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Post by beavsaregood on Aug 28, 2017 22:01:14 GMT -8
And CGA has gotten us fans what? A seemingly disingenuous presser after a horrible loss? 6-19. 0-1 in year 3.
As said in another post, let's not compare CGA to MR. Like why? MR won and got the Beavs out of the dark ages. He's gone to Nebby, anyways. If you want, compare CGA to Kragthorpe, Avezanno, and Pettibone.
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Post by BeaverNut23 on Aug 28, 2017 22:03:52 GMT -8
And CGA has gotten us fans what? A seemingly disingenuous presser after a horrible loss? 6-19. 0-1 in year 3. As said in another post, let's not compare CGA to MR. Like why? MR won and got the Beavs out of the dark ages. He's gone to Nebby, anyways. If you want, compare CGA to Kragthorpe, Avezanno, and Pettibone. CGA has gotten us fans a much needed civil war win to snap the ugly yucks 8 game winning streak against us, something we truly needed we stop the ugly vile yucks from making history at our home field.
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Post by seastape on Aug 28, 2017 22:17:43 GMT -8
This is tired and childish. Tell that to the people on here who expect a 3rd year coach to make a very young team full of freshman team do huge things right off the bat! Lol! So...what are the "huge things right off the bat" that we are expecting? Because frankly, expecting a 3rd year Pac 12 coach to be competitive on the road at a good, but not great, mid-major team does not seem like such a "huge thing[] right off the bat..." In fact, it seems like a normal thing. Hell, I don't blame people or think them unreasonable for expecting that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should win that game. I suspect that the people on this board who have expressed some deep disappointment (and worse) after Saturday's loss (that includes me) would be in a far better mood if our beloved Beavers had been competitive in the game...you know, like if we had actually had a chance to win the game halfway through the fourth quarter. That's not a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach. Is it such a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 shouldn't need to start a bunch of freshmen and should, by his 3rd year, be putting some experienced players on the field? Is it a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should have a solidified starter at QB instead of auditioning for his 3rd new starter in as many years entering into fall camp? What "huge things right off the bat" are so many of us expecting from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach that seems so unreasonable in your eyes?
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Post by BeaverNut23 on Aug 28, 2017 22:50:03 GMT -8
Tell that to the people on here who expect a 3rd year coach to make a very young team full of freshman team do huge things right off the bat! Lol! So...what are the "huge things right off the bat" that we are expecting? Because frankly, expecting a 3rd year Pac 12 coach to be competitive on the road at a good, but not great, mid-major team does not seem like such a "huge thing[] right off the bat..." In fact, it seems like a normal thing. Hell, I don't blame people or think them unreasonable for expecting that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should win that game. I suspect that the people on this board who have expressed some deep disappointment (and worse) after Saturday's loss (that includes me) would be in a far better mood if our beloved Beavers had been competitive in the game...you know, like if we had actually had a chance to win the game halfway through the fourth quarter. That's not a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach. Is it such a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 shouldn't need to start a bunch of freshmen and should, by his 3rd year, be putting some experienced players on the field? Is it a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should have a solidified starter at QB instead of auditioning for his 3rd new starter in as many years entering into fall camp? What "huge things right off the bat" are so many of us expecting from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach that seems so unreasonable in your eyes? Huge things such as a flawless perfect performance of a dominating win in a new stadium with a hot turf with a 3rd year new coach still putting the pieces together and expecting freshman to be seasoned off the bat with a flawless performance against a hyped team super excited to play in front of a sold out stadium. People r chewing out the Beavs and CGA like it was the championship game!! I mean come on, like even I was half certain the Beavs would lose in Colorado, cuz 1. The Beavers bench is right next to the Rams student section where the students can get loud and crazy to annoy and rattle the Beavs. 2. The hot turf that the grounds crew has been trying to cool down all week that reached 117 cooking our young team out of the field in the second half. 3. Our young freshman experience a first time big time nationally televised game in a very hostile new environment with a sold out crowd. Plus when I saw CGA take over I knew it would take 4-5 years or longer to get a winning season, I'm not expect a good record on year three, I'm thinking the Beavs will still struggle a lot in year three and then less on year four. THEN in year 5 under CGA the Beavs should have a winning record and from then on CGA and the Beavs should be better since they can't make up any more excuses for a rebuilding year. Honestly team rebuilds take bout 3-4 or sometimes 5 years, and they're all gunna be losing seasons. So I'm not expect a winning season this year or the next. Cuz CGA is still trying to work with what he is for and learning the conference. He hasn't played USC, or Arizona state yet and those two games r gunna be riddled with errors and blunders, which I'm expecting cuz CGA has never played em before. I'm being real. My point by "people expecting huge things off the bat" is that they demand a year three as a .500 season. Well guess what, it's not, it's gunna be a 4-8 or 5-7 or at worst 3-9 season. And next year it will probs be another 4-8 season aswell. And I'm straight up ok with that. Cuz I know rebuilds take a long time for a team to be put together for a winning season. I'm in with CGA for good, I'll ride out the long rebuild that will take another year or two longer. Why do I think rebuilds take so long like 5 years? Well, look at call under sonny dikes, look at USC going from coach to coach, look at Colorado when they joined the PAC 12 they all took longer than 2 or 3 years. Granted Colorado was less than 3. But USC and cal took a long time to rebuild to a winning program. I'm not ever gunna abandon the CGA train.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 28, 2017 23:03:28 GMT -8
So...what are the "huge things right off the bat" that we are expecting? Because frankly, expecting a 3rd year Pac 12 coach to be competitive on the road at a good, but not great, mid-major team does not seem like such a "huge thing[] right off the bat..." In fact, it seems like a normal thing. Hell, I don't blame people or think them unreasonable for expecting that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should win that game. I suspect that the people on this board who have expressed some deep disappointment (and worse) after Saturday's loss (that includes me) would be in a far better mood if our beloved Beavers had been competitive in the game...you know, like if we had actually had a chance to win the game halfway through the fourth quarter. That's not a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach. Is it such a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 shouldn't need to start a bunch of freshmen and should, by his 3rd year, be putting some experienced players on the field? Is it a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should have a solidified starter at QB instead of auditioning for his 3rd new starter in as many years entering into fall camp? What "huge things right off the bat" are so many of us expecting from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach that seems so unreasonable in your eyes? Huge things such as a flawless perfect performance of a dominating win in a new stadium with a hot turf with a 3rd year new coach still putting the pieces together and expecting freshman to be seasoned off the bat with a flawless performance against a hyped team super excited to play in front of a sold out stadium. People r chewing out the Beavs and CGA like it was the championship game!! I mean come on, like even I was half certain the Beavs would lose in Colorado, cuz 1. The Beavers bench is right next to the Rams student section where the students can get loud and crazy to annoy and rattle the Beavs. 2. The hot turf that the grounds crew has been trying to cool down all week that reached 117 cooking our young team out of the field in the second half. 3. Our young freshman experience a first time big time nationally televised game in a very hostile new environment with a sold out crowd. Plus when I saw CGA take over I knew it would take 4-5 years or longer to get a winning season, I'm not expect a good record on year three, I'm thinking the Beavs will still struggle a lot in year three and then less on year four. THEN in year 5 under CGA the Beavs should have a winning record and from then on CGA and the Beavs should be better since they can't make up any more excuses for a rebuilding year. Honestly team rebuilds take bout 3-4 or sometimes 5 years, and they're all gunna be losing seasons. So I'm not expect a winning season this year or the next. Cuz CGA is still trying to work with what he is for and learning the conference. He hasn't played USC, or Arizona state yet and those two games r gunna be riddled with errors and blunders, which I'm expecting cuz CGA has never played em before. I'm being real. My point by "people expecting huge things off the bat" is that they demand a year three as a .500 season. Well guess what, it's not, it's gunna be a 4-8 or 5-7 or at worst 3-9 season. And next year it will probs be another 4-8 season aswell. And I'm straight up ok with that. Cuz I know rebuilds take a long time for a team to be put together for a winning season. I'm in with CGA for good, I'll ride out the long rebuild that will take another year or two longer. Why do I think rebuilds take so long like 5 years? Well, look at call under sonny dikes, look at USC going from coach to coach, look at Colorado when they joined the PAC 12 they all took longer than 2 or 3 years. Granted Colorado was less than 3. But USC and cal took a long time to rebuild to a winning program. I'm not ever gunna abandon the CGA train. Why would you? Excuses are unlimited. And, as of now this isn't anything but a Lionel... certainly not a "big boy" train.
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Post by beaver94 on Aug 28, 2017 23:06:24 GMT -8
So...what are the "huge things right off the bat" that we are expecting? Because frankly, expecting a 3rd year Pac 12 coach to be competitive on the road at a good, but not great, mid-major team does not seem like such a "huge thing[] right off the bat..." In fact, it seems like a normal thing. Hell, I don't blame people or think them unreasonable for expecting that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should win that game. I suspect that the people on this board who have expressed some deep disappointment (and worse) after Saturday's loss (that includes me) would be in a far better mood if our beloved Beavers had been competitive in the game...you know, like if we had actually had a chance to win the game halfway through the fourth quarter. That's not a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach. Is it such a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 shouldn't need to start a bunch of freshmen and should, by his 3rd year, be putting some experienced players on the field? Is it a "huge thing[] right off the bat" to expect that a 3rd year Pac 12 coach should have a solidified starter at QB instead of auditioning for his 3rd new starter in as many years entering into fall camp? What "huge things right off the bat" are so many of us expecting from a 3rd year Pac 12 coach that seems so unreasonable in your eyes? Huge things such as a flawless perfect performance of a dominating win in a new stadium with a hot turf with a 3rd year new coach still putting the pieces together and expecting freshman to be seasoned off the bat with a flawless performance against a hyped team super excited to play in front of a sold out stadium. People r chewing out the Beavs and CGA like it was the championship game!! I mean come on, like even I was half certain the Beavs would lose in Colorado, cuz 1. The Beavers bench is right next to the Rams student section where the students can get loud and crazy to annoy and rattle the Beavs. 2. The hot turf that the grounds crew has been trying to cool down all week that reached 117 cooking our young team out of the field in the second half. 3. Our young freshman experience a first time big time nationally televised game in a very hostile new environment with a sold out crowd. Plus when I saw CGA take over I knew it would take 4-5 years or longer to get a winning season, I'm not expect a good record on year three, I'm thinking the Beavs will still struggle a lot in year three and then less on year four. THEN in year 5 under CGA the Beavs should have a winning record and from then on CGA and the Beavs should be better since they can't make up any more excuses for a rebuilding year. Honestly team rebuilds take bout 3-4 or sometimes 5 years, and they're all gunna be losing seasons. So I'm not expect a winning season this year or the next. Cuz CGA is still trying to work with what he is for and learning the conference. He hasn't played USC, or Arizona state yet and those two games r gunna be riddled with errors and blunders, which I'm expecting cuz CGA has never played em before. I'm being real. My point by "people expecting huge things off the bat" is that they demand a year three as a .500 season. Well guess what, it's not, it's gunna be a 4-8 or 5-7 or at worst 3-9 season. And next year it will probs be another 4-8 season aswell. And I'm straight up ok with that. Cuz I know rebuilds take a long time for a team to be put together for a winning season. I'm in with CGA for good, I'll ride out the long rebuild that will take another year or two longer. Why do I think rebuilds take so long like 5 years? Well, look at call under sonny dikes, look at USC going from coach to coach, look at Colorado when they joined the PAC 12 they all took longer than 2 or 3 years. Granted Colorado was less than 3. But USC and cal took a long time to rebuild to a winning program. I'm not ever gunna abandon the CGA train. I've seen you reference the young freshman a couple times now. How many freshman do you think are starting or playing large rolls on this team, and why do you think in year three having a lot of freshman playing those rolls would be acceptable?
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 29, 2017 4:08:56 GMT -8
Huge things such as a flawless perfect performance of a dominating win in a new stadium with a hot turf with a 3rd year new coach still putting the pieces together and expecting freshman to be seasoned off the bat with a flawless performance against a hyped team super excited to play in front of a sold out stadium. People r chewing out the Beavs and CGA like it was the championship game!! I mean come on, like even I was half certain the Beavs would lose in Colorado, cuz 1. The Beavers bench is right next to the Rams student section where the students can get loud and crazy to annoy and rattle the Beavs. 2. The hot turf that the grounds crew has been trying to cool down all week that reached 117 cooking our young team out of the field in the second half. 3. Our young freshman experience a first time big time nationally televised game in a very hostile new environment with a sold out crowd. Plus when I saw CGA take over I knew it would take 4-5 years or longer to get a winning season, I'm not expect a good record on year three, I'm thinking the Beavs will still struggle a lot in year three and then less on year four. THEN in year 5 under CGA the Beavs should have a winning record and from then on CGA and the Beavs should be better since they can't make up any more excuses for a rebuilding year. Honestly team rebuilds take bout 3-4 or sometimes 5 years, and they're all gunna be losing seasons. So I'm not expect a winning season this year or the next. Cuz CGA is still trying to work with what he is for and learning the conference. He hasn't played USC, or Arizona state yet and those two games r gunna be riddled with errors and blunders, which I'm expecting cuz CGA has never played em before. I'm being real. My point by "people expecting huge things off the bat" is that they demand a year three as a .500 season. Well guess what, it's not, it's gunna be a 4-8 or 5-7 or at worst 3-9 season. And next year it will probs be another 4-8 season aswell. And I'm straight up ok with that. Cuz I know rebuilds take a long time for a team to be put together for a winning season. I'm in with CGA for good, I'll ride out the long rebuild that will take another year or two longer. Why do I think rebuilds take so long like 5 years? Well, look at call under sonny dikes, look at USC going from coach to coach, look at Colorado when they joined the PAC 12 they all took longer than 2 or 3 years. Granted Colorado was less than 3. But USC and cal took a long time to rebuild to a winning program. I'm not ever gunna abandon the CGA train. I've seen you reference the young freshman a couple times now. How many freshman do you think are starting or playing large rolls on this team, and why do you think in year three having a lot of freshman playing those rolls would be acceptable? I think CGA said in his presser that 2 freshmen played. Of course it doesn't matter, and nut is clearly not worth responding to, let alone spending the time trying to decipher what he has written. Don't waste your time.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 29, 2017 5:01:21 GMT -8
USC took a long time to rebuild a winning program? They've only had 3 losing seasons since 1961, and none since 2000.
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Post by nabeav on Aug 29, 2017 5:50:12 GMT -8
BeaverNut23 - you're OK with four straight losing seasons? You realize that previous coach who smiled and hugged his players during the losses that so clearly tied you up in knots had four losing seasons in his twelve year stretch as head coach, right? You say this season could be 3-9 "at worst" and you're OK with that. You do realize that would be three straight seasons of four or fewer wins, something that hasn't happened at Oregon State since before many OSU students were even born? I don't understand why it's OK for this coach to fail so hard for so long. And if you say "the cupboard was bare and Riley ran this program into the ground" I will remind you that if 5-7 is your definition of "the ground" then Gary Andersen has been tunneling around in the dirt like a mole for going on three years now.
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 29, 2017 7:09:45 GMT -8
Mr Smiley got Beavs to a bunch of bowls, my expectations have dropped to just getting to 500 True, But, Mr Smiley cost the Beavs a lot of important games such as, 2009: The loss against Sacramento State in Reser!!! 2009: The Civil War... 2010: loss to Washington is Seattle in 2OT... 2012: Alamo Bowl game against Texas!!! 2012: loss to Washington as the #7 team in the country in Seattle! 2013: The Civil War... 2013: The loss against Eastern Washington in Reser 2013: The loss against a struggling USC with a new coach in Reser... And those are to name a handful of games the "Mr. Smiley" cost us. who gives a s%#t? Nothing about what you said makes 6-19 any better in any conceivable way. I can make a list 19 games long that CGA cost us... When you are elbow deep up your own ass to come up with excuses why Riley sucked and CGA is still the truth, the way and the light, you know your argument sucks.
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Post by nforkbeav on Aug 29, 2017 7:55:07 GMT -8
BeaverNut23 - \ And if you say "the cupboard was bare and Riley ran this program into the ground" I will remind you that if 5-7 is your definition of "the ground" then Gary Andersen has been tunneling around in the dirt like a mole for going on three years now. That was a much needed funny this a.m.. Good job.
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 29, 2017 8:02:10 GMT -8
BeaverNut23 - you're OK with four straight losing seasons? You realize that previous coach who smiled and hugged his players during the losses that so clearly tied you up in knots had four losing seasons in his twelve year stretch as head coach, right? You say this season could be 3-9 "at worst" and you're OK with that. You do realize that would be three straight seasons of four or fewer wins, something that hasn't happened at Oregon State since before many OSU students were even born? I don't understand why it's OK for this coach to fail so hard for so long. And if you say "the cupboard was bare and Riley ran this program into the ground" I will remind you that if 5-7 is your definition of "the ground" then Gary Andersen has been tunneling around in the dirt like a mole for going on three years now. I mean, for serious, all we had left after 2014 was a pocket passing QB that was run off and immediately started for Florida, a WR that quit after seeing the festering fail party CGA was putting on and played for Alabama and is now in the NFL, a MLB that got sent packing and immediately played for Ole Miss, the healthiest OL we'd seen in a couple years with Seumalo coming back, and of course, the most talented running back since Steven Jackson to hit campus... But beyond all that, you know... totally empty up in here.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 29, 2017 8:09:02 GMT -8
BeaverNut23 - you're OK with four straight losing seasons? You realize that previous coach who smiled and hugged his players during the losses that so clearly tied you up in knots had four losing seasons in his twelve year stretch as head coach, right? You say this season could be 3-9 "at worst" and you're OK with that. You do realize that would be three straight seasons of four or fewer wins, something that hasn't happened at Oregon State since before many OSU students were even born? I don't understand why it's OK for this coach to fail so hard for so long. And if you say "the cupboard was bare and Riley ran this program into the ground" I will remind you that if 5-7 is your definition of "the ground" then Gary Andersen has been tunneling around in the dirt like a mole for going on three years now. I mean, for serious, all we had left after 2014 was a pocket passing QB that was run off and immediately started for Florida, a WR that quit after seeing the festering fail party CGA was putting on and played for Alabama and is now in the NFL, a MLB that got sent packing and immediately played for Ole Miss, the healthiest OL we'd seen in a couple years with Seumalo coming back, and of course, the most talented running back since Steven Jackson to hit campus... But beyond all that, you know... totally empty up in here. Add... most of our starters are from said bare cupboard.
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Post by hawksea on Aug 29, 2017 8:10:52 GMT -8
BeaverNut23 - you're OK with four straight losing seasons? You realize that previous coach who smiled and hugged his players during the losses that so clearly tied you up in knots had four losing seasons in his twelve year stretch as head coach, right? You say this season could be 3-9 "at worst" and you're OK with that. You do realize that would be three straight seasons of four or fewer wins, something that hasn't happened at Oregon State since before many OSU students were even born? I don't understand why it's OK for this coach to fail so hard for so long. And if you say "the cupboard was bare and Riley ran this program into the ground" I will remind you that if 5-7 is your definition of "the ground" then Gary Andersen has been tunneling around in the dirt like a mole for going on three years now. I mean, for serious, all we had left after 2014 was a pocket passing QB that was run off and immediately started for Florida, a WR that quit after seeing the festering fail party CGA was putting on and played for Alabama and is now in the NFL, a MLB that got sent packing and immediately played for Ole Miss, the healthiest OL we'd seen in a couple years with Seumalo coming back, and of course, the most talented running back since Steven Jackson to hit campus... But beyond all that, you know... totally empty up in here. Don't forget all of our safeties that were run off also. They might not have been the best, but they were not terrible.
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Post by mbabeav on Aug 29, 2017 12:39:53 GMT -8
Give me a break on the stupid "It was hot and our team wilted" excuse, please! I can grant altitude being an issue, but it was just as F'n hot in Corvallis last Saturday, would we have wilted there too? ??
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