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Mar 28, 2017 23:44:51 GMT -8
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Post by gnawitall on Mar 28, 2017 23:44:51 GMT -8
Do the Nick Madrigal Darwin Barney comparisons begin?
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Post by BeaverG20 on Mar 29, 2017 3:36:58 GMT -8
After madrigal wins two NC's
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Post by rainmanrich on Mar 29, 2017 5:25:30 GMT -8
After madrigal wins two NC's mic drop..... |
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Mar 29, 2017 6:36:08 GMT -8
Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 29, 2017 6:36:08 GMT -8
After madrigal wins two NC's So Chris Kunda >>>>> Nick Madrigal?  |
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Mar 29, 2017 8:02:48 GMT -8
Post by eugenedave on Mar 29, 2017 8:02:48 GMT -8
After Madrigal wins the Golden Glove. And don't think he won't some day. He IS that good.
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Mar 29, 2017 8:07:51 GMT -8
After madrigal wins two NC's So Chris Kunda >>>>> Nick Madrigal? If you mean 2-time Pac10 champion, 2-time CWS player, 2006 Pac10 Defensive POY, and 2006 CWS Champion Chris Kunda, then your implied sarcasm may be a bit misplaced. Right now, Chris Kunda's accomplishments far exceed those of young Mr. Madrigal, and we can all only hope Nick is able to match or exceed them over this season and next. Nick is a higher-level prospect than Kunda ever was, and has a much larger offensive role on the team, but Chris' role as a 4-year player and senior leader in 2006 was crucial for a championship team. I still think that Nick would tell you he is striving to get to the same place as Kunda by his final season at OSU. |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 29, 2017 8:20:40 GMT -8
We'll see how Madrigal ends up. CWS champion is a an overall great accomplishment. But maybe not an overall career comparison marker. Perhaps we should wait until players MLB careers are over to rank them?
I don't remember Kunda's BA or other offensive stats. But what I remember is he was light hitting. Madrigal has more of a complete game (right now) than Kunda i would argue
i wasn't trying for sarcasm and i'm sorry if i offended you. Every player on the 06-07 CWS championship team deserves what they got. Doesn't mean that we can't compare and contrast. Other than it's too early to compare Madrigal to anyone yet
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Post by ochobeavo on Mar 29, 2017 9:31:09 GMT -8
He actually reminds me of Pedroia..
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Mar 29, 2017 9:51:18 GMT -8
Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2017 9:51:18 GMT -8
He actually reminds me of Pedroia.. That's been a lot of the commentary of scouts and the tv broadcast guys - the comparisons to Dustin. But I think he is a bit better hitter, especially in the clutch. I don't remember Pedroia hitting .400 while in college, and even though you liked his odds when he came to the plate in crunch time, Madrigal is Mr. Clutch personified. Oh, and what is the over/under on texts between him and his brother after the game? Getting the chance to face your (twin) sibling in game action and taking him for a base hit the only time you will ever face him (not to say that St. Mary's won't get into the 64 again this season and end up facing us), that was a really special experience to watch. |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 29, 2017 9:56:30 GMT -8
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Mar 29, 2017 10:24:03 GMT -8
Post by jefframp on Mar 29, 2017 10:24:03 GMT -8
So how come he looks 4 inches shorter in this picture?
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Post by orangeblood on Mar 29, 2017 10:34:37 GMT -8
Because there are identical twins and there are fraternal twins
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 29, 2017 11:04:24 GMT -8
He actually reminds me of Pedroia.. That's been a lot of the commentary of scouts and the tv broadcast guys - the comparisons to Dustin. But I think he is a bit better hitter, especially in the clutch. I don't remember Pedroia hitting .400 while in college, and even though you liked his odds when he came to the plate in crunch time, Madrigal is Mr. Clutch personified. Oh, and what is the over/under on texts between him and his brother after the game? Getting the chance to face your (twin) sibling in game action and taking him for a base hit the only time you will ever face him (not to say that St. Mary's won't get into the 64 again this season and end up facing us), that was a really special experience to watch. Wow... really... a major league star in one of the toughest cities to play in for YEARS... and a college soph is a better clutch hitter???! Comparing him to DBar is bad enough... he's 75 or so games into his career. Nothing is worse than the far too early comparisons to established greats... the 'baby Jordans... Shacks... etc"... Nick is having a great run. Right now he is a very good college player who more than likely will level out in the .360-.380 range. He's a "prospect" that's all right now. Petey at ASU was a stud... even by ASU standards... "In three years at ASU, Pedroia never hit below .347 and had a career average of .384, starting all 185 games. To help ASU recruit better pitchers, Pedroia also relinquished the last two years of his athletic scholarship" He is a MLB regular... and AL MVP... 4 time All Star... 4 time Gold Glove, ROY, with 130+ HRs and 130+ SBs, already 1600+ hits, and a .301 career average. |
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Post by orangeblood on Mar 29, 2017 11:38:09 GMT -8
A little perspective - Darwin Barney is and will always be one of our all-time greats .... but does time dim our memory and make him more of a superhero than he was? Yes, we won two national championships with his (and others) leadership, and unless another Beaver team wins it all, you cannot consider it one of the greatest.
Darwin stats (BA/HR/RBI/Errors)
2005 - .301/0/18/22
2006 - .330/0/36/24
2007 - .302/5/56/17
Nick stats
2016 - .333/1/29/5
2017 - .407/3/14/3
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Mar 29, 2017 12:00:25 GMT -8
Post by ochobeavo on Mar 29, 2017 12:00:25 GMT -8
That's been a lot of the commentary of scouts and the tv broadcast guys - the comparisons to Dustin. But I think he is a bit better hitter, especially in the clutch. I don't remember Pedroia hitting .400 while in college, and even though you liked his odds when he came to the plate in crunch time, Madrigal is Mr. Clutch personified. Oh, and what is the over/under on texts between him and his brother after the game? Getting the chance to face your (twin) sibling in game action and taking him for a base hit the only time you will ever face him (not to say that St. Mary's won't get into the 64 again this season and end up facing us), that was a really special experience to watch. Wow... really... a major league star in one of the toughest cities to play in for YEARS... and a college soph is a better clutch hitter???! Comparing him to DBar is bad enough... he's 75 or so games into his career. Nothing is worse than the far too early comparisons to established greats... the 'baby Jordans... Shacks... etc"... Nick is having a great run. Right now he is a very good college player who more than likely will level out in the .360-.380 range. He's a "prospect" that's all right now. Petey at ASU was a stud... even by ASU standards... "In three years at ASU, Pedroia never hit below .347 and had a career average of .384, starting all 185 games. To help ASU recruit better pitchers, Pedroia also relinquished the last two years of his athletic scholarship" He is a MLB regular... and AL MVP... 4 time All Star... 4 time Gold Glove, ROY, with 130+ HRs and 130+ SBs, already 1600+ hits, and a .301 career average. For the record, I'm just going with "reminds me of" vs better than. In other words, "has some Pedroia" to his game... As far as "too early comparisons go" I thought it was the great1111 who once mentioned that on an internet message board we could all have our opinions and that's okay?  |
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