Watching an acc game, Pitt vs Syracuse, their refs are calling a tight game (I've seen other similar games from other conferences). It doesn't take much contact to draw a whistle. The players know it and play accordingly.
(Just rewatched the OSU USC replay on Pac-12 online.
I don't think Simon played any more physical than Osahor used to play basically every game. Lots of Marie and Simon leaning on each other in the post. Nothing particularly unusual about that.
Folks who think the game was some sort of officiating miscarriage are plainly mistaken. I just didn't see it in the first time through or in the replay.
If some folks can't deal with that level of physical play then we should start watching volleyball or tennis. You know, those sports where the 2 teams are separated by net down the middle of the court.-)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Will talks response---------------The level of physicality was not just limited to Simons play. I think many people are OK with a level of physical play, but there is a middle ground that needs to be maintained or games can get out of hand. Physical players tend to push that boundary as far as possible.It is up to the officials to keep the game in hand.
I believe the officials allowed it to go over the line at about 6:59 of the first quarter ( although it might have been the second quarter) It was the no call on Kats drive to the basket, that followed Mc's block of Edwards on the other end. One of the announcers said of the no call " that turnaround is fair play" and "they are letting them play". That was absurd. If you watch the play, Kat was hit hard from behind by Edwards body so much so that it significantly accelerated the velocity that her body was traveling forward. It was not just contact on the arm but major blunt force of the body, much like a hit in football. That was a call that should have been made. Letting them play is a " blank check" statement and any " " blank check" is frankly irresponsible. The lack of a foul on that play set the standard that followed. That was a statement moment that the officials missed.
Squonk- Did you enjoy watching that level of physicality? You say you watched the replay yet made no mention of that. You might enjoy watching, but then you are not the one playing. In respect to your posts on some other threads in respect to this one, I tend to suspect a level of philosophic contradiction. To be concerned with the emotional effects of individuals being called names ( nothing wrong with that) but on the other hand having no concerned with one person inflicting unnecessary physical trauma on another lacks consistency.
Ironically it was on the following in bounds play after the previous non call, that Simon got another of her early fouls very similar to her fifth one. She pushed Kat about 6 feet from her position. In many respects the sequential cause an effect of the consequences of that none call on that drive led to Simons fouling out and the ultimate issue that followed. It is the officials responsibility to assure that emotions do not get out of hand which is often due to the physicality of the game. A level which they failed to regulate. Simon has enough on her plate in respect to her emotions without allowing the negative influence of an out of control game to exacerbate it.
Two wrongs never make a right. Let me say that Simons actions on the floor what ever they might of been would not justify any off court harassment racial or
other wise by spectators. I don't see a difference between different forms of harassment. The focus on racial harassment seems to have taken the onus off of other forms which often are just as destructive. They both serve the same purpose, which is to injure a persons sense of identity and worth. To an emotionally fragile individual like Simon that would be more destructive than most.
