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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 17:14:58 GMT -8
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Post by seastape on Mar 21, 2017 17:45:28 GMT -8
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 21, 2017 17:57:21 GMT -8
Robinson must have contacted him at some point before he left, because we all know our current coaches can't recruit unless it's family.😜
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Post by mountainbeaver on Mar 21, 2017 18:12:00 GMT -8
Good pick up. Class is starting to look pretty good.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 21, 2017 20:28:28 GMT -8
Robinson must have contacted him at some point before he left, because we all know our current coaches can't recruit unless it's family.😜 Ahhhh... he's only a commit at this point. A supposed 3/4* that's still out there despite numerous "better" offers. Dew and Stacy. Let's take a moment and see how this turns out. |
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 21, 2017 20:43:40 GMT -8
Robinson must have contacted him at some point before he left, because we all know our current coaches can't recruit unless it's family.😜 Ahhhh... he's only a commit at this point. A supposed 3/4* that's still out there despite numerous "better" offers. Dew and Stacy. Let's take a moment and see how this turns out. Obviously it's a wait and see, but this is also a different situation than Dew and Stacy. In my opinion they were an attempt to remedy a lack of upperclassmen on the team. It obviously didn't work out. Getting a good recruit to commit is a good sign. But thanks for always being the first guy out to make sure everyone knows that he still is just a commit and is only a supposed 3/4*. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 22, 2017 5:48:25 GMT -8
Welcome Alfred Hollins. Great get for WT and the Beavers. Adds some nice athleticism and flexibility to next year's team.
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Post by bbfan on Mar 22, 2017 8:34:10 GMT -8
Robinson must have contacted him at some point before he left, because we all know our current coaches can't recruit unless it's family.😜 Ahhhh... he's only a commit at this point. A supposed 3/4* that's still out there despite numerous "better" offers. Dew and Stacy. Let's take a moment and see how this turns out. Supposed 3/4*? What the heck does that mean. He is a 3/4 star. He will be signing as soon as the Spring period opens, next signee with be a JC power forward/center, and then Malcolm is on the clock to either return or use that scholarship for a veteran point guard, immediately eligible transfer, or JC. |
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Post by obf on Mar 22, 2017 8:56:14 GMT -8
Nice pick up, of course every recruit comes with the "Baseba1111 caveats" (Could be worse than advertised, might not actually sign, must be something wrong with him since he had to commit to us). But this is a guy who has offers from Oregon, FSU, and LSU. This is a legit WIN for coach tinkle and should assuage at least a LITTLE of the squirming, icky feelings that people have in regards to Wayne's recruiting chops. REGARDLESS of if Hollins goes on a flips somewhere else, it is a positive, good thing that Wayne and company can convince a high level kid to get on board with the beavs, even if it is just transient. Welcome aboard Alfred, you can do GREAT things here as a beaver! Hope to see you playing next year! Also, start saying nice things about us to your 5* teammate  |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 22, 2017 9:03:12 GMT -8
Ahhhh... he's only a commit at this point. A supposed 3/4* that's still out there despite numerous "better" offers. Dew and Stacy. Let's take a moment and see how this turns out. Supposed 3/4*? What the heck does that mean. He is a 3/4 star. He will be signing as soon as the Spring period opens, next signee with be a JC power forward/center, and then Malcolm is on the clock to either return or use that scholarship for a veteran point guard, immediately eligible transfer, or JC. Means exactly that... why is he still available if a 4*? "He's best when shooting a 3"... just what us needed another wing that shoots the three. And, the quality JC PF/C left out there that can make it thru the clearinghouse? Is that why this kid was unsigned? Like I said lots of questions... PJ, Dew, Stacy... And... yep, I don't fawn over kids who've yet to step on a court vs the "evidence" of recent recruiting. And... flail away. I was chided on the ftball board for down playing the HS AA game TV signing too. |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 22, 2017 9:49:02 GMT -8
Why is he still available? A better question is why do so many players sign so early? Right now 4 of Scout's top 10 BB recruits are still unsigned. Good players have lots of options, and smart ones take their time and weigh them carefully. In this particular case, my bet is that Hollins calculated that by playing on a national-caliber HS team alongside one of the country's most elite prospects (Ayton), his stock would only rise through his senior season. (I think he might have even grown an inch or two - some sites have him as 6'5", others at 6'6" or 6'7".) So he stayed patient and made sure that he found the right school for him. He sounds like a pretty smart kid without an overgrown ego.
Here's Scout's report:
"Hollins is a wing with pretty good size at 6-foot-5 and will be able to play both the two and three offensively at the next level. He's got a good stroke and is a capable shooter, who can knock down threes off the catch or pull-up and hit midrange jumpers. Hollins is a good athlete and uses his athleticism to finish above the rim in transition. He's an unselfish player who sees the court well and makes teammates better with his passing. Hollins rebounds well for the position and blocks shots on defense. He has the upside to be a very productive scorer at the next level.
Strengths: 3-Point Range, Aggressive Scorer, Athleticism. Areas to Improve: Length"
If he's really 6'6" or 6'7", then he sure sounds a lot like Tres.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 22, 2017 10:07:31 GMT -8
I don't want the staff to recruit "one and done" players; I am plenty satisfied with the thought of this young man joining our squad. And don't discount accurate outside shooting. If a couple of our perimeter players can hit from the outside consistently, that will pull all five defenders out of the key where they were most of this season. I expect it is going to be "amazing" how much better our 3-4-5's are going to be next season over this past one when the 1-2 people can force the defenders out to the 3 line.
The proof is in the performance and so I am going to let this past season go now, but I feel pretty positive about a rapid recovery in 2017-18.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 22, 2017 10:53:59 GMT -8
Why is he still available? A better question is why do so many players sign so early? Right now 4 of Scout's top 10 BB recruits are still unsigned. Good players have lots of options, and smart ones take their time and weigh them carefully. In this particular case, my bet is that Hollins calculated that by playing on a national-caliber HS team alongside one of the country's most elite prospects (Ayton), his stock would only rise through his senior season. (I think he might have even grown an inch or two - some sites have him as 6'5", others at 6'6" or 6'7".) So he stayed patient and made sure that he found the right school for him. He sounds like a pretty smart kid without an overgrown ego. Here's Scout's report: "Hollins is a wing with pretty good size at 6-foot-5 and will be able to play both the two and three offensively at the next level. He's got a good stroke and is a capable shooter, who can knock down threes off the catch or pull-up and hit midrange jumpers. Hollins is a good athlete and uses his athleticism to finish above the rim in transition. He's an unselfish player who sees the court well and makes teammates better with his passing. Hollins rebounds well for the position and blocks shots on defense. He has the upside to be a very productive scorer at the next level. Strengths: 3-Point Range, Aggressive Scorer, Athleticism. Areas to Improve: Length" If he's really 6'6" or 6'7", then he sure sounds a lot like Tres. LOL... was wondering how you improve on "length"  ? Was he graded down cuz he's too short or shorter wing span??? Seems to be a strange comment and not sure I've ever seen it listed in "improve" before. Listed at 6'5" on most sites... but he's is far more athletic that Tres. Tres can be deceptive but he plays close to the floor and draws more fouls with body contact than finishing athletically. Despite my reservations on the "why" he was still out and available, the is no doubt Hollins (and the name is a huge plus for me ans the "Train" was a personal fav) is a HUGE upgrade... of course if you have Dahlen, Sanders, Daine getting any PT any 3* is! As soon as we have a roster full of "recruits" and not 3-5 walkon types we'll be ready to take a huge step forward. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 22, 2017 11:40:07 GMT -8
I'm completely baffled by all the negativity here. What seems like a very good recruit commits to join the Beavers and people wonder why he was still available? There are plenty of reasons why he might not have committed until now. I for one welcome him with open arms and look forward to him being a part of the Beavers success next year and the three after that. If he ends up not signing, then good luck to him and I hope he made the right decision for himself.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 22, 2017 11:52:53 GMT -8
Why is he still available? A better question is why do so many players sign so early? Right now 4 of Scout's top 10 BB recruits are still unsigned. Good players have lots of options, and smart ones take their time and weigh them carefully. In this particular case, my bet is that Hollins calculated that by playing on a national-caliber HS team alongside one of the country's most elite prospects (Ayton), his stock would only rise through his senior season. (I think he might have even grown an inch or two - some sites have him as 6'5", others at 6'6" or 6'7".) So he stayed patient and made sure that he found the right school for him. He sounds like a pretty smart kid without an overgrown ego. Here's Scout's report: "Hollins is a wing with pretty good size at 6-foot-5 and will be able to play both the two and three offensively at the next level. He's got a good stroke and is a capable shooter, who can knock down threes off the catch or pull-up and hit midrange jumpers. Hollins is a good athlete and uses his athleticism to finish above the rim in transition. He's an unselfish player who sees the court well and makes teammates better with his passing. Hollins rebounds well for the position and blocks shots on defense. He has the upside to be a very productive scorer at the next level. Strengths: 3-Point Range, Aggressive Scorer, Athleticism. Areas to Improve: Length" If he's really 6'6" or 6'7", then he sure sounds a lot like Tres. LOL... was wondering how you improve on "length" ? Was he graded down cuz he's too short or shorter wing span??? Seems to be a strange comment and not sure I've ever seen it listed in "improve" before. Listed at 6'5" on most sites... but he's is far more athletic that Tres. Tres can be deceptive but he plays close to the floor and draws more fouls with body contact than finishing athletically. Despite my reservations on the "why" he was still out and available, the is no doubt Hollins (and the name is a huge plus for me ans the "Train" was a personal fav) is a HUGE upgrade... of course if you have Dahlen, Sanders, Daine getting any PT any 3* is! As soon as we have a roster full of "recruits" and not 3-5 walkon types we'll be ready to take a huge step forward. He could take a year off and work on improving his length. But it might be risky taking that time away from basketball. I'm thinking large numbers of kids signing during the early signing period is relatively recent in the overall scheme of things. Theres still good kids out there. It would be nice to pick up a Eubanks clone, with more experience than Drew had coming in, to finish out the recruiting. Along with Hollins and the 2 already signed that'd be a heck of a 4 person signing class. Hollins looks like a good get for now, you don't pass on a kid like that. It'll be intersting to see if Tinkle signs another and what it'll be, we're kind of heavy on wings. |
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