Snafu
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Post by Snafu on Mar 26, 2017 8:39:40 GMT -8
I think it was the 5th or 6th inning as Beavs were coming off the field and Coach Y was livid. Even held back by one of the coaches...
Heard that maybe UA was stealing signs, but don't know if that was it.
Also, heard rumor that UA is using an illegal bat.
Anyway, break out the brooms today!!!
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 26, 2017 9:36:17 GMT -8
Parker said there was a bat checked early in the game, but it was ruled legal. Parker also noted the umps visiting both dugouts and talking to both head coaches. Lots of games going on inside the game, apparently. Interesting and the info on the Y item will eventually be known.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 26, 2017 9:48:33 GMT -8
My guess... Zona was ahead and mouthing off. I believe from what I saw that was also what the visit to the dugouts were about.
It seemed a bit chippy from the moment Zona took a lead in game 1. Bathroom conversation centered on someone supposedly hearing Zona players chided our dugout about not being in the tourney last June. And, another was that one of their asst coaches was quite verbal and abusive. But??
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beaver94
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 26, 2017 10:02:57 GMT -8
Yeskie and the Arizona coach were yelling back and forth. I don't know what was finally said but it was enough for Yeskie to let go with a couple FU's while climbing over the fence headed to the Arizona dugout.
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 26, 2017 10:34:27 GMT -8
Best way to handle it is to send them home 0-3. Good start to getting that done.
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Post by hometownbeaver on Mar 26, 2017 10:38:07 GMT -8
Best way to handle it is to send them home 0-3. Good start to getting that done. +1 |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 26, 2017 12:03:37 GMT -8
My guess... Zona was ahead and mouthing off. I believe from what I saw that was also what the visit to the dugouts were about. It seemed a bit chippy from the moment Zona took a lead in game 1. Bathroom conversation centered on someone supposedly hearing Zona players chided our dugout about not being in the tourney last June. And, another was that one of their asst coaches was quite verbal and abusive. But?? TV showed the plate ump talking pretty heatedly with the Az dugout. Did not show the visit to the OS dugout. He was aiming his talk to a coach on the bench in a gray sweatshirt/hoodie Possibly this guy: www.arizonawildcats.com/coaches.aspx?rc=650&path=baseball |
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 26, 2017 13:01:08 GMT -8
The argument was between Yeskie and the coach for Arizona that wears #11. The ump talked to the beaver dugout first but it didn't appear heated.
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Post by vhalum92 on Mar 27, 2017 14:52:54 GMT -8
I'd put my money on Coach Y.... I do remember the bat being inspected.... hard to know why (could be lots of reasons). The ump gave it the ok and they kept swinging it. I thought Arizona was "chirpy", but they were beating the #1 team in the nation. Can't really blame them. I'd also say that seems to be there team chemistry... loose and loud. I'd say we are more reserved, not as loud as we are hitting. It isn't fun to listen to the other team whoop it up as they are winning on the scoreboard, only one thing to do... beat them. I sure noted as they were getting on the bus Sunday, that they were finally stoic  Go BEAVS! |
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 27, 2017 15:10:12 GMT -8
I think it was the 5th or 6th inning as Beavs were coming off the field and Coach Y was livid. Even held back by one of the coaches... Heard that maybe UA was stealing signs, but don't know if that was it. Also, heard rumor that UA is using an illegal bat. Anyway, break out the brooms today!!! you're right on the sign stealing. u of A coach #11 is famous on the west coast as one of the best sign stealers in the country. the beef coach Y had with him way the little league way he was relaying them to the hitters. coach Y thought he was trying to show up the beavers, bush league stuff like players first name for a fastball and last name for off speed pitches. coach Y had relayed that message to #11 during the postgame handshake on Saturday night and the guy kinda blew him off. I noticed most of the game sunday if he was relaying signs he was doing it in a much more subtle manner. ( hands in pocket, fastball out of pocket breaking ball. standing on the coaching box line, fastball off the line breaking ball. |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 27, 2017 20:03:15 GMT -8
Who calls the pitches? Is it Yeskie or Casey? Where was the Arizona coach stealing them at - from the coach or Rutschman? Instead of being mad at the other coach maybe our coaches could be better about signs or have Rutschman call some pitches.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 28, 2017 8:12:10 GMT -8
Yeskie calls pitches. They use a number system. www.ownthezonesports.com/They may not use this company but this is an example This is a difficult system to decode. And the pitcher could always go up & in after giving a sign for a breaking ball. That tends to make the hitters distrust the signs. The coach can reverse engineer the sign system. Instead of watching Yeskie and calling the pitch to the hitter. You could watch the result (pitch) and see what matches up with the sign. Yeskie could foil that by changing the card more often. Instead of using the same card all game you could switch between innings. Which is a hassle and could create more problems. It would be best to just go up & in |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 28, 2017 9:46:44 GMT -8
I watched the video demo of the playcards, and I still didn't quite understand how it worked. I liked baseball when I was in high school and touching the belt meant bunt, touching the hat meant hit and run, and a swipe down the arm meant steal. So much simpler back in those days.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 28, 2017 10:03:58 GMT -8
I watched the video demo of the playcards, and I still didn't quite understand how it worked. I liked baseball when I was in high school and touching the belt meant bunt, touching the hat meant hit and run, and a swipe down the arm meant steal. So much simpler back in those days. We had that, but our coach threw in "indicators" - really simple, would tell us each inning what he was going to do, but I spent a lot of time as first base coach, and 90% of the time our guy would get to first base, and then ask me what the indicator was......... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 28, 2017 10:13:18 GMT -8
There are many great options... I even changed both offensive and defensive/pitches by the # if outs... 0 outs last... 1 out 2nd... 2 outs 1st... etc
Then we also had a "dummy" sequence... some indicator that meant nothing was on no matter what.
I loved stealing signs, especially in football. A lot of head coaches gave the offensive play calls... no sign boards or wrist cards back in the day... and most were not "baseball savvy". One guy in particular in Central Oregon hated me. We would call out pass / run... side, if pass if it was off a belly fake and key route...
It was quite amusing... lol
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