. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 23, 2018 10:12:56 GMT -8
Good info bhf - glad you tracked it down....
I agree with kersting that this rule change (if it goes into effect) will lend itself to top quality talent drifting upward to the "have" programs - and in this regard it is problematic.
On the other side of the coin, this also allows athletes who are 8th, 9th or 10th players to transfer "down" to another program where they are much more likely to earn floor time.
For example, (and it is only an example!) this new rule would allow players such as Janessa or Maddie to transfer to, say, U. Nevada or San Jose State, and then be eligible to play immediately and, as well, to keep on track toward timely graduation...
Since this is an all-sports ruling, it would benefit schollie athletes in other sports such as softball, gymnastics, swimming, etc......
So, basically, I'm wait and see on this possible rule change....
On the selfish side of things - I'd love to land an immediately eligible 6'4" rebounder who can pass, play defence and run the floor.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by 411500 on Apr 23, 2018 11:53:28 GMT -8
Just to follow up on a point in my previous post......Attached is a website for the most up to date (April 23, 2018) WBB transfers... I have not conducted a systematic review of this info, but a casual glance indicates an interesting trend: Most transfers are NOT moving from a weaker program to a stronger program (from a "Have-Not" program to a "Have" program) - most moves are "lateral" or "down". Which is to say, transfers that are more in line with the Janessa and Maddie example in my above post. At any rate, take look at the info and see what conclusions you are able to extract from it..... wbbblog.com/2018/04/05/womens-basketball-transfers-spring-summer-2018/ |
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Post by bennyskid on Apr 23, 2018 12:29:44 GMT -8
That shouldn't be surprising. Right now, a benchwarmer is just sacrificing another year on the bench in exchange for future playing time. That's a small price to pay. A top player loses more in the deal and has less to gain.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 27, 2018 9:50:52 GMT -8
The latest Tweet from Raoul notes that 184 D1 players are known to be attempting to transfer. The list shows that seven players, including 6'5" freshman Promise Taylor, are transferring from Ole Miss. Taylor had visited Oregon State prior to selecting Ole Miss. The list continues to only include two Oregon Ducks (Campisano and Maley) on it. Ayuso's departure will not be listed due to the fact that she is headed to Spain to play professionally. At least two other Ducks are continuing their searches to find their next collegiate home. OSU was in the recruiting mix for both players before they committed to the Ducks in late 2015. One was a part-time starter for the Ducks last season. The current intraconference transfer penalty that includes a loss of one season of eligibility in the PAC-12 will likely keep both players focused on schools outside of the PAC-12. Both are quality student/athletes and people. Would have been nice if they had started their playing careers in Corvallis. wbbblog.com/2018/04/05/womens-basketball-transfers-spring-summer-2018/ |
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Post by greybeav on May 2, 2018 21:59:39 GMT -8
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Post by beavershoopsfan on May 3, 2018 7:28:17 GMT -8
Perhaps a bit. McGwire would have provided some more depth in the paint behind Hebard and the Sabally sisters next season. She started 19 games (out of 38) for the Ducks last season and was sixth in total minutes played for that squad. Of the four Ducks (Campisano, Maley, Ayuso, and now McGwire) with eligibility remaining to announce that they won't be returning to Eugene for '18-'19, McGwire's defection is probably the most significant. One more returning Duck is actively looking and has not made her search known to the press as yet. However, she has shared her intention/desire to transfer with at least one of her OSU friends. goducks.com/cumestats.aspx?path=wbball |
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Post by 411500 on May 3, 2018 7:46:00 GMT -8
"One more Duck is actively looking....."
Now that could get interesting......Even weird.........Especially if the mystery woman is 6'1 Power Forward Oti Gildon......
As I suggested on another thread, Power Forward is the weakest link on the Beaver 2018- 2019 roster...
It's a stretch, but with new "play immediately" rules coming into effect for some transfers one never knows....
On another note: How does beaverhoopsfan obtain all this info?🙃
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Post by Werebeaver on May 3, 2018 8:31:13 GMT -8
"One more Duck is actively looking....." Now that could get interesting......Even weird.........Especially if the mystery woman is 6'1 Power Forward Oti Gildon...... As I suggested on another thread, Power Forward is the weakest link on the Beaver 2018- 2019 roster... It's a stretch, but with new "play immediately" rules coming into effect for some transfers one never knows.... On another note: How does beaverhoopsfan obtain all this info?🙃 Most likely it is the Australian guard Morgan Yaeger. ESPN top 100 recruit who played zero minutes last season. |
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For those of you who have expressed concern about how the Beavs may fill the huge hole vacated by the graduation of Marie Gulich and have speculated that growing pains may occur as Grymek, Aquino, and Morris further develop, there may be help coming sooner than one might think.