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Post by Aspira-beav on Aug 28, 2017 20:35:18 GMT -8
Might be the boss, but XC was speaking the truth. Because if GA calls that prepared he's in the wrong line of work. You are possibly overlooking the remote chance that the coaches instructed, coached, motivated, and the players didn't get the job done. It's been known to happen. That is exactly the point I was trying to convey. If you would follow Gary Anderson off a cliff at this point your just unintelligent. period. Its year three and everything points to another bad year. I would love to be proven wrong but If I were a betting man I would bet against the Beavs at this point for making a bowl game. (purely objective at this point cause of course I wouldn't bet against the beavs cause there my team but if I was not a Beaver fan I would)
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Post by Aspira-beav on Aug 28, 2017 20:44:42 GMT -8
Justjay.... I get it. I get it. Coaches are so judged in so many ways now days on how the deal w/ press etc. We get it right Beav nation?!? A certain guy 2 nice. A certain guy 2 many cliches. There is no right. What coaches have to do is believe in their staff, players, program etc. They live and die by it. What do we judge as fans? Victories baby. This is year 3 and should be judged this way. Players make plays... players win games...coaches get judged by it. Again, I'm a realist 5,6,7 wins PERIOD where do we get five wins? yah exactly...five would be pushing it...I dont know where your heads at but I would definitely not consider 5,6,7 wins to be "realistic"
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 28, 2017 20:52:11 GMT -8
Justjay.... I get it. I get it. Coaches are so judged in so many ways now days on how the deal w/ press etc. We get it right Beav nation?!? A certain guy 2 nice. A certain guy 2 many cliches. There is no right. What coaches have to do is believe in their staff, players, program etc. They live and die by it. What do we judge as fans? Victories baby. This is year 3 and should be judged this way. Players make plays... players win games...coaches get judged by it. Again, I'm a realist 5,6,7 wins PERIOD where do we get five wins? PSU, Cal, uo, one of the Az schools and a surprise or two. For all we know so far CSU is the third or fourth toughest opponent we have this year.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 28, 2017 21:22:05 GMT -8
where do we get five wins? PSU, Cal, uo, one of the Az schools and a surprise or two. For all we know so far CSU is the third or fourth toughest opponent we have this year.In one word, no. CSU is probably the third- or fourth-best team in the Mountain West. If CSU is the third- or fourth-best team that Oregon State plays, the Pac-12 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down. Washington State, Washington, USC, and Stanford are much better. Colorado beat this same Colorado State team by 37. My money is on that game being closer this year but not 37 points closer. I would countenance CSU being the 6th or 7th toughest opponent this year, but 3rd or 4th seems rather far-fetched. This whole thing is very reminiscent about Boise State being great, because they beat us by two touchdowns last year. To listen to some on here, Boise was destined for the CFP. Then, they finished third in the Mountain West.
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Post by beavsaregood on Aug 28, 2017 21:34:36 GMT -8
where do we get five wins? PSU, Cal, uo, one of the Az schools and a surprise or two. For all we know so far CSU is the third or fourth toughest opponent we have this year. Maybe CSU is that tough. I don't think so, though. But, maybe. Bobo is a solid coach. I seriously don't think the away game at Cal is a W. That's a 50/50. Though Cal is down, I think they got a better coach in Wilcox. He's got Beau Baldwin as OC. And Tim DeRuyter as DC. Justin's defensive oriented. He's gonna fix that defense. Offense was never a problem with Cal. I can actually see what Cal is gonna do. Respected tenured coaches as coordinators and a young accomplished DC as HC. I think Cal will beat OSU based on the coaches they have. Away at Cal is not a slam dunk. Even if talent is down. I just think Wilcox and staff can coach up. CGA just has no substance. Both AZ schools (though they're kinda down) is still 50/50 on both schools. Yeah maybe one of the two AZ schools. Maybe CO, though. I hate the Ducks but I don't see the Beavs winning the Civil War in Eugene. Beavs will beat PSU. Then, really curious to see the Beavs host Minn. Could be 5. Could be 3. Could be 1.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 28, 2017 22:50:05 GMT -8
You are possibly overlooking the remote chance that the coaches instructed, coached, motivated, and the players didn't get the job done. It's been known to happen. That is exactly the point I was trying to convey. If you would follow Gary Anderson off a cliff at this point your just unintelligent. period. Its year three and everything points to another bad year. I would love to be proven wrong but If I were a betting man I would bet against the Beavs at this point for making a bowl game. (purely objective at this point cause of course I wouldn't bet against the beavs cause there my team but if I was not a Beaver fan I would) You're.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 29, 2017 4:22:51 GMT -8
This comment can be found in the press conference for psu seen here: at 4:18 I personally was disgusted by this. Anderson is a tough guy and wants to be perceived that way but I think he took it too far in this situation. Saying that a player was "misrepresenting" the team when in all honesty to me it sounded like he was trying to take responsibility for his poor play is inexcusable in my mind. I get your pissed off Anderson but there is no need to take it out on your players...take a deep breath and try some constructive talk with your players. I don't think reading so far into his players comments is healthy or going to get them to play harder for you...if anything quite the opposite. I also found Anderson to have a little bit of a condescending tone to his comments towards the media throughout acting as if certain questions were stupid as found at 6:16. Anderson even went as far as saying Xavier Crawfords comments were "embarrassing". Personally I think Anderson needs to take a dose of his own medicine which he preaches and represent the team better and more professionally and look at what his players are saying objectively rather than taking them as an insult to his preparation of the team. Put away your pride Anderson. It definitely doesn't represent Beaver nation well. Anderson is lucky I am a Beaver fan through thick and thin or else I might have stopped rooting for the Beavers due to this...Truly disappointing. Coach redass.....hahaha great, truly impressive. He turned his post destruction/pre portland state presser into a XC bashing affair, not once but over and over. XC and his friends on the team are not likely to take this well, what the hey, just more transfers in the future. Being coach redass can work...if you win...a lot. Coach redass better start winning.
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Post by thetruebeav on Aug 29, 2017 5:58:03 GMT -8
where do we get five wins? yah exactly...five would be pushing it...I dont know where your heads at but I would definitely not consider 5,6,7 wins to be "realistic" Aspira-beav.... good question and I don't know that and after game 1 it looks hard. I'm saying I'm a realist and thinking 5,6,7 wins should be expected in year 3 from players, coaches and fans. Those aren't unrealistic at all. Now.... will we? Not sure but that's how I will judge after the season. That's why we play a full schedule so all can be analyzed after that. If we did after just one game.... well we all would say that was bad. As I've said many times, I've played and coached at a high level and 18-22 can look terrible one week and good the other. Once again... ball is their court. Players make plays, players win games & coaches are judged on wins.
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Post by zebraworks on Aug 29, 2017 6:54:47 GMT -8
that was the most tense interview I have seen to date and GA knows he's looking like a chump. I suppose there is always a chance that the team can win some and surprise us all but I am not holding my breath. Hopefully we will see some good recruiting of assistant coaches this cycle! the scheming aspect is not good on offense. I think Defense is more about not having guys in shape up front let alone the talent/quicks.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 29, 2017 8:38:05 GMT -8
You are possibly overlooking the remote chance that the coaches instructed, coached, motivated, and the players didn't get the job done. It's been known to happen. That is exactly the point I was trying to convey. If you would follow Gary Anderson off a cliff at this point your just unintelligent. period. Its year three and everything points to another bad year. I would love to be proven wrong but If I were a betting man I would bet against the Beavs at this point for making a bowl game. (purely objective at this point cause of course I wouldn't bet against the beavs cause there my team but if I was not a Beaver fan I would) Just an observation, but if you are going to post in the written word about others being "unintelligent", you would be better served by making yourself not look the same. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalization are all butchered in the above, which in my opinion, diminishes any point you were trying to make. Andersen/It's/because/Beavs/they're. Just a suggestion.
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Post by dK on Aug 29, 2017 9:11:29 GMT -8
I listen to these things every week, and that was definitely the surliest GA has ever been. At one point Gina Mizell seemed so caught off guard by his demeanor that if sounded like she was unsure of if she should even ask her next question. I also got a kick out of Jon Warren asking if a loss like this forces him to adjust his practice routine, and GA saying "our routine has been proven to be effective. We will never change." Yeah, it's from the Whittingham template, right? Ah, F. From the Whittingham tree.........that's nice. I'm gonna vomit. Both Whittingham and Andersen are from the Urban Meyer coaching tree if it makes you feel better.
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Post by bbfan on Aug 29, 2017 10:23:55 GMT -8
For the record I think Colorado State will keep it extremely close if not win vs Colorado. That doesn't mean Osu is a good team right now though
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 29, 2017 10:57:12 GMT -8
That is exactly the point I was trying to convey. If you would follow Gary Anderson off a cliff at this point your just unintelligent. period. Its year three and everything points to another bad year. I would love to be proven wrong but If I were a betting man I would bet against the Beavs at this point for making a bowl game. (purely objective at this point cause of course I wouldn't bet against the beavs cause there my team but if I was not a Beaver fan I would) Just an observation, but if you are going to post in the written word about others being "unintelligent", you would be better served by making yourself not look the same. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalization are all butchered in the above, which in my opinion, diminishes any point you were trying to make. Andersen/It's/because/Beavs/they're. Just a suggestion. You missed "you're". Seeing the phrase "your unintelligent" left me wondering whether I should chuckle or be sad about the grammar.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 29, 2017 11:02:58 GMT -8
For the record I think Colorado State will keep it extremely close if not win vs Colorado. That doesn't mean Osu is a good team right now though l'd bet on CSU to win, at a minimum to beat the spread. I've seen a lot of over-reactions to first game losses on Beaver message boards in the past. I'm guessing this ends up being closer to a BSU/Fresno St/Cincinnati situation than a Sacramento St situation.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 29, 2017 11:18:35 GMT -8
Screw the media.
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