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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 28, 2017 11:06:32 GMT -8
I watched the video demo of the playcards, and I still didn't quite understand how it worked. I liked baseball when I was in high school and touching the belt meant bunt, touching the hat meant hit and run, and a swipe down the arm meant steal. So much simpler back in those days. wtf...weren't You listening in pregame?  legs is steal! See it, learn it, live it   |
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 28, 2017 11:35:49 GMT -8
Yeskie calls pitches. They use a number system. www.ownthezonesports.com/They may not use this company but this is an example This is a difficult system to decode. And the pitcher could always go up & in after giving a sign for a breaking ball. That tends to make the hitters distrust the signs. The coach can reverse engineer the sign system. Instead of watching Yeskie and calling the pitch to the hitter. You could watch the result (pitch) and see what matches up with the sign. Yeskie could foil that by changing the card more often. Instead of using the same card all game you could switch between innings. Which is a hassle and could create more problems. It would be best to just go up & in as sophisticated at the card and number system I would assume that signs are being stolen from our catchers. I noticed that Adley uses a system of touches to the body rather than the old fashion hand signals . normally that's only used if you have a pitcher that has trouble seeing the fingers. the body touches are much easier to steal than hand signs. Logan used to paint his fingers white to help the pitchers see them better. there are many ways to get around a sign stealer. coach Y could sign directly to pitcher and catcher at the same time. have 3 guys in the dugout signaling in at the same time like football does. coach Y could be a dummy and the signs could be called by someone else in the dugout, or my personal favorite if you think someone has your signs. tell the pitcher and catcher in between inning that first pitch next inning you are going to signal a changeup but the pitch is a fastball at the batters earhole. its amazing how many hitters are not interested in having the signs after that |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 28, 2017 12:05:19 GMT -8
Oh god "indicators." I was the worst at picking up signs. It was all like a giant game of silent "simon says." My strategy was always to swing at the first pitch to ensure the fewest number of times I could potentially miss a sign.
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 28, 2017 12:50:53 GMT -8
I watched the video demo of the playcards, and I still didn't quite understand how it worked. I liked baseball when I was in high school and touching the belt meant bunt, touching the hat meant hit and run, and a swipe down the arm meant steal. So much simpler back in those days. We had that, but our coach threw in "indicators" - really simple, would tell us each inning what he was going to do, but I spent a lot of time as first base coach, and 90% of the time our guy would get to first base, and then ask me what the indicator was......... 1- Indicator 2- Actual sign 3- "on" signal At least that's how WE did it back in the day. Needed all 3 in a row - if the indicator and sign were not followed by the "on" signal, it was a dummy call. Yes, we had a few missed signals, but for the vast majority, nobody missed it. We also had a few special signs that needed no indicator or "on" signal - my favorite was the "verbal" signal for a squeeze bunt: "HIT THE BALL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!" |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 28, 2017 14:10:56 GMT -8
as sophisticated at the card and number system I would assume that signs are being stolen from our catchers. I noticed that Adley uses a system of touches to the body rather than the old fashion hand signals . normally that's only used if you have a pitcher that has trouble seeing the fingers. the body touches are much easier to steal than hand signs. Logan used to paint his fingers white to help the pitchers see them better. there are many ways to get around a sign stealer. coach Y could sign directly to pitcher and catcher at the same time. have 3 guys in the dugout signaling in at the same time like football does. coach Y could be a dummy and the signs could be called by someone else in the dugout, or my personal favorite if you think someone has your signs. tell the pitcher and catcher in between inning that first pitch next inning you are going to signal a changeup but the pitch is a fastball at the batters earhole. its amazing how many hitters are not interested in having the signs after that They call that the Nolan Ryan. Before that is was the Bob Gibson as many hitting signs as we have missed I'm wary of making anything more complicated on either side |
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Post by blueheron on Mar 29, 2017 12:56:24 GMT -8
If they're stealing our signs....WHO CARES??!!! It's part of the game. Change our signs. Steal theirs.
It appeared Yeskie and the Cal coach talked and made up after the game.
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Post by blueheron on Mar 29, 2017 13:48:27 GMT -8
If they're stealing our signs....WHO CARES??!!! It's part of the game. Change our signs. Steal theirs. It appeared Yeskie and the Cal coach talked and made up after the game. Cal? Ha. Where did that come from.... |
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Post by justdamwin on Mar 29, 2017 13:49:22 GMT -8
We had that, but our coach threw in "indicators" - really simple, would tell us each inning what he was going to do, but I spent a lot of time as first base coach, and 90% of the time our guy would get to first base, and then ask me what the indicator was......... 1- Indicator 2- Actual sign 3- "on" signal At least that's how WE did it back in the day. Needed all 3 in a row - if the indicator and sign were not followed by the "on" signal, it was a dummy call. Yes, we had a few missed signals, but for the vast majority, nobody missed it. We also had a few special signs that needed no indicator or "on" signal - my favorite was the "verbal" signal for a squeeze bunt: "HIT THE BALL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!" I've used a wipe off. 1- Indicator 2- Actual sign 3-Possible wipe off. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2017 15:16:54 GMT -8
1- Indicator 2- Actual sign 3- "on" signal At least that's how WE did it back in the day. Needed all 3 in a row - if the indicator and sign were not followed by the "on" signal, it was a dummy call. Yes, we had a few missed signals, but for the vast majority, nobody missed it. We also had a few special signs that needed no indicator or "on" signal - my favorite was the "verbal" signal for a squeeze bunt: "HIT THE BALL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!" I've used a wipe off. 1- Indicator 2- Actual sign 3-Possible wipe off. we had two refugees from Vietnam (yes that gives away my age), who wanted to play baseball. Our coach figured that first season that teaching them how to hit was asking a bit much, but he thought he could teach them to bunt. Would give everyone else the signals, but when they came to bat, all he would do is shout "bunt". I think they each got a base hit  that season. |
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that season.