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Post by mbabeav on Mar 1, 2018 11:35:02 GMT -8
Official measurements for Nall 6' 2-1/8" tall #232 31-1/12" arms 10" hands LinkIn other words, he is one big dude.
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Post by orangeattack on Mar 1, 2018 12:17:52 GMT -8
Tallest, heaviest, and biggest hands in the draft.
Not the biggest arms though, pretty average on that item.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 1, 2018 14:30:44 GMT -8
Tallest, heaviest, and biggest hands in the draft. Not the biggest arms though, pretty average on that item. I thought Barkley weighed in as heavier??? People were talking how disappointed in his weight and that his 40 time needs to show he can handle it. BUT... like it will really effect his draft stock... Different sites have varied weights that is for sure! NFL site: Interesting 1st drill Nall 234... only 15 reps on bench... DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7/PFA BOTTOM LINE Nall is a "get what's blocked" runner who struggles to access the agility or burst needed to work outside the tackles. Nall does offer a fairly decisive downhill option with good vision who sees the hole and will hit it without dancing. Once he gets up a head of steam, Nall is able to finish with some power, but gaining the head of steam is challenging for him at times. Nall may offer some short yardage potential, but it wouldn't be shocking to see a team try and convert him to a fullback or H-back in the pros. Barkley (PSU) 223... 29 reps Chubb (GA) 228... 29 Warren (Tex) 250... 25 Coleman (UW) 223... 23 Michael (GA) 220... 22 Pettway (Aub) 235... 22 Flowers (ok) 245... 17 Freeman(Or) 234... 17 WEAKNESSES Doesn't always play to his size. Too willing to eat contact rather than dole it out. Can be slowed by arm tackles. Hip tightness prevents him from consistently slipping leg tackles on perimeter runs. Jump cuts gain limited ground. Appears to anticipate contact at times when attacking run creases. Below average elusiveness once defenders close him out in the open field. Tires are missing some tread. Has had over 1000 touches during his career. Has become more of a grinder than a slasher as his career has moved forward. Lacks an explosive "get-away" gear to pull away from tacklers. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3-4
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Post by seastape on Mar 1, 2018 14:36:06 GMT -8
Official measurements for Nall 6' 2-1/8" tall #232 31-1/12" arms 10" hands LinkCool link. Two RBs with 29 reps, including Barkley from Penn State...those are DT-type numbers.
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 1, 2018 16:26:47 GMT -8
Tallest, heaviest, and biggest hands in the draft. Not the biggest arms though, pretty average on that item. I thought Barkley weighed in as heavier??? People were talking how disappointed in his weight and that his 40 time needs to show he can handle it. BUT... like it will really effect his draft stock... Different sites have varied weights that is for sure! NFL site: Interesting 1st drill Nall 234... only 15 reps on bench... DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7/PFA BOTTOM LINE Nall is a "get what's blocked" runner who struggles to access the agility or burst needed to work outside the tackles. Nall does offer a fairly decisive downhill option with good vision who sees the hole and will hit it without dancing. Once he gets up a head of steam, Nall is able to finish with some power, but gaining the head of steam is challenging for him at times. Nall may offer some short yardage potential, but it wouldn't be shocking to see a team try and convert him to a fullback or H-back in the pros. Barkley (PSU) 223... 29 reps Chubb (GA) 228... 29 Warren (Tex) 250... 25 Coleman (UW) 223... 23 Michael (GA) 220... 22 Pettway (Aub) 235... 22 Flowers (ok) 245... 17 Freeman(Or) 234... 17 WEAKNESSES Doesn't always play to his size. Too willing to eat contact rather than dole it out. Can be slowed by arm tackles. Hip tightness prevents him from consistently slipping leg tackles on perimeter runs. Jump cuts gain limited ground. Appears to anticipate contact at times when attacking run creases. Below average elusiveness once defenders close him out in the open field. Tires are missing some tread. Has had over 1000 touches during his career. Has become more of a grinder than a slasher as his career has moved forward. Lacks an explosive "get-away" gear to pull away from tacklers. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3-4 I always take these draft reports with a grain of salt. I remember the NFL site said one of Brandin Cooks' weaknesses was that he lacked top end speed, and then he went out and got a $100,000 bonus for running the fastest 40 time at the combine in Adidas.
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Post by orangeattack on Mar 1, 2018 16:50:34 GMT -8
Ryan's long arms are going to make big bench numbers difficult. Big frame. 15 reps isn't bad, all things considered. I think it's silly that anybody says he lacks breakaway speed.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 1, 2018 17:00:30 GMT -8
I would like it if they also ran 80-100 yard runs, not just the 40 times. They should run the running backs and the d-backs at the same time, say 3 RBS and 3 DBS on a 6 lane track. They don't run against a clock in games, give 'em someone to run against.
I'm not so sure how Nall's 40 time is going to pan out, but once he gets going he seems to be pretty good at outrunning supposedly faster players.
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Post by obf on Mar 2, 2018 9:35:47 GMT -8
I am surprised at Nall's rather ordinary Bench numbers, but none of it really matters, it all comes down to the 40 time...
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 2, 2018 10:59:45 GMT -8
I am surprised at Nall's rather ordinary Bench numbers, but none of it really matters, it all comes down to the 40 time... big wing span matters on that type of action, as mentioned above, but I bet he has also been focusing on the 40. I have always been concerned about the number of times he went down to foot tackles - my thought is that he has been focusing on lower body strength and techniques - going to probably try out for a lot of teams individually and continue to get real coaching between now and the draft. I just don't think he was well served by the staff at OSU......
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Post by robobeav on Mar 2, 2018 12:30:34 GMT -8
Saw a couple numbers. 4.58 in the 40 and 10’2’’ in the broad jump.
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Post by obf on Mar 2, 2018 12:38:20 GMT -8
Saw a couple numbers. 4.58 in the 40 and 10’2’’ in the broad jump. Wow! Sweet! 4.58 is a real good time for him! Puts him solidly in the middle of the pack for other RB at the combine and a real legit threat to crack into the first three rounds, IMHO.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 2, 2018 12:53:30 GMT -8
Saw a couple numbers. 4.58 in the 40 and 10’2’’ in the broad jump. Wow! Sweet! 4.58 is a real good time for him! Puts him solidly in the middle of the pack for other RB at the combine and a real legit threat to crack into the first three rounds, IMHO. If only he were two inches taller, tight end would be his spot - fullback/H back is where I see him right now, won't be much chance to show his top gear in the NFL against the speed of the defenders there. Like the broad jump results too -
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Post by atownbeaver on Mar 2, 2018 14:29:50 GMT -8
Saw a couple numbers. 4.58 in the 40 and 10’2’’ in the broad jump. Wow! Sweet! 4.58 is a real good time for him! Puts him solidly in the middle of the pack for other RB at the combine and a real legit threat to crack into the first three rounds, IMHO. He is right in line with other big-boy RBs in the draft... which while not bad, it also doesn't separate him. Certainly not bad... but it is pretty neutral. He didn't help himself, but he didn't hurt himself either. It wasn't that real eyebrow raising time he probably needed to nudge himself to a middle round guy instead of a 6-7 guy. I personally think he can be faster.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 2, 2018 17:05:24 GMT -8
Wow! Sweet! 4.58 is a real good time for him! Puts him solidly in the middle of the pack for other RB at the combine and a real legit threat to crack into the first three rounds, IMHO. He is right in line with other big-boy RBs in the draft... which while not bad, it also doesn't separate him. Certainly not bad... but it is pretty neutral. He didn't help himself, but he didn't hurt himself either. It wasn't that real eyebrow raising time he probably needed to nudge himself to a middle round guy instead of a 6-7 guy. I personally think he can be faster. We love our former BEAVERS... but, Ryan is not one of the "hyped" in a position that is not been drafted highly in recent times. RBs are almost a throw away position these days with tons of talent found in the lower rounds and FA. Ryan is seen with lots of questions and a rd 6/7/FA... more of a FB or HB. Nothing so far has raised that bar over the scouting they've already done thru tape. He got invited, that's good. But, there are guys nit there that'll be drafted.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Mar 2, 2018 20:22:53 GMT -8
He's only .04 seconds slower than the dude down the street, and better bench, that guys projected as a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
RB is a crapshoot position, and there are a ton of them in this draft. SO BB is probably right, he'll probably go day 3 or FA. Although it won't surprise me at all of some team falls in love with him and takes him earlier.
Hey, Kareem Hunt-4.62 40 and 18 reps BP. 3rd round pick, 1327 yards as a rookie. CJ Anderson, 4.6 ypc/17 reps. Alex Collins, 4.59 40/18 reps.
I said it earlier, put Nall on a top 20 team with an offensive line and he's an All-American. If he can average 5.5 ypc playing behind 3 of the worst offensive lines in the nation, imagine how he would do playing behind Wisconsin's.
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