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Post by tamatrix on Oct 17, 2017 17:30:46 GMT -8
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Post by steinlager on Oct 17, 2017 19:18:02 GMT -8
Having tournament baseball would be interesting for fans but I wonder how Casey feels about it. If he comes out in favor than I'm all in too.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 17, 2017 19:55:26 GMT -8
Unnecessary with a complete round-robin.
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 18, 2017 8:37:50 GMT -8
In a world of logic, Conference tournaments are completely unnecessary.
I pretty much completely dislike them, but there are other factors at work that make tournaments appealing to the powers that be.
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Post by mountainbeaver on Oct 18, 2017 9:10:15 GMT -8
I don't like it. Opens the door for a lousy team to get hot for a few days
and take away a spot from a much more deserving team. The Pac 12 has
has a strong recent history of getting shafted in the general draw. Seems like
we struggle to get 4 teams in while the ACC gets about 50. A tourney probably
won't help. Seems expensive and I really don't see it drawing well, especially
in Sacramento or wherever for that matter. Would much rather go straight to
regionals after the conf season ends.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 18, 2017 9:25:51 GMT -8
I don't like it. Opens the door for a lousy team to get hot for a few days and take away a spot from a much more deserving team. The Pac 12 has has a strong recent history of getting shafted in the general draw. Seems like we struggle to get 4 teams in while the ACC gets about 50. A tourney probably won't help. Seems expensive and I really don't see it drawing well, especially in Sacramento or wherever for that matter. Would much rather go straight to regionals after the conf season ends. Complete and utter money grab. Tourneys do nothing for deserving teams other than lower their seeding if they lose a game. Rarely will a highly ranked/seeded team need to prove itself again in a tourney and only puts more unneeded innings/stress on a rotation. Undeserving teams are all for it. For bubble teams and below its their only way in after flopping in 56 previous games. Teams that cite returning injured players are also full of BS. It's part of the game... s%#te happens and one tournament should not effect the 56 game season. If you thought BEAVER fans were upset about exclusion before could you imagine! |
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Post by rilesinnewberg on Oct 18, 2017 9:59:07 GMT -8
I don't like it from a young arm perspective. It puts extra stress on your big 3 and the pen. Would be interesting to look at the other conferences and see how pitching staffs react.
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Post by messi on Oct 18, 2017 12:05:46 GMT -8
This will cause either the conference season having to start a week earlier, taking away a non-conference series, to free up the final weekend for this tournament. Or teams will get to skip facing another team in conference.
This is just bad, and does Sacramento scream destination to bring in fans to watch this? Hasn't the conference learned its mistake in putting the football title game in Santa Clara?
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Post by beaverdude on Oct 18, 2017 12:33:50 GMT -8
Absolutely not!
If they insist on implementing this bad idea they should have the decency to rotate the tournament to all Pac schools with adequate baseball facilities. Who wants to go to Sacramento?
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Post by hawksea on Oct 18, 2017 14:42:12 GMT -8
If they want to bring in a tournament at the end, then they should put it in the stadium of whoever wins the conference regular season to give that team an advantage, and to make sure that it will sell out. Going to Sacramento won't draw any fans to it at all. Still not a huge fan of having it, but it would also prevent what happened to us a couple of years ago when Utah won the conference regular season and we were left out of the postseason if we had a conference tournament that we were able to play in. They should also limit it to the top 6 or 8 teams, 11 teams would not work for a tournament.
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Post by OSUprof on Oct 18, 2017 14:51:10 GMT -8
The conference only gets one automatic bid to the post-season tournament. The winner of the conference tournament would get that bid and the guaranteed hosting (not by rule but by membership in a power baseball conference) of a regional that comes with it. The regular season winner might have to travel elsewhere on an at-large bid.
I'm in agreement with the rest of you - bad idea.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 18, 2017 14:52:02 GMT -8
Dumb idea... Sac is dumb locale...
But, if it comes to pass the regular season winner hosts top 8. Bottom 6 play one another... 6v11, 7v10, 8v9... higher seed hosts.
The three winners come to 8 team tourney... #1/host seed gets lowest remaining seed in prime TV spot opening day, #2 the next and so on.
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 18, 2017 20:00:55 GMT -8
Why does it work in the SEC...ACC?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 18, 2017 21:40:17 GMT -8
The conference only gets one automatic bid to the post-season tournament. The winner of the conference tournament would get that bid and the guaranteed hosting (not by rule but by membership in a power baseball conference) of a regional that comes with it. The regular season winner might have to travel elsewhere on an at-large bid. I'm in agreement with the rest of you - bad idea. Casey has come out in favor of a conference tournament in the past. RPI is set up to reward teams that play more conference games. Plus, it eliminates the problem of Oregon State last year, trying to find a team that does not play in a tournament the final weekend. The SEC plays 30 conference games and a conference tournament. It seems to kill them every year, amiright? I am not sure about holding a tournament in the Central Valley, but I really like the idea of a conference tournament. The Pac-12 can finally compete with the ACC and SEC. Great! |
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 18, 2017 22:40:43 GMT -8
The conference only gets one automatic bid to the post-season tournament. The winner of the conference tournament would get that bid and the guaranteed hosting (not by rule but by membership in a power baseball conference) of a regional that comes with it. The regular season winner might have to travel elsewhere on an at-large bid. I'm in agreement with the rest of you - bad idea. Casey has come out in favor of a conference tournament in the past. RPI is set up to reward teams that play more conference games. Plus, it eliminates the problem of Oregon State last year, trying to find a team that does not play in a tournament the final weekend. The SEC plays 30 conference games and a conference tournament. It seems to kill them every year, amiright? I am not sure about holding a tournament in the Central Valley, but I really like the idea of a conference tournament. The Pac-12 can finally compete with the ACC and SEC. Great! We will remove the problem of getting OOC opponents during the last weekend (only the team that has a conference bye on the last weekend of the season), but we will have to find a lot more mid-week opponents to come up with 56 regular-season games. |
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