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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 19, 2017 10:21:59 GMT -8
... will happen early on. Fehmel's nerves and how long be takes to get settled vs LSU being able to take advantage of the time it takes Fehmel to settle in.
Bryce (any guy dependent on off speed and location) must be able to "finish". When tight the forearm, wrist, fingers just don't release the ball fluidly. Similar to early in the Super if Bryce can get some early "luck"/"at 'em balls he'll settle the nerves and location and movement will sharpen.
Finesse guys need more feel/touch and a smooth relaxed release point is imperative. If LSU makes him pay early he'll tighten and we're into the BP very quickly. Not a terrible thing in and of itself as long as the damage is 2-3 runs.
Scoring early is also going to be very helpful as LSU is an overtly emotional team that rides waves. Hence, their unsteady play at times. Our biggest advantage today and in a playoff like this, our even keel. Fullerton thought the game was over after 5... they too ride emotional waves... get them down late they have a tough time mentally. LSU seems to have been the same of you read the game summaries from some of their inexplicable losses.
Level heads under stress doesn't guarantee success, but it does give you a better than even chance to overcome adversity. And in this case never give up and continually pressure the opponent.
LSU is far better than Fullerton... who in my opinion was a 2 and out team from the get go. If we pull off a W today we see FSU next. LSU won't recover and be so lucky in the elimination game.
Go BEAVS
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Post by justdamwin on Jun 19, 2017 10:35:51 GMT -8
Agreed on Fehmel
Walks and errors, that's my key combination for today.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 19, 2017 12:11:36 GMT -8
... will happen early on. Fehmel's nerves and how long be takes to get settled vs LSU being able to take advantage of the time it takes Fehmel to settle in. Bryce (any guy dependent on off speed and location) must be able to "finish". When tight the forearm, wrist, fingers just don't release the ball fluidly. Similar to early in the Super if Bryce can get some early "luck"/"at 'em balls he'll settle the nerves and location and movement will sharpen. Finesse guys need more feel/touch and a smooth relaxed release point is imperative. If LSU makes him pay early he'll tighten and we're into the BP very quickly. Not a terrible thing in and of itself as long as the damage is 2-3 runs. Scoring early is also going to be very helpful as LSU is an overtly emotional team that rides waves. Hence, their unsteady play at times. Our biggest advantage today and in a playoff like this, our even keel. Fullerton thought the game was over after 5... they too ride emotional waves... get them down late they have a tough time mentally. LSU seems to have been the same of you read the game summaries from some of their inexplicable losses. Level heads under stress doesn't guarantee success, but it does give you a better than even chance to overcome adversity. And in this case never give up and continually pressure the opponent. LSU is far better than Fullerton... who in my opinion was a 2 and out team from the get go. If we pull off a W today we see FSU next. LSU won't recover and be so lucky in the elimination game.Go BEAVS Good stuff on Fehmel. I think it all depends on which LSU team shows up. Eric Walker is a quality arm, but I think LSU is taking a chance with him in this situation. If Oregon State was going up against Alex Lange, I would say, yeah, LSU is better than Cal State Fullerton. The fact of it is that Oregon State took all that Cal State Fullerton could literally throw at Oregon State and the Beavers survived. LSU squandered both Lange and Poche on Florida State and a 1/3 of an inning from Hess. I agree that Fullerton is the two-and-out team in our group, but a 100% rested Cal State Fullerton is going to be better than any team that Oregon State faces, unless the Beavers have to come out of the losers' bracket. I agree that, if Oregon State wins, Florida State is the probable opponent on Friday. It is never good to lose, but it is a much easier proposition to come out of the losers' bracket, if the first game is a loss. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 19, 2017 12:26:16 GMT -8
... will happen early on. Fehmel's nerves and how long be takes to get settled vs LSU being able to take advantage of the time it takes Fehmel to settle in. Bryce (any guy dependent on off speed and location) must be able to "finish". When tight the forearm, wrist, fingers just don't release the ball fluidly. Similar to early in the Super if Bryce can get some early "luck"/"at 'em balls he'll settle the nerves and location and movement will sharpen. Finesse guys need more feel/touch and a smooth relaxed release point is imperative. If LSU makes him pay early he'll tighten and we're into the BP very quickly. Not a terrible thing in and of itself as long as the damage is 2-3 runs. Scoring early is also going to be very helpful as LSU is an overtly emotional team that rides waves. Hence, their unsteady play at times. Our biggest advantage today and in a playoff like this, our even keel. Fullerton thought the game was over after 5... they too ride emotional waves... get them down late they have a tough time mentally. LSU seems to have been the same of you read the game summaries from some of their inexplicable losses. Level heads under stress doesn't guarantee success, but it does give you a better than even chance to overcome adversity. And in this case never give up and continually pressure the opponent. LSU is far better than Fullerton... who in my opinion was a 2 and out team from the get go. If we pull off a W today we see FSU next. LSU won't recover and be so lucky in the elimination game.Go BEAVS Good stuff on Fehmel. I think it all depends on which LSU team shows up. Eric Walker is a quality arm, but I think LSU is taking a chance with him in this situation. If Oregon State was going up against Alex Lange, I would say, yeah, LSU is better than Cal State Fullerton. The fact of it is that Oregon State took all that Cal State Fullerton could literally throw at Oregon State and the Beavers survived. LSU squandered both Lange and Poche on Florida State and a 1/3 of an inning from Hess. I agree that Fullerton is the two-and-out team in our group, but a 100% rested Cal State Fullerton is going to be better than any team that Oregon State faces, unless the Beavers have to come out of the losers' bracket. I agree that, if Oregon State wins, Florida State is the probable opponent on Friday. It is never good to lose, but it is a much easier proposition to come out of the losers' bracket, if the first game is a loss. Titans just took a late lead on FSU. 4-3 with 3 to go. Either way you slice it, regardless of who we face, I'd rather be 2 and done from right now than 3 and done... I'd rather not make Thompson pitch again until the finals!!! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 19, 2017 12:49:54 GMT -8
Good stuff on Fehmel. I think it all depends on which LSU team shows up. Eric Walker is a quality arm, but I think LSU is taking a chance with him in this situation. If Oregon State was going up against Alex Lange, I would say, yeah, LSU is better than Cal State Fullerton. The fact of it is that Oregon State took all that Cal State Fullerton could literally throw at Oregon State and the Beavers survived. LSU squandered both Lange and Poche on Florida State and a 1/3 of an inning from Hess. I agree that Fullerton is the two-and-out team in our group, but a 100% rested Cal State Fullerton is going to be better than any team that Oregon State faces, unless the Beavers have to come out of the losers' bracket. I agree that, if Oregon State wins, Florida State is the probable opponent on Friday. It is never good to lose, but it is a much easier proposition to come out of the losers' bracket, if the first game is a loss. Titans just took a late lead on FSU. 4-3 with 3 to go. Either way you slice it, regardless of who we face, I'd rather be 2 and done from right now than 3 and done... I'd rather not make Thompson pitch again until the finals!!! Absent something weird: If Oregon State wins, I think you see Thompson on Friday. If Oregon State loses, I think you see Ras in the losers' bracket, Thompson in Game 1 of the finals, and Britton/Fehmel in Game 2. Hopefully, the Championship series is Fehmel/Ras and then the other with Thompson waiting in Game 3, if it gets that far. If Oregon State is playing on Saturday, though, I think Jordan Britton gets a start in there somewhere. |
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Post by jimbeav on Jun 19, 2017 13:58:50 GMT -8
Dammit baseba11, I'm waiting for you to inform us all that LSU is by far the best team we've faced all year.
Whenever you do that, we win.
GO BEAVS!
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 19, 2017 14:29:49 GMT -8
Dammit baseba11, I'm waiting for you to inform us all that LSU is by far the best team we've faced all year. Whenever you do that, we win. GO BEAVS! I sort of implied it... thought Fullerton played more as a team than Vandy, hence better/ best team so far. And, I thought I mentioned LSU better than Fullerton. But... if not... LSU is by FAR the best team we're going to face... IMHO... in the CWS. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jun 19, 2017 18:17:15 GMT -8
Well, we'll be in the driver's seat on Friday at 1400. I'm thinking Britton to start, or Tweedt.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2017 0:33:37 GMT -8
Well, we'll be in the driver's seat on Friday at 1400. I'm thinking Britton to start, or Tweedt. It really depends on who Oregon State goes up against. The pitcher that throws the Friday game can throw on Wednesday, if necessary. The last thing that the Beavers want is to have to play on Saturday. The Beavers need to keep their foot on the throat of the bracket and throw Ras or Thompson. If Oregon State wins Friday, the Beavers can throw Fehmel, Ras, and Thompson (not necessarily in that order) in the Championship Series. Hopefully, we save Britton/Tweedt for an emergency situation, just in case. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 20, 2017 7:51:29 GMT -8
Well, we'll be in the driver's seat on Friday at 1400. I'm thinking Britton to start, or Tweedt. It really depends on who Oregon State goes up against. The pitcher that throws the Friday game can throw on Wednesday, if necessary. The last thing that the Beavers want is to have to play on Saturday. The Beavers need to keep their foot on the throat of the bracket and throw Ras or Thompson. If Oregon State wins Friday, the Beavers can throw Fehmel, Ras, and Thompson (not necessarily in that order) in the Championship Series. Hopefully, we save Britton/Tweedt for an emergency situation, just in case. You saw... it can never be Tweedt... subs rocked him hard. His stuff is not "special"... FB has zero tilt or drift... CB is very readable and not a sharp break... his appearance was 13-1 your chance to enter CWS. Razz is the emergency starter and he's still going to be limited. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 8:01:35 GMT -8
It really depends on who Oregon State goes up against. The pitcher that throws the Friday game can throw on Wednesday, if necessary. The last thing that the Beavers want is to have to play on Saturday. The Beavers need to keep their foot on the throat of the bracket and throw Ras or Thompson. If Oregon State wins Friday, the Beavers can throw Fehmel, Ras, and Thompson (not necessarily in that order) in the Championship Series. Hopefully, we save Britton/Tweedt for an emergency situation, just in case. You saw... it can never be Tweedt... subs rocked him hard. His stuff is not "special"... FB has zero tilt or drift... CB is very readable and not a sharp break... his appearance was 13-1 your chance to enter CWS. Razz is the emergency starter and he's still going to be limited. It's balls out to win Friday. Keep winning and you are well rested for your championship series. Start the best option. In my opinion that's Eisert. Then middle relief with Ras. Then close with Max if neccesary. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2017 11:43:43 GMT -8
It really depends on who Oregon State goes up against. The pitcher that throws the Friday game can throw on Wednesday, if necessary. The last thing that the Beavers want is to have to play on Saturday. The Beavers need to keep their foot on the throat of the bracket and throw Ras or Thompson. If Oregon State wins Friday, the Beavers can throw Fehmel, Ras, and Thompson (not necessarily in that order) in the Championship Series. Hopefully, we save Britton/Tweedt for an emergency situation, just in case. You saw... it can never be Tweedt... subs rocked him hard. His stuff is not "special"... FB has zero tilt or drift... CB is very readable and not a sharp break... his appearance was 13-1 your chance to enter CWS. Razz is the emergency starter and he's still going to be limited. Oregon State needed Fehmel to come through, and he delivered. So, who do you start Friday? Thompson? I would like Yeskie to work with Thompson to make sure that Thompson is ready for his next start. Hopefully, that is Friday. If not, how many innings can Ras give us? Eight? Fewer? Roll the dice with Britton? Trot Fehmel back out on three days' rest? Start Mulholland with Ras to follow? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2017 11:53:34 GMT -8
You saw... it can never be Tweedt... subs rocked him hard. His stuff is not "special"... FB has zero tilt or drift... CB is very readable and not a sharp break... his appearance was 13-1 your chance to enter CWS. Razz is the emergency starter and he's still going to be limited. It's balls out to win Friday. Keep winning and you are well rested for your championship series. Start the best option. In my opinion that's Eisert. Then middle relief with Ras. Then close with Max if neccesary. Start the true freshman in Omaha in his first start ever. Eisert has been averaging 2 1/3 innings per outing. That sounds like the first ingredient in a recipe for disaster. I would much rather start Ras with Eisert as first man up, in case things start going sideways. |
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Post by justdamwin on Jun 20, 2017 12:43:03 GMT -8
It's balls out to win Friday. Keep winning and you are well rested for your championship series. Start the best option. In my opinion that's Eisert. Then middle relief with Ras. Then close with Max if neccesary. Start the true freshman in Omaha in his first start ever. Eisert has been averaging 2 1/3 innings per outing. That sounds like the first ingredient in a recipe for disaster. I would much rather start Ras with Eisert as first man up, in case things start going sideways. Raz-Eisert-Hickey- Max in that order. with Britton available also We are in good shape. Heck Mulholland can throw short relief if needed. |
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Post by joecool on Jun 20, 2017 12:56:44 GMT -8
Hickey? Really? He has 3-2/3 IP all year.
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