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Post by TonySoprano on Jan 17, 2016 20:30:42 GMT -8
in the world of sports and for embarrassing Oregon State University.
Your act was disgraceful and not worthy of being a Beaver.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2016 20:33:21 GMT -8
And what's also maddening is he shouldn't have been in the game (especially playing center) in the first place
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jan 17, 2016 20:39:17 GMT -8
Please, the officiating was the embarrassing part. Greg Gottlieb is eviscerating the refs on twitter right now. Tinkle opened his postgame interview with "It's a joke." We played zone, Utah played an aggressive man defense and shot 14 more 3-point attempts - AND YET, the foul total was 23-8 in the last minute. It's indefensible. This game was literally stolen from OSU.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 20:53:03 GMT -8
Unexcusable. No matter how bad the officiating is. No Beaver should ever pull a Dick Harter... especially to a referee.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2016 21:20:30 GMT -8
Well it was a little less obvious than when their 7 footer took Reid's legs out from under him a few seconds before
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Post by kvgeorge on Jan 17, 2016 21:28:09 GMT -8
I don't think it was intentional in 4 years Jarmal has never shown anything remotely like this. I think he slipped and his reaction to the T is why I think so. Throwing his hands in the air. If he wanted to take out a ref he would have gotten up and confronted hi, He went to the bench and told coach. Not the move of a guy who just intentionally threw the game away.
May as well say he did it to cove a point shave.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 17, 2016 21:31:40 GMT -8
I don't think it was intentional in 4 years Jarmal has never shown anything remotely like this. I think he slipped and his reaction to the T is why I think so. Throwing his hands in the air. If he wanted to take out a ref he would have gotten up and confronted hi, He went to the bench and told coach. Not the move of a guy who just intentionally threw the game away. May as well say he did it to cove a point shave. Um, ok. Sure. He slipped.
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 17, 2016 21:36:51 GMT -8
Well, Jarmal did just get blocked below the knees with no call, so I'm guessing his blood pressure was spiking at that moment - I'm going with intentional. He also had shortly before been called for a blocking foul when he was standing straight up and probably flopped after a push-off by Utah's center. Was an absurd call, was either a charge or a no-call. THere's no excuse for it, but the league needs to also review and discipline that crew for allowing a situation where the team sees the game blatantly as as 5 on 8, and minds start being lost. Replay here: espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14593005
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Post by avidbeaver on Jan 17, 2016 21:37:52 GMT -8
The refs were a joke. Utah definitely got the better of the officiating. I didn't see the incident with Reid and the official. I was away from the television for a few minutes and came back shortly after it. So, I can't comment on that but I will tape the rerun and watch it to see what happened. Overall a bad way to end the trip.
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Post by avidbeaver on Jan 17, 2016 21:51:01 GMT -8
Just saw the play on a link from another poster. It was pretty obvious that Reid stuck his foot out there for the ref to trip over. I don't know what possible excuse he could give that would convince anyone he wasn't trying to trip the referee. It appears the ref got that call correct. The refs were still a joke.
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Post by ag87 on Jan 17, 2016 21:54:20 GMT -8
I hope Jarmel does not miss more than one game. Clearly he should not have tripped the ref. But arguing in his defense it was in the heat of the moment and he was getting mugged while the refs pretended not to notice.
OSU wins this game in a fairly officiated game and it is not close. Before the two delay fouls on Utah in the last seconds, the foul count was OSU 24 and Utah 8. This is a jump shooting Utah team that was settling for outside looks. OSU players were driving, getting body-checked, and not going to the foul line. The three officials were Tommy Nunez, John Higgins and Deron White. I'm guessing they were not covering wagers but just thought Utah was better and didnt know how to react when the reality didn't match their preconceived thoughts. I know it's unlikely but I hope this is the last time we see them in a Pac-12 game.
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Post by avidbeaver on Jan 17, 2016 21:55:45 GMT -8
Also from what I saw the Utah player didn't really hit Reid. It appeared Reid was going sideways trying to avoid the Utah player. I didn't really see any contact from the Utah player. Then again, my eyes have deceived me on some occasions.
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Post by gnawitall on Jan 17, 2016 23:44:15 GMT -8
I remember Robinson being frustrated feeling we were constantly disrespected by the officials. I would hate to think that is just our lot at this point.
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Post by nabeav on Jan 18, 2016 1:04:10 GMT -8
Blaming the refs seems a convenient excuse, but the last five minutes, these were OSU's possessions: Shot clock violation Turnover Miss Missed layup Missed layup Miss one of two free throws
OSU made two shots in the last 10 minutes (both layups).
Bottom line, Beavs don't close games out well....the Oregon game being the exception. Even the win against Cal wasn't pretty. Cal was charging pretty hard as OSU seemed content to dribble out the shot clock and throw something up late every time down the floor. If Tinkle misses that turnaround fadeaway from the corner, I don't think OSU wins.
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Post by billsaab on Jan 18, 2016 7:11:38 GMT -8
Was tough to watch. Refs were Bad and we didn't execute. No reason to finish game so poorly. Reid should be punished, and our coaches need to figure out better line up. No excuse to milk the clock and fail to execute. I put that on Coaches. I don't see us as a Tournament Team. We need a lot better Power Forward and Center.
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