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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 19, 2018 15:36:35 GMT -8
Clemson and FSU had home games prior to their Friday night road games. USC had a Saturday road game prior to its game at WSU.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 19, 2018 15:49:47 GMT -8
I think his point was, the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 and SEC would never do that in scheduling to their top teams. It puts the Pac-12 at a scheduling disadvantage when competing for a playoff spot, relative to its peers in contention for the same spots. Clemson played a Friday road game vs. Syracuse this year. They lost. Florida State played a Friday road game vs. Boston College. They lost. The ACC is in the same boat we are for the most part, though maybe for different reasons. Big Ten, Big 12, SEC....they're not. They don't have to play Fridays because they can play Saturday noon eastern time games on national TV. We can't do that. I can't even imagine the uproar if we tried to play a 9am local time game. The fact of the matter is that the Pac-12 is time zonally challenged. We can't play noon Eastern Time games on Saturdays. I'm trying to imagine the uproar of a 9am kick. If we play mid day games, nobody watches because the crazed SEC/Big10 fans are all watching their games. So we play late at night, only that sucks because all those rowdy midwestern and southern folks are passed out drunk or out drinking more to celebrate/drown their sorrows. So we play Fridays to get at least some people in other time zones to watch our games. And it sucks....but again the option is to take less money from a TV deal and disadvantage our programs that way. Pick your poison. Neither Clemson nor Florida State played a road game the weekend before. The ACC is very conscientious to not stack the deck against teams. The Pac-12 is getting better in this regard, but it is too bad that the Pac-12 had to figure this out the hard way rather than accounting for it beforehand. As for the other three conferences, the SEC is the only conference that can afford not to play Fridays. The Big Ten played six Friday games in 2017, but three were non-conference. The road team won twice. Northwestern upset Michigan State on the final Friday night game, which likely cost the Spartans a Big Six Bowl bid. Instead, Michigan State demolished Washington State 42-17. The Big 12 played three Friday games in 2017. One was non-conference. The other two were the four Texas teams playing each other on Thanksgiving Weekend. The Big 12 cannot afford to not play Friday night games, but Texas basically does not allow it, so it does not happen. Disney throwing money at Texas to stop the Pac-16 has basically turned the Big 12 into a joke. Their conference champion is often a quality team, however. |
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Post by obf on Mar 20, 2018 11:13:20 GMT -8
People are acting like it's Larry Scott's fault that ESPN and Fox don't want to pay as much for Pac-12 football as they do for SEC or Big Ten football. Like he didn't take the best deal offered. ESPN and Fox have nothing to do with it. They were never given the chance to make a bid, Pac-12 decided they wanted to make their own channel.. Which is fine, I guess, and could have been a good idea, but the implementers of the plan did a terrible job. Content, on air talent, all that stuff has improved and you would expect there to be a learning curve there, however not having Direct TV on board day 1 was inexcusable, not having them on board six years later?  I don't even have a word for that... Someone help me out with the right adjective... Anyway, whatever the failure was... why is Scott not to blame? It is his charge to run the conference, all the successes will be his achievement, and all it's failures will ultimately be his to carry, why is this a hard concept for some? Every organization in our society works this way! It matter not one whit that other people helped make the decisions, or did the actual implementing, he's the head man, he gets the blame. |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 20, 2018 13:47:39 GMT -8
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Post by biggieorange on Mar 21, 2018 9:53:14 GMT -8
USC totally shot themselves in the foot last year with their dumb OOC scheduling (W Mich, Texas, ND). USC defeated Texas and WMU last year. It always plays ND, so that isn't even a factor in its OOC scheduling, it's a given they'll play ND. So I guess I don't see how their OOC hurt them. Most people would consider beating WMU, a 2016 Cotton Bowl team, and Texas to be a pretty major accomplishment. They played with NO BYE, this matters a lot to football teams. If they just had Texas they could slide in a San Jose or Fresno or whomever and been sitting at home resting that ND week instead of getting humiliated on National TV. Look at their Losses for the year. Played 5 straight games to start the season, after a OT win over Texas they went on the road to CAL (got a W) then again ON A SHORT WEEK to Pullman; and lose a game they should have won. USC was down like 3 starting Olineman that week off a Oline that was like a Beaver Oline, meaning it was mediocure AT BEST. Then USC has 3 more games in as many weeks, and after another tough Utah game again, they go on the road to ND and got embarrassed 14-49 with Darnold running for his life. I think with 9 conf games you don't need 2 big time opponents, I don't care if you are USC. Look at LSU, tOSU, BAMA they never play more than 1 --and never on the road, maybe a neural site. USC getting boat raced harms the whole conference because they are going to win 7 or 8 conference games every year practically. |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 21, 2018 10:09:28 GMT -8
biggieorange Good points. Interestingly, I looked back at USC's schedule - 2017 was the first year since the Pac-12 was created that their bye has not come immediately before a Thursday night game. The did get a bye year though - they got their bye during the week before the P-12 conference game....Stanford meanwhile had to play the week prior (against that same Notre Dame team) and went into the Pac-12 championship with a pretty banged up Bryce Love if I remember correctly. That late bye might be the only reason they won the Pac-12.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 21, 2018 11:00:50 GMT -8
USC almost never plays that week on the odd year, when it goes to ND in October. When ND plays at SC it's always the final game of the season, historically on Thanksgiving weekend.
USC will never stop playing ND. It's history for them, a huge payday, and their biggest game of the season.
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Post by nabeav on Mar 26, 2018 14:51:05 GMT -8
I don't know where else to put this, but I noticed this line at the bottom of a post on osubeavers.com announcing the new assistant soccer coaches:
Aside from the fact that I hate acronyms for the sake of acronyms, why on earth did they bold the A in Athletes? Go BEAVS-A? C'mon. We're better than this.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 26, 2018 15:52:21 GMT -8
I don't know where else to put this, but I noticed this line at the bottom of a post on osubeavers.com announcing the new assistant soccer coaches: Aside from the fact that I hate acronyms for the sake of acronyms, why on earth did they bold the A in Athletes? Go BEAVS-A? C'mon. We're better than this. Obviously, Barnes is Canadian. |
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Post by four2itus on Mar 26, 2018 16:15:09 GMT -8
Hey.....hoser.
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Post by OSUprof on Mar 26, 2018 17:12:15 GMT -8
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Post by nabeav on Mar 27, 2018 7:36:32 GMT -8
I hate that you're right. |
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Post by biggieorange on Mar 27, 2018 16:24:34 GMT -8
USC almost never plays that week on the odd year, when it goes to ND in October. When ND plays at SC it's always the final game of the season, historically on Thanksgiving weekend. USC will never stop playing ND. It's history for them, a huge payday, and their biggest game of the season. Hey i get it, this gets the rich dudes that went to ND or USC pants all tight. But adding in Texas even though they have been down is still another legit game. It isn't Eastern Washington or San Jose. I like it in theory, but only if LSU/Oklahoma/PennSt/Bama are gonna do the same stuff. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 29, 2018 12:00:36 GMT -8
USC almost never plays that week on the odd year, when it goes to ND in October. When ND plays at SC it's always the final game of the season, historically on Thanksgiving weekend. USC will never stop playing ND. It's history for them, a huge payday, and their biggest game of the season. Hey i get it, this gets the rich dudes that went to ND or USC pants all tight. But adding in Texas even though they have been down is still another legit game. It isn't Eastern Washington or San Jose. I like it in theory, but only if LSU/Oklahoma/PennSt/Bama are gonna do the same stuff. Oklahoma and Penn State each played 10 Power 5 teams in the regular season. Penn State also played the MAC East Champion and the Lions' final opponent, Georgia State won the Cure Bowl. The Tide getting into the CFP should never have happened. Their schedule was not comparable to Ohio State's. The Tide were also the second-best team in their Division and the second-best team in their state. The Committee got it wrong. Fix the Committee! Going 11-2 against a difficult schedule should mean more than going 11-1 against a soft schedule. |
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Post by biggieorange on Mar 29, 2018 12:50:09 GMT -8
Hey i get it, this gets the rich dudes that went to ND or USC pants all tight. But adding in Texas even though they have been down is still another legit game. It isn't Eastern Washington or San Jose. I like it in theory, but only if LSU/Oklahoma/PennSt/Bama are gonna do the same stuff. Oklahoma and Penn State each played 10 Power 5 teams in the regular season. Penn State also played the MAC East Champion and the Lions' final opponent, Georgia State won the Cure Bowl. The Tide getting into the CFP should never have happened. Their schedule was not comparable to Ohio State's. The Tide were also the second-best team in their Division and the second-best team in their state. The Committee got it wrong. Fix the Committee! Going 11-2 against a difficult schedule should mean more than going 11-1 against a soft schedule. You are actually making MY POINT for me. Penn State did what I say not to do and stayed at home. Bama didn't and got to play. Obviously didn't hurt Bama's team development either as they won their playoff game and Oklahoma couldn't. |
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I don't even have a word for that... Someone help me out with the right adjective...
