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Post by TheGlove on Oct 30, 2016 19:43:09 GMT -8
After 22 conference games of the CGA era at OSU, that's when I'll start thinking more critically about his tenure here at OSU. Some may say 3 years, some may say 5. That's fine. My benchmark will be 22. That's roughly equivalent to 2.5 years of conference play. And there should be, at that time, some very good progress towards a winning program.
It's too early right now. Not many wins, in fact only one so far. A lot of bad combined with a small, but incrementally growing good.
It doesn't matter to me what he did at USU or Wiscy. I don't care. He's here now and that is all that matters to me.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 31, 2016 5:18:27 GMT -8
This squad is vastly improved over last years, in all facets. So while the end result may be bad, CGA has it trending in the right direction. Next year may still be a below 500 team, but I expect by 2018 with a lot of Jr. and Sr., more depth, and hopefully a Pac 12 caliber QB, and MM should be that by his senior year, OS could be Colorado good.
Think about it, all these guys should still be here in 2018! How many teams can say they have 14 or 15 returning starters...in two years.
Nall, Collins, MM, Lucas, Hernandez, Ogwoegbu, Aydon, Vaka, Pierce, Bradford, Brandel, Lavaka, Crawford, Moore, Wily-Matagi, Togiai
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Post by vhalum92 on Oct 31, 2016 7:28:59 GMT -8
Just my take.... we are ahead of schedule.
Think of the injuries we are overcoming right now, and granted we are a better team at Home then on the road (same is true for most College teams) we were in the game with Utah and WSU...
To steal a thought from another thread... our strength of schedule right now is #21 in the nation, we have played 5 of the teams in today's top 25. The cherry on top is recruiting, seems to be on the up tick.
My only gripe is can we take a snap from under center on short yardage? We have this guy named Nall that is a beast when he gets a head of steam!
Go BEAVS!I'm starting to believe again.
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Post by justdamwin on Oct 31, 2016 7:39:04 GMT -8
I expect to see an incredible improvement in 2017. they lose one skill player. Three Olinemen, One of which is a very good player but has struggled due to health in 2016. The defense loses three players, DB will be the only area of concern but there should be talent on the roster. Aydon and Vakameilalo will be exciting on the Dline. Vaka basically lost a year of development with nagging injury and Aydon has the physical tools which will come together with the mental part in 2017. Pritchard is servicable. The conference probably gets stronger in 17. USC will be better, UO will be better. Utah? Cal? ASU? UA? WSU? stronger QB play, a gelled and healthy Oline and a couple DBs (who are on the roster I think) and I think 2017 is a 500+ team Portland State, Minn @ home and Colorado state are all winnable.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 31, 2016 8:00:57 GMT -8
After 22 conference games of the CGA era at OSU, that's when I'll start thinking more critically about his tenure here at OSU. Some may say 3 years, some may say 5. That's fine. My benchmark will be 22. That's roughly equivalent to 2.5 years of conference play. And there should be, at that time, some very good progress towards a winning program. It's too early right now. Not many wins, in fact only one so far. A lot of bad combined with a small, but incrementally growing good. It doesn't matter to me what he did at USU or Wiscy. I don't care. He's here now and that is all that matters to me. I am overall feeling a little better. We don't have wins, but we have absolutely been a more competitive team on the field than last year. I still have some coaching call qualms, and things of that sort, but I feel progress is happening. I will say we need to see wins next year though. We need to be a 6-7 win bowl team. that is really the arc.
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Post by joeavocado on Oct 31, 2016 8:45:35 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue.
OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420
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Post by beavineugene on Oct 31, 2016 8:56:36 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue. OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420 You should have watched Saturday's game....
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 31, 2016 8:57:06 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue. OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420 Can we wait at least until we actually lose 3 or 4 of the remaining games before you declare it certain? We do still get to play the remaining 4 games against opponents who are collectively 13-19 overall, and 5-16 in the Pac-12. I haven't been too easy on the realities of GA's tenure, but I'm at least willing to see where the pieces actually fall by the end of the season.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 31, 2016 9:45:37 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue. OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420 You have limiting beliefs. After the last two games, I'm 90% certain we will win at least two of the next four games, I'm 50 percent certain we will win three of the next four games, and I think there's a 25% chance we win all four and go bowling. Guess that makes me 165% certain we will win more that just one of the next four games.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 31, 2016 10:12:50 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue. OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420 You have limiting beliefs. After the last two games, I'm 90% certain we will win at least two of the next four games, I'm 50 percent certain we will win three of the next four games, and I think there's a 25% chance we win all four and go bowling. Guess that makes me 165% certain we will win more that just one of the next four games. Being the guy who picked us to win 5 before I saw the same deficiencies in the staff not being addressed its hard to win without offense. In 6 games 119 pts... take away the two worst Ds and 78 pts... 41 pts in 4 games vs "other" D's does not bode well. Stanford is the key to me... we've got to come out completely healthy to have a prayer of winning two more. I don't see our offense/depth competing with even a down Stanford D. We just can't get hurt. UCLA can't seem to run the ball but can throw and are physically more talented. Just don't see this as a win on the road. Again for us to have a chance the last two home games we have to be gaining bodies not losing them. Zona is the only team I see as a BETTER win game. They are terrible on offense and very poor on D. CW is "Cal 2"... we'll have to outscore them. Their offense is not lacking unless you force them to play from way behind and become one dimensional. If we're not close to 100% healthy and dont get points on the majority of our drives (weather not with standing) our D not holding them to under 30. We're not winning vs average to good defenses with 10-15 pts.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 31, 2016 14:52:13 GMT -8
Doesn't matter if you evaluate now or a few games from now, it's going to be a two-year record of 4-20 (1-17) or at best 5-19 (2-16). My biggest concern is that OSU will end the season having gone two years without a PAC-12 level starting QB on the roster. No one can throw a decent ball more than 7 yards downfied. Until OSU finds a real QB, there will be no bowl game. It needs to turn quickly for the sake of revenue. OSU Home Attendance: 2016: 36,827 (trending to end at about 37,500 due to civil war) 2015: 36,079 2014: 42,176 2013: 42,801 2012: 44,859 2011: 42,420 You have limiting beliefs. After the last two games, I'm 90% certain we will win at least two of the next four games, I'm 50 percent certain we will win three of the next four games, and I think there's a 25% chance we win all four and go bowling. Guess that makes me 165% certain we will win more that just one of the next four games. I love the enthusiasm! Would you care to put money on that 6-6 proposition? I will give you 3:1 odds. Happily. I would hazard to guess that Oregon State's chances are much closer to 130:1 than 3:1. The odds that we get to 5-7 I think are more like 7% than 50%, as I see it. If Oregon State stays healthy, they should beat Arizona. With the other three games, I want to say that they win at least one. Do not ask me to guess which one. That bring the Beavers to 4-8, which is a great season (when compared to last year and compared to how I was feeling heading into the California game). The difference between winning one of the three non-Arizona games plus the Arizona game is a huge chasm in my mind's eye. I suppose that Oregon State could just flat out outscore Stanford, but teams outside of the state of Washington are averaging 11 ppg on them. I think that they have a top 5 defense. Offensively, they are middling, but unlike California, Washington, and Washington State, their strength is Oregon State's weakness. They run the ball extremely well. All-told, I think that they are a top 20 team which merely has had the misfortune of playing a top 5 schedule. I see the Beavers losing and by at least two scores. Having said that, the game is winnable, but Oregon State needs to have the front 7 play out of their minds and find the end zone at least twice. UCLA is better than Oregon State, and the game is in Pasadena. Curious to see what happens in that Colorado game. UCLA is going to start playing inspired, or it is likely to miss a bowl game. If Colorado wins, UCLA will be sitting at 3-6, needing all three wins. Might have a let down, knowing that they need the three. Either way, they get two extra days to prepare for Oregon State. (The Bruins play on Thursday this week.) Going to be difficult. Arizona is a should win. The Wildcats look bad. Arizona has not won in Corvallis since 2009 (Nick Foles' first game as starter). The Beavers are 6-2 since Parker Stadium was renamed Reser Stadium. Civil War will be interesting. Oregon is staring into the teeth of @usc, Stanford, and @utah. If they drop two of those three, I do not know that they will be that motivated to play Oregon State. The Beavers could steal one from the worst Duck team in 25 years.
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Post by BeaverNut23 on Oct 31, 2016 15:57:24 GMT -8
Comparing last year to this year, the Beavs have deff improved, they have more fight in em, also we have more weapons on offense than last year aswell. and I believe in the beavs to keep improving for the next several years to come under Gary Andersen, I Believe in Gary Anderson and his process! Go Beavs!!
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Post by nforkbeav on Oct 31, 2016 16:18:53 GMT -8
After 22 conference games of the CGA era at OSU, that's when I'll start thinking more critically about his tenure here at OSU. Some may say 3 years, some may say 5. That's fine. My benchmark will be 22. That's roughly equivalent to 2.5 years of conference play. And there should be, at that time, some very good progress towards a winning program. It's too early right now. Not many wins, in fact only one so far. A lot of bad combined with a small, but incrementally growing good. It doesn't matter to me what he did at USU or Wiscy. I don't care. He's here now and that is all that matters to me. A HC revolving door is not a recipe for success at OSU. What choice is there other than to give him 5 years to build "his team"? Bring in another coach and make excuses for 3-4 years while he brings in "his guys" and installs his system?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 17:14:52 GMT -8
After 22 conference games of the CGA era at OSU, that's when I'll start thinking more critically about his tenure here at OSU. Some may say 3 years, some may say 5. That's fine. My benchmark will be 22. That's roughly equivalent to 2.5 years of conference play. And there should be, at that time, some very good progress towards a winning program. It's too early right now. Not many wins, in fact only one so far. A lot of bad combined with a small, but incrementally growing good. It doesn't matter to me what he did at USU or Wiscy. I don't care. He's here now and that is all that matters to me. A HC revolving door is not a recipe for success at OSU. What choice is there other than to give him 5 years to build "his team"? Bring in another coach and make excuses for 3-4 years while he brings in "his guys" and installs his system? I think some of us (and when i say us I mean not me) are not O.K. with GA figuring this thing out as he goes along. He is in it for the long haul. He is trying to assemble a staff and players that can win games not on the basis of talent alone but a work culture, a belief in preparation and winning the line of scrimmage first. The playcalling and the schemes and the in-game strategies at this point seem no better or worse than what Riley/Banker/Langsdorf came up with in their last few years. The effort is definitely better.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 31, 2016 17:43:19 GMT -8
You have limiting beliefs. After the last two games, I'm 90% certain we will win at least two of the next four games, I'm 50 percent certain we will win three of the next four games, and I think there's a 25% chance we win all four and go bowling. Guess that makes me 165% certain we will win more that just one of the next four games. I love the enthusiasm! Would you care to put money on that 6-6 proposition? I will give you 3:1 odds. Happily. I would hazard to guess that Oregon State's chances are much closer to 130:1 than 3:1. The odds that we get to 5-7 I think are more like 7% than 50%, as I see it. If Oregon State stays healthy, they should beat Arizona. With the other three games, I want to say that they win at least one. Do not ask me to guess which one. That bring the Beavers to 4-8, which is a great season (when compared to last year and compared to how I was feeling heading into the California game). The difference between winning one of the three non-Arizona games plus the Arizona game is a huge chasm in my mind's eye. I suppose that Oregon State could just flat out outscore Stanford, but teams outside of the state of Washington are averaging 11 ppg on them. I think that they have a top 5 defense. Offensively, they are middling, but unlike California, Washington, and Washington State, their strength is Oregon State's weakness. They run the ball extremely well. All-told, I think that they are a top 20 team which merely has had the misfortune of playing a top 5 schedule. I see the Beavers losing and by at least two scores. Having said that, the game is winnable, but Oregon State needs to have the front 7 play out of their minds and find the end zone at least twice. UCLA is better than Oregon State, and the game is in Pasadena. Curious to see what happens in that Colorado game. UCLA is going to start playing inspired, or it is likely to miss a bowl game. If Colorado wins, UCLA will be sitting at 3-6, needing all three wins. Might have a let down, knowing that they need the three. Either way, they get two extra days to prepare for Oregon State. (The Bruins play on Thursday this week.) Going to be difficult. Arizona is a should win. The Wildcats look bad. Arizona has not won in Corvallis since 2009 (Nick Foles' first game as starter). The Beavers are 6-2 since Parker Stadium was renamed Reser Stadium. Civil War will be interesting. Oregon is staring into the teeth of @usc, Stanford, and @utah. If they drop two of those three, I do not know that they will be that motivated to play Oregon State. The Beavers could steal one from the worst Duck team in 25 years. You lost me at giving me 3 to 1 odds on something I said had a 1 in 4 odds of happening.
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