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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 30, 2017 14:43:35 GMT -8
In his press conference. Stated it is not his plan to do so, and that he will just be involved in the offensive game plan and that is it.
First, I like to hear that. A HC should be the general and CEO. Speak up when needed and keep the ship in the right direction.
Second, it puts a lot of pressure on that OC hire. It is the position I am probably the most fascinated with.
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Post by orangeattack on Nov 30, 2017 14:58:06 GMT -8
Langs will do a great job on the play-calling, no worries.
After the Anderpants Era, I now have concluded that Danny is an absolute offensive genius. |
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Post by obf on Nov 30, 2017 14:58:22 GMT -8
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 30, 2017 15:08:27 GMT -8
In his press conference. Stated it is not his plan to do so, and that he will just be involved in the offensive game plan and that is it. First, I like to hear that. A HC should be the general and CEO. Speak up when needed and keep the ship in the right direction. Second, it puts a lot of pressure on that OC hire. It is the position I am probably the most fascinated with. Meh. I don't really think it matters. There are plenty of examples of HC's who call their own plays and are successful with it. More than on way to skin a cat. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 30, 2017 15:21:26 GMT -8
He's sending a strong signal to whoever he's thinkng about bringing in to run our offense that it's that person's offense. I like it.
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Post by biggieorange on Nov 30, 2017 15:44:49 GMT -8
Langs will do a great job on the play-calling, no worries.
After the Andersen Era, I now have concluded that Danny is an absolute offensive genius. I won't go to GENIUS, but Danny L is obviously competent. |
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Post by orangeattack on Nov 30, 2017 16:34:21 GMT -8
After the Andersen Era, I now have concluded that Danny is an absolute offensive genius. I won't go to GENIUS, but Danny L is obviously competent. I made a joke because the accepted conventional wisdom here is that Langs wasn't a great playcaller but.... The further and further we get away from the Riley/Langs era, the more I realize that we were throwing the ball because we had to, not because we wanted to. |
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Post by gobeavs92 on Nov 30, 2017 18:31:50 GMT -8
In his press conference. Stated it is not his plan to do so, and that he will just be involved in the offensive game plan and that is it. First, I like to hear that. A HC should be the general and CEO. Speak up when needed and keep the ship in the right direction. Second, it puts a lot of pressure on that OC hire. It is the position I am probably the most fascinated with. I like that! The good thing is that he will more than likely be majorly involved in game planning, which is the most important part really. Gameday call sheets usually have the scenarios/plays married together with things like; down/distance, field position, hash, personnel groupings that are added due to watching film (finding tendencies on defense). Go Beavs! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 30, 2017 20:22:53 GMT -8
In his press conference. Stated it is not his plan to do so, and that he will just be involved in the offensive game plan and that is it. First, I like to hear that. A HC should be the general and CEO. Speak up when needed and keep the ship in the right direction. Second, it puts a lot of pressure on that OC hire. It is the position I am probably the most fascinated with. Meh. I don't really think it matters. There are plenty of examples of HC's who call their own plays and are successful with it. More than on way to skin a cat. Not doubting you, I would just like to know, could you name a few? Thanks in advance. |
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 30, 2017 20:48:09 GMT -8
Meh. I don't really think it matters. There are plenty of examples of HC's who call their own plays and are successful with it. More than on way to skin a cat. Not doubting you, I would just like to know, could you name a few? Thanks in advance. Mike Leach, Chip Kelly, Mike Riley did at one time, RichRod, David Shaw - in the NFL: Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Bruce Arians. There are lots more examples. And some of those guys have done it and then given it up. Football has evolved a lot over time. Back in the day, QBs used to frequently call their own plays. SaveSave |
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Post by biggieorange on Dec 1, 2017 8:16:54 GMT -8
I won't go to GENIUS, but Danny L is obviously competent. I made a joke because the accepted conventional wisdom here is that Langs wasn't a great playcaller but.... The further and further we get away from the Riley/Langs era, the more I realize that we were throwing the ball because we had to, not because we wanted to. Yeah, I understand the feeling. OSU had some bad olines, continues to have bad olines, and will probably in the future have very few competent Olinemen. Coach 9er should plan accordingly. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 1, 2017 9:24:49 GMT -8
Watch and see what UW does. If Lubick isn't promoted, we might see him here as OC.
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 1, 2017 9:50:33 GMT -8
I made a joke because the accepted conventional wisdom here is that Langs wasn't a great playcaller but.... The further and further we get away from the Riley/Langs era, the more I realize that we were throwing the ball because we had to, not because we wanted to. Yeah, I understand the feeling. OSU had some bad olines, continues to have bad olines, and will probably in the future have very few competent Olinemen. Coach 9er should plan accordingly. OSU has also had some good olines too though. So it doesn't seem like it's impossible to put together a strong OL, but I do think that it's going to need to be a ZBS in order to be successful at OSU. For all of our griping about Danny being in love with the pass, when Quizz was in the backfield we were running the ball 25-30 times per game and overall they used him fairly brilliantly with the wildcat formations, catching out of the backfield, screen game, and running between the tackles. And that OL wasn't particularly good either. |
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Post by obf on Dec 1, 2017 10:07:01 GMT -8
I made a joke because the accepted conventional wisdom here is that Langs wasn't a great playcaller but.... The further and further we get away from the Riley/Langs era, the more I realize that we were throwing the ball because we had to, not because we wanted to. Yeah, I understand the feeling. OSU had some bad olines, continues to have bad olines, and will probably in the future have very few competent Olinemen. Coach 9er should plan accordingly. You can say that, but the multiple former beav OLineman starting in the NFL would disagree.... QA had bad Olines... or maybe I should say bad OLine play, because I still believe there is some good talent on the team... They were certainly horribly coached and put in terrible schemes... I have said it before, but I bet Coach Cav would have had the 2017 line playing much, much better... In our recent ERA (not including QA!) we haven't had great Oline recruits, but at times we have had stellar OLine play... Even last year we had Harlow, who was a 4th round pick and is working on trying to break into the Falcons OLine rotation... |
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 1, 2017 10:09:12 GMT -8
Yeah, I understand the feeling. OSU had some bad olines, continues to have bad olines, and will probably in the future have very few competent Olinemen. Coach 9er should plan accordingly. OSU has also had some good olines too though. So it doesn't seem like it's impossible to put together a strong OL, but I do think that it's going to need to be a ZBS in order to be successful at OSU. For all of our griping about Danny being in love with the pass, when Quizz was in the backfield we were running the ball 25-30 times per game and overall they used him fairly brilliantly with the wildcat formations, catching out of the backfield, screen game, and running between the tackles. And that OL wasn't particularly good either. nice short and sweet explanation of ZBS vs Man. |
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