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Post by beaverstever on Feb 10, 2016 22:15:18 GMT -8
I'm hoping for the best, but I'm not super optimistic. Our boxing issues aren't just the lack of boxing out. They're also related to getting pushed around, as well as some having a poor understanding of rebound location probabilities (GP II being a huge exception here). That said, I'd love to at least see some grit here - they should watch some highlights of Dennis Rodman in his prime - he flat willed is way to rebounds half the time.
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Post by gnawitall on Feb 11, 2016 8:40:18 GMT -8
I'm hoping for the best, but I'm not super optimistic. Our boxing issues aren't just the lack of boxing out. They're also related to getting pushed around, as well as some having a poor understanding of rebound location probabilities (GP II being a huge exception here). That said, I'd love to at least see some grit here - they should watch some highlights of Dennis Rodman in his prime - he flat willed is way to rebounds half the time. I agree. In football they will talk about a defender having a nose for the ball and I'm wondering if that is innate or can be taught? I realize hard work can accomplish alot but I'm talking about understanding both angles and body positioning based on those angles. My son pointed out the other night how Dre'mond Green jumped a bit higher than the defender and tipped the ball off the backboard back to himself and laid it in. Pretty good stuff. |
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Post by TheGlove on Feb 11, 2016 9:19:07 GMT -8
*Draymond.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Feb 11, 2016 11:21:19 GMT -8
Oh we'll win if we match them on the glass. But there's ZERO evidence that were are currently willing and able to do so.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Feb 11, 2016 15:52:14 GMT -8
Find a man, anyone, and put a damn body on them. If they go over the back of you, that's a foul. Not a hard concept.
Beavs by 5.
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Post by beaverstever on Feb 11, 2016 16:37:54 GMT -8
Find a man, anyone, and put a damn body on them. If they go over the back of you, that's a foul. Not a hard concept. Beavs by 5. Watch Tinkle box out, he puts a body on, the opposition then plants an elbow on his upper back so he can't elevate, and they go right over the top. I've yet to see him get an over-the-back call. Until he's able to push them right back or power through their lean, he's not going to get many of those boards. Not a hard concept at all, but it's plenty hard to achieve by this crew. I do think they need to be more animated and draw attention when they're getting pushed around to try to get some calls. With a frame like Thompson in particular, you've got to work all angles. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Feb 11, 2016 21:55:30 GMT -8
What a difference from the first time we played them!!
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Post by beaverintheberg on Feb 11, 2016 22:00:27 GMT -8
There is no such thing as "over the back".. It's either a push/hold or it's not. There is no foul for being tall!
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Feb 12, 2016 11:42:21 GMT -8
There is no such thing as "over the back".. It's either a push/hold or it's not. There is no foul for being tall! Not true. Smaller guy can box out a bigger man, bigger man reaches up and over the smaller man who's jumping for the ball. That's over the back. |
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Post by dK on Feb 12, 2016 12:31:19 GMT -8
NCAA rules on rebounds.
Art. 1.
A rebound occurs when a player secures possession of the ball after a try
for goal. In a rebounding situation, there is no player or team control.
Art. 2.
To attain or maintain legal rebounding position, a player shall not:
a.
Displace, charge or push an opponent.
b.
Extend either or both shoulders, hips, knees or extend either or both arms
or elbows fully or partially in a position other than vertical so that the
freedom of movement of an opponent is hindered when contact with any
of these body parts occurs.
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Bend his body in an abnormal position to hold or displace an opponent.
d.
Violate the principle of verticality.
Art. 3.
Every player shall be entitled to a spot on the playing court, provided that
such player gets there first without illegally contacting an opponent. (
Exception: Rule 4-17.7)
Over the back would violate several rules if contact is made with a player who has established position.
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Post by TheGlove on Feb 12, 2016 13:54:56 GMT -8
There is no such thing as "over the back".. It's either a push/hold or it's not. There is no foul for being tall! Not true. Smaller guy can box out a bigger man, bigger man reaches up and over the smaller man who's jumping for the ball. That's over the back. this doesn't describe a foul. |
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Post by beaverintheberg on Feb 12, 2016 15:29:26 GMT -8
There is no such thing as "over the back".. It's either a push/hold or it's not. There is no foul for being tall! Not true. Smaller guy can box out a bigger man, bigger man reaches up and over the smaller man who's jumping for the ball. That's over the back. Annnd... that's not a foul. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 12, 2016 15:40:08 GMT -8
Here's a simplified version:
If it's not called, it's NOT a foul. ;>)
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Feb 12, 2016 15:42:44 GMT -8
Not true. Smaller guy can box out a bigger man, bigger man reaches up and over the smaller man who's jumping for the ball. That's over the back. this doesn't describe a foul. Yes it is. If they reach up over you while you're going up for the ball, that's a foul. Any day, any league, anytime. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Feb 12, 2016 15:43:36 GMT -8
Not true. Smaller guy can box out a bigger man, bigger man reaches up and over the smaller man who's jumping for the ball. That's over the back. Annnd... that's not a foul. Yes it is. Anytime anyone behind you reaches up and over you, and interfere with you going up for a rebound...that's a foul. |
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