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Post by TheGlove on Aug 27, 2017 10:50:56 GMT -8
I have heard it said that great teams reflect the personality of their head coach. If that is at least partially true then I would say that in the last three years and one game I have not seen the kind of physical and mental toughness the coach so clearly expouses. I would be interested to hear what he said in private to the team after the game. He took responsibility, said they were not prepared to play and they need o get better. Can't fault that. But I do wonder if he is so much into competing and being "tough" if he has scared players to the point of where they cannot play with the confidence and abandon necessary to really "compete." One game does not a season make but at what point is it clear that whatever the philosophy it is not working. I do not think we are there yet but the time has come to expect more than what we say yesterday. You know what's sticking in my craw a little bit? "Player's make plays, players win games" I know it's supposed to be motivational for the young men, but what about this addendum: "Coaches have the duty to prepare the players to make play, and to win games" Right now, the coaching staff needs to do a better job. In all phases of their jobs- motivation, scheming, play calling, subbing, training, etc. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 27, 2017 10:53:27 GMT -8
"... our job is to put players in the position to win championships.... If you're not doing that you're in the wrong profession."
Gary Andersen
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 27, 2017 11:06:08 GMT -8
"... our job is to put players in the position to win championships.... If you're not doing that you're in the wrong profession." Gary Andersen Welcome back baseba1111 |
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Post by gotmilk on Aug 27, 2017 11:31:14 GMT -8
For those that never liked the MR 'aw shucks' press conference and interviews, but love the GA toughness machismo. Pettibone and Avezzano had that too. But what they didn't have was an offensive philosophy that could win games at this level. Just Like GA. MR did, aw shucks he isn't our coach anymore.
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Post by beavsaregood on Aug 27, 2017 11:38:49 GMT -8
"... our job is to put players in the position to win championships.... If you're not doing that you're in the wrong profession." Gary Andersen He talks a really good game but................. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 27, 2017 11:44:41 GMT -8
"... our job is to put players in the position to win championships.... If you're not doing that you're in the wrong profession." Gary Andersen Welcome back baseba1111Thx... |
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 27, 2017 12:30:35 GMT -8
Riley had success at OSU, Andersen hasn't. Until he does there is no comparison between Andersen and coaches like Riley or Erickson. Until Andersen actually wins some games we should stick to comparing him only to Pettibone, Kragthorpe, Avezzano, or Fertig. LOL - how about ALL coach comparisons (meaning past/ present) stop because it is utterly useless. There is no way to compare any two coaches that have coached at OSU, if they coached different era's. We should let all the comparisons go, unless it is comparing active coaches, coaching in similar situations at similar schools, simultaneously. As has been pointed out, although CGA has yet to really earn his salary, MMR hasn't been setting the world on fire at Nebby either. Been doing much better than CGA thus far, but I don't recall Nebby being in the current discussion for conference champion, let alone "the natty" (sorry had to say it - really funny given the dumpster fire at tosdtr  ) |
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Post by orangeattack on Aug 27, 2017 13:23:44 GMT -8
the bad call on luton/togiai TD really shifted the momentum. Good teams can overcome adversity, not sure we are there yet. nah man... pretty sure you can hang it all on an opening series pick 6 to start the 3rd quarter, right after CSU had a clock munching drive for a FG... then us responding with another INT 3 passes later that resulted in another FG. Luton was 18/31 208 yards and a TD in the first half he was 9/16 for 94 yards 1 TD and 3 INTs in the second half. That is just falling apart. If you bring your brand-new starter who is a JC transfer out and ask him to throw the ball 50 times instead of using arguably the best backfield in the conference, you're doing something wrong. This was a bad game plan. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 27, 2017 13:36:27 GMT -8
nah man... pretty sure you can hang it all on an opening series pick 6 to start the 3rd quarter, right after CSU had a clock munching drive for a FG... then us responding with another INT 3 passes later that resulted in another FG. Luton was 18/31 208 yards and a TD in the first half he was 9/16 for 94 yards 1 TD and 3 INTs in the second half. That is just falling apart. If you bring your brand-new starter who is a JC transfer out and ask him to throw the ball 50 times instead of using arguably the best backfield in the conference, you're doing something wrong. This was a bad game plan. I do not disagree one bit. But the fact does remain, Luton collapsed in the second half. I would agree that ultimately he was set up to fail by a lack of balance and a game plan that was too aggressive in attacking vertical passing, which is low percentage, higher risk passes (though comically, the pick six was on a middle screen) the thought to go out and get in a boat race with a team whose strength is offense is ludicrous. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 13:42:06 GMT -8
nah man... pretty sure you can hang it all on an opening series pick 6 to start the 3rd quarter, right after CSU had a clock munching drive for a FG... then us responding with another INT 3 passes later that resulted in another FG. Luton was 18/31 208 yards and a TD in the first half he was 9/16 for 94 yards 1 TD and 3 INTs in the second half. That is just falling apart. If you bring your brand-new starter who is a JC transfer out and ask him to throw the ball 50 times instead of using arguably the best backfield in the conference, you're doing something wrong. This was a bad game plan. What if.... What if CGA's game plan was to see our new passing game--test it out, so to speak, and see what he really has? I mean, our running game is pretty clear, but look at those receiving numbers (except the INTs)! We haven't seen anything like those numbers since Mannion. So what if CGA approached this game as a sort of preseason game? A tune up game? A game to send notice to the Pac that, not only do we still have Nall, but we have a guy that can sling the ball and a helluva tight end? Can't wait to get Seth Collins back on the field! The offense doesn't worry me a bit. The first half showed how potent it can be. Our defense worries me. We have to make great strides in that department before we can hang with the likes of WSU and UW, let alone USC. |
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Post by 93beav on Aug 27, 2017 13:59:32 GMT -8
Is it possible GA is a decent defensive coach but a horrible HC?
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Post by 93beav on Aug 27, 2017 14:00:18 GMT -8
Actually, he is proposing to fire the head coach who has a winning record of .240 after 25 games, which doesn't seem so unreasonable. I'd like Andersen to finish out the season, but if we see another 4-8 season that is reflective of the game against Colorado St., then what point would there be in keeping Andersen around? has any school ever fired their coach after game one? Wilky? I'm on the record. 8 wins this year or gtfo. That just got s little bit harder to do. Just to clarify, by gtfo you're saying you want GA fired at the end of the year? (If he doesn't produce 8 wins). What are the odds of 8 wins at this point? 15%? |
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 27, 2017 14:21:48 GMT -8
has any school ever fired their coach after game one? Wilky? I'm on the record. 8 wins this year or gtfo. That just got s little bit harder to do. Just to clarify, by gtfo you're saying you want GA fired at the end of the year? (If he doesn't produce 8 wins). What are the odds of 8 wins at this point? 15%? That's my position and I'm sticking with it. |
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Post by gotmilk on Aug 27, 2017 14:44:19 GMT -8
has any school ever fired their coach after game one? Wilky? I'm on the record. 8 wins this year or gtfo. That just got s little bit harder to do. Just to clarify, by gtfo you're saying you want GA fired at the end of the year? (If he doesn't produce 8 wins). What are the odds of 8 wins at this point? 15%? 0.0 |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 27, 2017 23:30:30 GMT -8
Actually, he is proposing to fire the head coach who has a winning record of .240 after 25 games, which doesn't seem so unreasonable. I'd like Andersen to finish out the season, but if we see another 4-8 season that is reflective of the game against Colorado St., then what point would there be in keeping Andersen around? has any school ever fired their coach after game one? Wilky? I'm on the record. 8 wins this year or gtfo. That just got s little bit harder to do. You need to tag me, if you want me to respond.........  I can name at least one coach fired after two games, but I am having hard pressed remembering a coach fired after one. I can say that the FBS coach that last lost to Portland State was fired that day, so there is that. |
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