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Post by nforkbeav on Aug 27, 2017 21:42:55 GMT -8
I'm firmly back to my pre-Riley Beaver expectations for football.
As long as the 1 in 1-11 is a CW win the season's a success. Everything else is gravy.
Losses are simply starting to feel like they did back then, expected so no big deal.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 28, 2017 7:41:40 GMT -8
Don't forget that tickets and parking are easier to get!
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Post by osufan2k on Aug 28, 2017 8:12:36 GMT -8
Similar for me, but I'm back to my expectations when Riley was the coach. Back when the season felt like it was over after the first or second week.
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 28, 2017 8:45:42 GMT -8
Similar for me, but I'm back to my expectations when Riley was the coach. Back when the season felt like it was over after the first or second week. I would give my left and right nut to be back to the expectations of Riley. Those expectations were 8 wins and a bowl game as a minimum effort. We wanted him gone because it looked like he was struggling to maintain 8 wins and a bowl game as a minimum effort. Lets not all forget this. Our desire was for a coach that could turn the corner and turn 9-4 into 10-2 or 11-1... We went backwards... really, really, really far backwards. We are honest to god so noncompetitive and incompetent it is safe to compare us to 1980's and 1990's OSU. We are that far out of the league of other Pac-12 teams right now.
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Post by osufan2k on Aug 28, 2017 9:11:09 GMT -8
I'm not saying we're competitive... I agree that we've went backwards as a program, and it sucks. My support for GA is pretty much gone.
Riley won us more games, yes, but the start to this season feels exactly the same as it did with many season under Riley. Excitement builds up over the off-season, then a huge letdown in game 1 or 2. I'm back to feeling like there is no reason to get excited for an upcoming season or game... and that's how I felt with Riley as the coach.
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Post by sabzi on Aug 28, 2017 11:18:23 GMT -8
8 wins is never going to be the expectation for Oregon State in the Pac-12. CTC my friends.
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Post by badwack on Aug 28, 2017 11:28:02 GMT -8
I call it No Stress Football. No reason to worry about Spring Football, Summer Conditioning, Recruiting or being excited about the first Game in the Fall. What difference does it make? It's all good.
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Post by orangeattack on Aug 28, 2017 11:33:28 GMT -8
I'm not saying we're competitive... I agree that we've went backwards as a program, and it sucks. My support for GA is pretty much gone. Riley won us more games, yes, but the start to this season feels exactly the same as it did with many season under Riley. Excitement builds up over the off-season, then a huge letdown in game 1 or 2. I'm back to feeling like there is no reason to get excited for an upcoming season or game... and that's how I felt with Riley as the coach. One of (if not the biggest) complaints about Riley was the slow starts to the season. Andersen running a "simpler" offense we were supposed to be able to get the team playing competitive early. So far we're not seeing that. I still can't believe we asked a first-time starter coming straight out of JC to throw the ball 50 times for us to win our first game, when we had a stable of running backs that we could have ground them into the dust with..
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 28, 2017 12:07:24 GMT -8
I'm not saying we're competitive... I agree that we've went backwards as a program, and it sucks. My support for GA is pretty much gone. Riley won us more games, yes, but the start to this season feels exactly the same as it did with many season under Riley. Excitement builds up over the off-season, then a huge letdown in game 1 or 2. I'm back to feeling like there is no reason to get excited for an upcoming season or game... and that's how I felt with Riley as the coach. One of (if not the biggest) complaints about Riley was the slow starts to the season. Andersen running a "simpler" offense we were supposed to be able to get the team playing competitive early. So far we're not seeing that. I still can't believe we asked a first-time starter coming straight out of JC to throw the ball 50 times for us to win our first game, when we had a stable of running backs that we could have ground them into the dust with.. However, leaning on a stable of RBs also means you have a creative an aggressive running attack plan. Not just a repeated half hearted read option hand off that is easily defended. It isn't as easy as just saying run more! our coaches need to have plays that get the RBs open.
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Post by osufan2k on Aug 28, 2017 12:24:13 GMT -8
One of (if not the biggest) complaints about Riley was the slow starts to the season. Andersen running a "simpler" offense we were supposed to be able to get the team playing competitive early. So far we're not seeing that. I still can't believe we asked a first-time starter coming straight out of JC to throw the ball 50 times for us to win our first game, when we had a stable of running backs that we could have ground them into the dust with.. However, leaning on a stable of RBs also means you have a creative an aggressive running attack plan. Not just a repeated half hearted read option hand off that is easily defended. It isn't as easy as just saying run more! our coaches need to have plays that get the RBs open. Yep... agree with both of these. I really thought the game plan was going to be run run run, and then run more. Mix in short passes, or high percentage plays that get the ball out of the QB's hand quick. I don't think anyone envisioned Luton throwing 50 passes in his first start. Not a smart way to build confidence in him or the team. The offensive game calling to end the Civil War last year is how I thought they would start this season.
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Post by zebraworks on Aug 28, 2017 12:26:40 GMT -8
However, leaning on a stable of RBs also means you have a creative an aggressive running attack plan. Not just a repeated half hearted read option hand off that is easily defended. It isn't as easy as just saying run more! our coaches need to have plays that get the RBs open. exactly, maybe GA needs to get on the phone with his Buddy Alvarez and get some running game tips?? Or consult with a few HS coaches in Oregon that focus on running game. seriously.
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Post by nforkbeav on Aug 28, 2017 12:40:44 GMT -8
I'm not saying we're competitive... I agree that we've went backwards as a program, and it sucks. My support for GA is pretty much gone. Riley won us more games, yes, but the start to this season feels exactly the same as it did with many season under Riley. Excitement builds up over the off-season, then a huge letdown in game 1 or 2. I'm back to feeling like there is no reason to get excited for an upcoming season or game... and that's how I felt with Riley as the coach. Th Starting seasons with top 10 opponents, especially on the road, losing is generally the outcome much more often than not. The seasons we played LSU, Louisville, Penn St, Cincy, Boise, and TCU on the road they all eventually proved to be end of season top 10 teams. The notion that losing those games was a "huge letdown" is telling in some ways. The fact we felt there was a good chance we could win those games going into them in spite every logical indicator suggesting we wouldn't, shows how confident we came to feel in our coaches ability to pull off the big upset. In contrast, I didn't have high hopes we would beat an unranked non-power 5 team on the road going into the CSU game. I just haven't seen anything yet to give me confidence in this staff and raise my hopes so I don't have much in the way of expectations anymore. After 3 years lost in establishing an offensive system, or the way in which our QB's have been managed/mismanaged, I'll take a CW win and call it a good season. That's where I'm at.
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Post by biggieorange on Aug 29, 2017 7:04:43 GMT -8
I'm not saying we're competitive... I agree that we've went backwards as a program, and it sucks. My support for GA is pretty much gone. Riley won us more games, yes, but the start to this season feels exactly the same as it did with many season under Riley. Excitement builds up over the off-season, then a huge letdown in game 1 or 2. I'm back to feeling like there is no reason to get excited for an upcoming season or game... and that's how I felt with Riley as the coach. One of (if not the biggest) complaints about Riley was the slow starts to the season. Andersen running a "simpler" offense we were supposed to be able to get the team playing competitive early. So far we're not seeing that. I still can't believe we asked a first-time starter coming straight out of JC to throw the ball 50 times for us to win our first game, when we had a stable of running backs that we could have ground them into the dust with.. This was definitely an area that I felt OSU would be better at as well. So far what we are seeing is what I wrote in another post, much of Mike Riley's success at OSU was due to running a complicated offense that our less gifted athletes could be in an advantage. Basically exactly what CSU did to the Beavers this weekend. We just got Mike Riley'd. A very accurate smart QB with a decent arm throwing to a future NFL WR made a more physically talented defense look silly. Andersin got out schemed. I'm sure our bench press numbers are better than CSU though, so we can hang our hat on that.
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Post by seastape on Aug 29, 2017 9:36:27 GMT -8
Similar for me, but I'm back to my expectations when Riley was the coach. Back when the season felt like it was over after the first or second week. I suspect your expectations might be the same next year when we start off the season at Ohio State.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 29, 2017 9:39:24 GMT -8
Similar for me, but I'm back to my expectations when Riley was the coach. Back when the season felt like it was over after the first or second week. I suspect your expectations might be the same next year when we start off the season at Ohio State. Heard from two sources it was/will be mutually cancelled... poetically so!
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