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Post by beavaristotle on Jul 26, 2017 11:49:41 GMT -8
giving up football. probably best choice for him, highly regarded as a catching prospect.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 26, 2017 17:16:20 GMT -8
giving up football. probably best choice for him, highly regarded as a catching prospect. Who knows how "good", but he is just a "prospect". As the "Cod" had shown he had a loooong way to go with the stick, and other than two-year time/ arm strength has a lot to learn behind the plate. Defensively being a D1 starter as a true frosh is incredible. To do it for an elite team with not much of a catching background is amazing. But... he's no where near a high draft choice as a catcher... yet! No football obviously will help in that development. But, his biggest liability is at the plate. Another conversation... many teams like him as a pitcher and don't care what he does at the plate. Two more years a lot can develop. As for football... he's the only freaking guy in the last 5+years that can get us a touchback. So, if we don't have a great kickoff guy... selfishly... he should kick!! Lol |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 26, 2017 23:31:16 GMT -8
I wish we had him in football still, but I get it. Baseball can take him places, especially if he improves his batting. He's very likely got a future in that sport.
During the world series the announcers were gushing on his arm, I thought it was all right, but in my thinking the reason he was able to throw people out was the reason he somehow caught a foul tip in game 3 of the WS... the dude has reaction time speed in spades. He can get from a crouch to 6-8 feet away to make a play in the time a lot of guys are just realizing what they need to do. I don't think I've ever seen a catcher make the play he did, I'm thinking first or second inning of game 3 against LSU. He had several plays the games that I saw that I was pretty much amazed at how simple he made them look, I rarely watch catchers but he made me watch.
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Post by beaverama1 on Jul 27, 2017 7:24:43 GMT -8
Adley went into the season without the luxury of having competed in fall ball. Those reps (that he'll get now) would have helped a lot I'm guessing because he improved substantially as the year went on. While he only hit .234 on the season, it was .260 in conference play which is pretty good for a freshman. It's pretty easy to imagine Adley hitting .300 next year and being one of the best catchers in the conference, if not the nation.
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Post by ricke71 on Jul 27, 2017 7:40:52 GMT -8
I assume that BB only will add significant hours/days to his fall baseball experience (though I'm not sure how that arrangement would be, if he had continued as 2-sport).
If Casey and staff see him as a college hitter, I certainly trust their judgment. He batted mostly in the heart of the lineup so they apparently have confidence in him.
The adjustment from HS to College pitching is huge. Notable freshmen hitting struggles: Trever Morrison .225, Gretler .171.....then there are the Ellsbury's and Conforto's, who at 19 are ready to take on the world.
Adley struggled in the Cape cod League, versus very good to elite college pitchers....His 2017 OSU season however showed definite improvement as season progressed, as his PAC 12 plate performance was well above his first 4 weeks of non-conference games.
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Post by rilesinnewberg on Jul 27, 2017 15:27:08 GMT -8
I know the CC is almost an NCAA all-star league, the pitching should be better than the PAC, but how much are his struggles due to exhaustion? Dude caught 50+ game this year, which is double a single HS season. Hopefully rest and physical maturation will lead to a freshman to sophomore jump in hitting prowess,
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 27, 2017 18:21:13 GMT -8
He should have lots of rest, not having to face two a days this month. Tho with kickers, is it two minutes a day?  |
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Post by usmc1958 on Jul 27, 2017 21:24:57 GMT -8
I wish we had him in football still, but I get it. Baseball can take him places, especially if he improves his batting. He's very likely got a future in that sport. During the world series the announcers were gushing on his arm, I thought it was all right, but in my thinking the reason he was able to throw people out was the reason he somehow caught a foul tip in game 3 of the WS... the dude has reaction time speed in spades. He can get from a crouch to 6-8 feet away to make a play in the time a lot of guys are just realizing what they need to do. I don't think I've ever seen a catcher make the play he did, I'm thinking first or second inning of game 3 against LSU. He had several plays the games that I saw that I was pretty much amazed at how simple he made them look, I rarely watch catchers but he made me watch. Maybe money isn't a concern for him but,, there is a big difference between a full football ride and a 1/4-1/2 ride in baseball. I have no idea what the dinner table looks like for baseball, if there is one, but I'm very familiar with what the football guys get for chow. It's a bit better than the average country buffet. I think for most, football would be # 1 and baseball second. Very long odds for getting to the top level in either sport. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 28, 2017 0:36:32 GMT -8
I wish we had him in football still, but I get it. Baseball can take him places, especially if he improves his batting. He's very likely got a future in that sport. During the world series the announcers were gushing on his arm, I thought it was all right, but in my thinking the reason he was able to throw people out was the reason he somehow caught a foul tip in game 3 of the WS... the dude has reaction time speed in spades. He can get from a crouch to 6-8 feet away to make a play in the time a lot of guys are just realizing what they need to do. I don't think I've ever seen a catcher make the play he did, I'm thinking first or second inning of game 3 against LSU. He had several plays the games that I saw that I was pretty much amazed at how simple he made them look, I rarely watch catchers but he made me watch. Maybe money isn't a concern for him but,, there is a big difference between a full football ride and a 1/4-1/2 ride in baseball. I have no idea what the dinner table looks like for baseball, if there is one, but I'm very familiar with what the football guys get for chow. It's a bit better than the average country buffet. I think for most, football would be # 1 and baseball second. Very long odds for getting to the top level in either sport. I've asked this before, but does Rutschman lose his football scholarship? Because he once received a football scholarship, I do not believe that he is eligible for any baseball scholarship whatsoever. I also am uncertain that a Pac-12 team can pull a football scholarship once they give it out. Now, what may be changing the normal rules is Rutschman quitting the football team. If he got hurt or something they would have to honor the scholarship. |
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Post by hawksea on Jul 28, 2017 10:14:01 GMT -8
Maybe money isn't a concern for him but,, there is a big difference between a full football ride and a 1/4-1/2 ride in baseball. I have no idea what the dinner table looks like for baseball, if there is one, but I'm very familiar with what the football guys get for chow. It's a bit better than the average country buffet. I think for most, football would be # 1 and baseball second. Very long odds for getting to the top level in either sport. I've asked this before, but does Rutschman lose his football scholarship? Because he once received a football scholarship, I do not believe that he is eligible for any baseball scholarship whatsoever. I also am uncertain that a Pac-12 team can pull a football scholarship once they give it out. Now, what may be changing the normal rules is Rutschman quitting the football team. If he got hurt or something they would have to honor the scholarship. Because Adley is leaving the team by choice, he loses his football scholarship. The team would not be able to just pull it away from him, but if he decides to leave the team they are not obligated to give him the scholarship. I'm not sure if they are allowed to continue giving him one, but I know they are not forced to continue to giving him one when he quit the team. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 28, 2017 12:17:16 GMT -8
I've asked this before, but does Rutschman lose his football scholarship? Because he once received a football scholarship, I do not believe that he is eligible for any baseball scholarship whatsoever. I also am uncertain that a Pac-12 team can pull a football scholarship once they give it out. Now, what may be changing the normal rules is Rutschman quitting the football team. If he got hurt or something they would have to honor the scholarship. Because Adley is leaving the team by choice, he loses his football scholarship. The team would not be able to just pull it away from him, but if he decides to leave the team they are not obligated to give him the scholarship. I'm not sure if they are allowed to continue giving him one, but I know they are not forced to continue to giving him one when he quit the team. As I remember it, back when Riley was at the helm, he would occasionally give a scholarship to a good baseball player, and then just keep him on scholarship, whether he played football or not. But I am not sure, if I am remembering those circumstances with 100% accuracy............ |
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 28, 2017 13:15:12 GMT -8
I wish we had him in football still, but I get it. Baseball can take him places, especially if he improves his batting. He's very likely got a future in that sport. During the world series the announcers were gushing on his arm, I thought it was all right, but in my thinking the reason he was able to throw people out was the reason he somehow caught a foul tip in game 3 of the WS... the dude has reaction time speed in spades. He can get from a crouch to 6-8 feet away to make a play in the time a lot of guys are just realizing what they need to do. I don't think I've ever seen a catcher make the play he did, I'm thinking first or second inning of game 3 against LSU. He had several plays the games that I saw that I was pretty much amazed at how simple he made them look, I rarely watch catchers but he made me watch. Maybe money isn't a concern for him but,, there is a big difference between a full football ride and a 1/4-1/2 ride in baseball. I have no idea what the dinner table looks like for baseball, if there is one, but I'm very familiar with what the football guys get for chow. It's a bit better than the average country buffet. I think for most, football would be # 1 and baseball second. Very long odds for getting to the top level in either sport. If I had the skills (mind you a big if!), I would definitely pick baseball over football. Adley playing at OSU, as an in-state student, isn't about the schollie or the chow. I would say that even though he has a great toe, getting a kicking gig in football is much harder than a catching gig in baseball. And the risk of career ending injury is much lower - the football concussion issue is blowing up bigtime. Noting most recently the 25 year old player who took a hit, and realized one more like that and he might not have the capacity any more to finish his doctorate at MIT in squirrel world mathematics. I say that because a glance at the chalkboard on what he is working on makes my brain feel like squirrel food. So he quit pro football. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 28, 2017 13:41:07 GMT -8
Maybe money isn't a concern for him but,, there is a big difference between a full football ride and a 1/4-1/2 ride in baseball. I have no idea what the dinner table looks like for baseball, if there is one, but I'm very familiar with what the football guys get for chow. It's a bit better than the average country buffet. I think for most, football would be # 1 and baseball second. Very long odds for getting to the top level in either sport. If I had the skills (mind you a big if!), I would definitely pick baseball over football. Adley playing at OSU, as an in-state student, isn't about the schollie or the chow. I would say that even though he has a great toe, getting a kicking gig in football is much harder than a catching gig in baseball. And the risk of career ending injury is much lower - the football concussion issue is blowing up bigtime. Noting most recently the 25 year old player who took a hit, and realized one more like that and he might not have the capacity any more to finish his doctorate at MIT in squirrel world mathematics. I say that because a glance at the chalkboard on what he is working on makes my brain feel like squirrel food. So he quit pro football. . |
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Post by chinmusic on Jul 31, 2017 13:24:58 GMT -8
I may be mistaken but I don't believe Adley had a football scholarship - he had a "walk on" status in the football program.
Adley's academic standing at Sherwood would have made him eligible for a variety of academic scholarships and grants, in addition to his partial athletic scholly in baseball.
As an in-state student, he likely has a large portion of his education covered.
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Post by beavermd on Jul 31, 2017 13:44:32 GMT -8
I may be mistaken but I don't believe Adley had a football scholarship - he had a "walk on" status in the football program. Adley's academic standing at Sherwood would have made him eligible for a variety of academic scholarships and grants, in addition to his partial athletic scholly in baseball. As an in-state student, he likely has a large portion of his education covered. You are mistaken. He was on a football scholarship. If you are a two sport athlete, you have to take a scholarship in the sport that has more to offer. This prevents football teams from stashing kids in other sports in order to circumvent the 85 scholarship limit. |
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