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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 30, 2017 9:55:17 GMT -8
Grant had one good outing where about half his innings where pitched. He is not a great reliever in terms of leadoff guys were hitting over .500 at one time. Might be higher now. You are correct doesn't change he may be valuable. Eisert also They are all valuable. But, will they perform under pressure? To me... again it's me... there is not one reliever that gives me the feeling of "lights out" once he takes the mound. We do not have that stopper/game over type. Unless Drew can work in to that role that is our biggest pitching weakness come close post season games. And a big part of that is the mentality and how you prep. Drew has not been I that position so it could be iffy unless they have that planned now. |
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Post by TonySoprano on Apr 30, 2017 16:08:11 GMT -8
time to take that horse out back and shoot it Damn brother...a little harsh |
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 30, 2017 17:35:24 GMT -8
You are correct doesn't change he may be valuable. Eisert also They are all valuable. But, will they perform under pressure? To me... again it's me... there is not one reliever that gives me the feeling of "lights out" once he takes the mound. We do not have that stopper/game over type. Unless Drew can work in to that role that is our biggest pitching weakness come close post season games. And a big part of that is the mentality and how you prep. Drew has not been I that position so it could be iffy unless they have that planned now. There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSave |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 30, 2017 17:59:56 GMT -8
They are all valuable. But, will they perform under pressure? To me... again it's me... there is not one reliever that gives me the feeling of "lights out" once he takes the mound. We do not have that stopper/game over type. Unless Drew can work in to that role that is our biggest pitching weakness come close post season games. And a big part of that is the mentality and how you prep. Drew has not been I that position so it could be iffy unless they have that planned now. There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSaveYou can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. |
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 30, 2017 18:04:39 GMT -8
There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSaveYou can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. Max did today. His back was tweaked he was "available" but not really. |
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Post by jdogge on Apr 30, 2017 18:05:16 GMT -8
There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSaveYou can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. I thought I saw that Max was banged up. That might account for his being MIA lately. |
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Post by codyd70 on Apr 30, 2017 18:36:06 GMT -8
There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSaveYou can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. Dude you are crazy. There isnt a single Pac 12 pitcher outside of OSU that has a better ERA or BA against than Jake |
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 30, 2017 18:53:55 GMT -8
You can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. I thought I saw that Max was banged up. That might account for his being MIA lately. He follows OSU enough. He knows. The truth doesn't lend itself to rational discussion. Can't argue for the sake of arguement. If Max is back from injury, not only do we have an exceptional closer, but 1 or 2 set-up guys. This staff is set up for the post-season |
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Post by OSUprof on Apr 30, 2017 19:55:12 GMT -8
There's not ONE reliever who gives you the feeling of "lights out"? If that's the case, I suspect there's not one reliever in all of college baseball who gives you that feeling. 7 earned runs in 50 innings between Engelbreckt and Mulholland is pretty much as good as it gets, and those results are better than any pair of relievers the Beavers have had in recent memory. So, yes. It's you. SaveSaveYou can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. Max has been injured per Kerry Eggers Tribune April 9th: "Freshman left-handers Jake Mulholland and Brandon Eisert were unavailable after throwing a combined 178 pitches in the first two games of the series, and southpaw closer Max Englebrekt couldn't go Sunday after experiencing back pain in the bullpen on Saturday." Max has not appeared because of this and another injury, not because he was not up to your standards. The only standards that matter here is Pat Casey's anyway. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 30, 2017 21:01:47 GMT -8
You can spout stats... neither is a lights out closer... especially lately for Jake. And if Max was elite he'd be seeing more innings with Jake's latest outings. But, you can feel however you want. Max has been injured per Kerry Eggers Tribune April 9th: "Freshman left-handers Jake Mulholland and Brandon Eisert were unavailable after throwing a combined 178 pitches in the first two games of the series, and southpaw closer Max Englebrekt couldn't go Sunday after experiencing back pain in the bullpen on Saturday." Max has not appeared because of this and another injury, not because he was not up to your standards. The only standards that matter here is Pat Casey's anyway. GBPH... As usual your arrogance precludes the facts. I said Max was not a lights out closer. I said if he was he'd be getting more opportunities. I gave no mention of "my standards" nor any other reason was cited. I thought it pretty common knowledge Max has had a back issue most of the season. So, even though it was of injury, or performance, or both he did/has not obviously met PC's standards, hence the limited chances... which leads to a relatively elementary conclusion that he indeed is NOT a lights out closer at this time. Which most folks who post here could figure out... EXCEPT you I guess?! Maybe stick your "insider" knowledge on budgets and such. |
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 30, 2017 21:35:35 GMT -8
Max has been injured per Kerry Eggers Tribune April 9th: "Freshman left-handers Jake Mulholland and Brandon Eisert were unavailable after throwing a combined 178 pitches in the first two games of the series, and southpaw closer Max Englebrekt couldn't go Sunday after experiencing back pain in the bullpen on Saturday." Max has not appeared because of this and another injury, not because he was not up to your standards. The only standards that matter here is Pat Casey's anyway. GBPH... As usual your arrogance precludes the facts. I said Max was not a lights out closer. I said if he was he'd be getting more opportunities. I gave no mention of "my standards" nor any other reason was cited. I thought it pretty common knowledge Max has had a back issue most of the season. So, even though it was of injury, or performance, or both he did/has not obviously met PC's standards, hence the limited chances... which leads to a relatively elementary conclusion that he indeed is NOT a lights out closer at this time. Which most folks who post here could figure out... EXCEPT you I guess?! Maybe stick your "insider" knowledge on budgets and such. If you believe that Mulholland should be getting "more opportunities" than the 38 innings he's already logged this year - but, you know, that's just "spouting stats". Whatever, dude. You admitted that "To me... again it's me... there is not one reliever that gives me the feeling of "lights out"" and I was just pointing out that, yes, it is really JUST YOU, because all 300 other coaches in the NCAA would LOVE to have the same relief pitcher problem that Pat Casey has. SaveSave |
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Post by OSUprof on Apr 30, 2017 21:46:53 GMT -8
Max has been injured per Kerry Eggers Tribune April 9th: "Freshman left-handers Jake Mulholland and Brandon Eisert were unavailable after throwing a combined 178 pitches in the first two games of the series, and southpaw closer Max Englebrekt couldn't go Sunday after experiencing back pain in the bullpen on Saturday." Max has not appeared because of this and another injury, not because he was not up to your standards. The only standards that matter here is Pat Casey's anyway. GBPH... As usual your arrogance precludes the facts. I said Max was not a lights out closer. I said if he was he'd be getting more opportunities. I gave no mention of "my standards" nor any other reason was cited. I thought it pretty common knowledge Max has had a back issue most of the season. So, even though it was of injury, or performance, or both he did/has not obviously met PC's standards, hence the limited chances... which leads to a relatively elementary conclusion that he indeed is NOT a lights out closer at this time. Which most folks who post here could figure out... EXCEPT you I guess?! Maybe stick your "insider" knowledge on budgets and such. I guess I'm not the only one as several others responded to your post in a similar manner. You're always right. I wonder if The Glove knows that this site has become "Baseba1111"s House"? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 30, 2017 21:53:06 GMT -8
GBPH... As usual your arrogance precludes the facts. I said Max was not a lights out closer. I said if he was he'd be getting more opportunities. I gave no mention of "my standards" nor any other reason was cited. I thought it pretty common knowledge Max has had a back issue most of the season. So, even though it was of injury, or performance, or both he did/has not obviously met PC's standards, hence the limited chances... which leads to a relatively elementary conclusion that he indeed is NOT a lights out closer at this time. Which most folks who post here could figure out... EXCEPT you I guess?! Maybe stick your "insider" knowledge on budgets and such. If you believe that Mulholland should be getting "more opportunities" than the 38 innings he's already logged this year - but, you know, that's just "spouting stats". Whatever, dude. You admitted that "To me... again it's me... there is not one reliever that gives me the feeling of "lights out"" and I was just pointing out that, yes, it is really JUST YOU, because all 300 other coaches in the NCAA would LOVE to have the same relief pitcher problem that Pat Casey has. SaveSaveI think you got overly excited. The entire post you quoted was about Max. To top it off where did I say OSU did not have a good situation? Neither guy is a lights out closer. Jake has done far better than anyone expected. His stats are great. But, as you may have seen in the last three series he is very "hittable"... and AGAIN... to me neither guy gives me the confidence as others we've had with worse "stats". |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 30, 2017 21:58:03 GMT -8
GBPH... As usual your arrogance precludes the facts. I said Max was not a lights out closer. I said if he was he'd be getting more opportunities. I gave no mention of "my standards" nor any other reason was cited. I thought it pretty common knowledge Max has had a back issue most of the season. So, even though it was of injury, or performance, or both he did/has not obviously met PC's standards, hence the limited chances... which leads to a relatively elementary conclusion that he indeed is NOT a lights out closer at this time. Which most folks who post here could figure out... EXCEPT you I guess?! Maybe stick your "insider" knowledge on budgets and such. I guess I'm not the only one as several others responded to your post in a similar manner. You're always right. I wonder if The Glove knows that this site has become "Baseba1111"s House"? Actually you again twist actual facts. Responded? Yep. Like you? Not close. As my first post stated... "to me". Didn't say I was right or ask to be agreed with. Dude... you're the ONLY one who prances in here occasionally and thinks he is the absolute bottom line. You act like this site is beneath you and owes you some reverence. You tried that act at work. |
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 30, 2017 22:28:42 GMT -8
So here are this year's pitching stats:
Player era w-l app gs cg sho sv ip h r er bb so 2b 3b hr b/avg wp hp bk sfa sha
25 Rasmussen, Drew 0 . 0 0 0-0 1 0 0 0/0 1 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 . 0 0 0 0000 0
34 Engelbrekt, Max 0 . 7 5 2-0 12 0 0 0/4 5 12.0 5 1 1 2 12 1 0 1 . 1 2 2 1 0 1 0 1
15 Heimlich, Luke 0 . 7 8 6-1 11 11 1 0/4 0 80.1 42 9 7 18 87 6 0 0 . 1 5 3 2401 9
44 Thompson, Jake 1 . 0 7 9-0 12 11 0 0/4 0 76.0 41 10 9 24 78 8 2 2 . 1 5 9 2 3 1 0 3
32 Verburg, Mitchell 1 . 1 2 1-0 12 0 0 0/1 1 8.0 6 1 1 4 7 1 0 0 . 2 0 7 1001 1
38 Mulholland, Jake 1 . 4 2 5-1 19 0 0 0/4 5 38.0 24 6 6 8 35 2 2 2 . 1 8 0 1 0 0 0 3
31 Britton, Jordan 2 . 0 8 0-0 4 0 0 0/0 0 4.1 4 1 1 3 3 1 0 0 . 2 3 5 0000 0
22 Gambrell, Grant 2 . 5 1 1-0 10 0 0 0/0 1 14.1 10 5 4 10 8 2 0 1 . 2 0 8 0 6 0 2 1
23 Hickey, Mitch 3 . 0 0 0-0 6 0 0 0/2 1 3.0 4 3 1 2 3 3 0 0 . 2 8 6 0000 0
12 Tweedt, Sam 3 . 0 3 3-0 9 6 0 0/0 0 29.2 29 11 10 5 23 4 0 4 . 2 5 4 0 2 0 1 2
37 Eisert, Brandon 3 . 0 9 3-0 13 0 0 0/0 1 23.1 19 10 8 12 29 6 0 1 . 2 1 6 5200 1
26 Fehmel, Bryce 3 . 9 2 4-2 10 10 0 0/1 0 57.1 52 28 25 16 33 12 1 3 . 2 4 6 4 4 0 5 4
40 Paul, Tommy 4 . 5 0 0-0 2 0 0 0/0 0 2.0 2 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 . 3 3 3 0200 1
Totals 1 . 9 1 34-4 38 38 1 8/8 15 349.0 238 86 74 105 320 46 5 14 . 1 9 3 16 23 2 10 26
Opponents 4 . 7 9 4-34 38 38 1 0/0 1 331.0 368 204 176 161 235 69 13 14 . 2 8 7 36 19 7 19 34
Any dolt can see that if Max had 12 apperances with a .75 ERA in the closers role that if he can come back healthy, again any reasonable dolt would say HE is our best option for a closer, not Drew. Jake and Brandon have done admirable jobs of filling in for this team's true closer...Max. I'll take hoping the guy that has done it this year can do it again(coming back from whatever ails him), over the guy coming back from TJ. Getting Drew back would be adding to an embarassment of riches that this staff has this year.
Seems to me that there are multiple arms on this staff that have taken the mound in pressure situations this season, and for the most part have come through positively, hence our record to date.
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