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Post by jdogge on Mar 22, 2017 14:02:41 GMT -8
Why is he still available? A better question is why do so many players sign so early? Right now 4 of Scout's top 10 BB recruits are still unsigned. Good players have lots of options, and smart ones take their time and weigh them carefully. In this particular case, my bet is that Hollins calculated that by playing on a national-caliber HS team alongside one of the country's most elite prospects (Ayton), his stock would only rise through his senior season. (I think he might have even grown an inch or two - some sites have him as 6'5", others at 6'6" or 6'7".) So he stayed patient and made sure that he found the right school for him. He sounds like a pretty smart kid without an overgrown ego. Here's Scout's report: "Hollins is a wing with pretty good size at 6-foot-5 and will be able to play both the two and three offensively at the next level. He's got a good stroke and is a capable shooter, who can knock down threes off the catch or pull-up and hit midrange jumpers. Hollins is a good athlete and uses his athleticism to finish above the rim in transition. He's an unselfish player who sees the court well and makes teammates better with his passing. Hollins rebounds well for the position and blocks shots on defense. He has the upside to be a very productive scorer at the next level. Strengths: 3-Point Range, Aggressive Scorer, Athleticism. Areas to Improve: Length" If he's really 6'6" or 6'7", then he sure sounds a lot like Tres. Yeah, but baseba1111 coached his teams into the HS finals in football, basketball, baseball, sumo wrestling, Texas Hold'em Poker, and competitive nose picking. He knows more than the guys paid to actually, you know, scout, recruit and coach college basketball.
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Post by ochobeavo on Mar 22, 2017 14:12:33 GMT -8
I'm completely baffled by all the negativity here. What seems like a very good recruit commits to join the Beavers and people wonder why he was still available? There are plenty of reasons why he might not have committed until now. I for one welcome him with open arms and look forward to him being a part of the Beavers success next year and the three after that. If he ends up not signing, then good luck to him and I hope he made the right decision for himself. Other than Captain Caveat, I think everyone else here is pleased by this development. I think the majority here understand that a verbal commitment isn't the same thing as someone signing. Probably due to all those helpful reminders. anyhow - looks like a good pick-up (we need many solid pick-ups) and he's only 6 games and 12 points from matching Keondre Dew's contribution from this season. I like his chances! Also - Bobby Brady once tried to increase his length by hanging on a swing set. I noticed he's much taller now than he was back then. Maybe it worked?
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 22, 2017 16:30:43 GMT -8
All of the "why is he still available" stuff aside, I'm wondering just what the heck it is with PHOENIX? Wiese, Osahor, Alfred Hollins - and several more? Hotbed!
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Post by gnawitall on Mar 22, 2017 16:31:27 GMT -8
Why is he still available? A better question is why do so many players sign so early? Right now 4 of Scout's top 10 BB recruits are still unsigned. Good players have lots of options, and smart ones take their time and weigh them carefully. In this particular case, my bet is that Hollins calculated that by playing on a national-caliber HS team alongside one of the country's most elite prospects (Ayton), his stock would only rise through his senior season. (I think he might have even grown an inch or two - some sites have him as 6'5", others at 6'6" or 6'7".) So he stayed patient and made sure that he found the right school for him. He sounds like a pretty smart kid without an overgrown ego. Here's Scout's report: "Hollins is a wing with pretty good size at 6-foot-5 and will be able to play both the two and three offensively at the next level. He's got a good stroke and is a capable shooter, who can knock down threes off the catch or pull-up and hit midrange jumpers. Hollins is a good athlete and uses his athleticism to finish above the rim in transition. He's an unselfish player who sees the court well and makes teammates better with his passing. Hollins rebounds well for the position and blocks shots on defense. He has the upside to be a very productive scorer at the next level. Strengths: 3-Point Range, Aggressive Scorer, Athleticism. Areas to Improve: Length" If he's really 6'6" or 6'7", then he sure sounds a lot like Tres. Yeah, but baseba1111 coached his teams into the HS finals in football, basketball, baseball, sumo wrestling, Texas Hold'em Poker, and competitive nose picking. He knows more than the guys paid to actually, you know, scout, recruit and coach college basketball. I enjoy all of you here and have to say that's just funny!
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 22, 2017 16:32:09 GMT -8
All of the "why is he still available" stuff aside, I'm wondering just what the heck it is with PHOENIX? Wiese, Osahor, Alfred Hollins - and several more? Hotbed!
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Post by lebaneaver on Mar 22, 2017 17:57:08 GMT -8
All of the "why is he still available" stuff aside, I'm wondering just what the heck it is with PHOENIX? Wiese, Osahor, Alfred Hollins - and several more? Hotbed! It's TOO DAMN HOT. 'nuff said....
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 22, 2017 18:18:54 GMT -8
All of the "why is he still available" stuff aside, I'm wondering just what the heck it is with PHOENIX? Wiese, Osahor, Alfred Hollins - and several more? Hotbed! It's TOO DAMN HOT. 'nuff said.... Hollins was a Northern California kid until 6 or 8 months ago. Phoenix recruits well sometimes.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 22, 2017 22:00:24 GMT -8
Yeah, but baseba1111 coached his teams into the HS finals in football, basketball, baseball, sumo wrestling, Texas Hold'em Poker, and competitive nose picking. He knows more than the guys paid to actually, you know, scout, recruit and coach college basketball. I enjoy all of you here and have to say that's just funny! "She" actually forgot... polo (mounted and water), synchronized swimming (no pay needed, you're in the water with hot flexible women), hockey (roller blade not ice... I hate the cold), and a side of tutoring. But, I've given up on elementary reading and speech. As I was not been successful with my last pupil... could be her lisp... "the doggie" keeps coming out "jdogge". Just grew tired of "schooling" her! 😊
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Post by blackbug on Mar 22, 2017 22:46:00 GMT -8
Supposed 3/4*? What the heck does that mean. He is a 3/4 star. He will be signing as soon as the Spring period opens, next signee with be a JC power forward/center, and then Malcolm is on the clock to either return or use that scholarship for a veteran point guard, immediately eligible transfer, or JC. Means exactly that... why is he still available if a 4*? "He's best when shooting a 3"... just what us needed another wing that shoots the three. And, the quality JC PF/C left out there that can make it thru the clearinghouse? Is that why this kid was unsigned? Like I said lots of questions... PJ, Dew, Stacy... And... yep, I don't fawn over kids who've yet to step on a court vs the "evidence" of recent recruiting. And... flail away. I was chided on the ftball board for down playing the HS AA game TV signing too. You do realize that about 33% of basketball commits sign in the spring period. Choosing to sign during this period has nothing to do with quality or lack of quality or academics. This logic basically says that you should sign players only in the early period because nothing good comes from the late period. If you do not qualify academically you can just as easily sign in the early period as the late period with the result being the same of not qualifying.
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Post by nabeav on Mar 23, 2017 10:12:03 GMT -8
I watched both videos of him posted at the top of the thread
Yahoo video: Hits an uncontested 14 foot jump shot Gets fouled on two short shots in the lane, neither of which he converts Makes a fairly nice pass to a teammate for a dunk
Youtube video from Oregonian: Wide open dunk Decent contested lay-up against smaller dudes. Wide open dunk (shown multiple times for dramatic effect) putback uncontested layup nice pass to open teammate for a dunk spot up 3 pointer with two guys closing out on him fancy looking bounce pass to cutting teammate for a layup. strange scrolling powerpoint of a basketball court in the shape of the state of Mississippi with the word "Magnolia Hoops."
I HAVE to believe that if all these power 5 schools are after him, there's better video than that out there of him. Anyone seen any other videos?
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Post by obf on Mar 23, 2017 10:17:41 GMT -8
I HAVE to believe that if all these power 5 schools are after him, there's better video than that out there of him. Anyone seen any other videos? You pretty much just described all bball recruiting videos ever... Especially ones that come from the AAU circuits... It is just a dunk fest. I find BBall recruit videos pretty much useless...
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Post by mb on Mar 23, 2017 14:21:32 GMT -8
"She" actually forgot... polo (mounted and water), SYNCHRONIZED SWIMMING (no pay needed, you're in the water with hot flexible women), hockey (roller blade not ice... I hate the cold), and a side of tutoring. But, I've given up on elementary reading and speech. As I was not been successful with my last pupil... could be her lisp... "the doggie" keeps coming out "jdogge". Just grew tired of "schooling" her! 😊
Finally! The connection between OSU and Michael Conforto is brought to light. Thanks you, baseba1111. MB.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 23, 2017 15:03:30 GMT -8
Means exactly that... why is he still available if a 4*? "He's best when shooting a 3"... just what us needed another wing that shoots the three. And, the quality JC PF/C left out there that can make it thru the clearinghouse? Is that why this kid was unsigned? Like I said lots of questions... PJ, Dew, Stacy... And... yep, I don't fawn over kids who've yet to step on a court vs the "evidence" of recent recruiting. And... flail away. I was chided on the ftball board for down playing the HS AA game TV signing too. You do realize that about 33% of basketball commits sign in the spring period. Choosing to sign during this period has nothing to do with quality or lack of quality or academics. This logic basically says that you should sign players only in the early period because nothing good comes from the late period. If you do not qualify academically you can just as easily sign in the early period as the late period with the result being the same of not qualifying. I guess if you want to think all 33% sign late because there are no academic or other issues I'll not be able to change your mind. However, you'd be interested to know many kids don't get to "sign" (the offers are there if issues are cleared up) during the early period if they are a mid level player (3* or lower tier 4*) with some "issues". Those type of players also see offers dry up once schollies are filled and they don't want to walk on. So a "list" of offers can be a litle inaccurate depending on circumstances. Believe me if he was highly rated, had zero issues, and the programs listed had room and truly wanted him... more likely than not he'd have signed. That's why 70% or more sign as soon as possible... spots at good schools disappear. I have zero info about Hollins, and only brought up the possibility as it correlates to the reasons for many late signees. Also that he is obviously more talented than our walk ons, but not a position of real need. So... is he filling a scholly because we are going to miss out on another big? And, if MD and CN are allowed back then we did indeed miss again on the true area of need.
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Post by greshambeaver on Mar 23, 2017 18:31:24 GMT -8
Actually, I think he was a Robinson committment originally, then he backed off and waited to see what would happen. Oregon and LSU were interested, but he was thinking about playing time.....
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 23, 2017 19:09:03 GMT -8
Actually, I think he was a Robinson committment originally, then he backed off and waited to see what would happen. Oregon and LSU were interested, but he was thinking about playing time..... BOOM goes the dynamite!
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