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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 5, 2024 12:37:39 GMT -8
Can we quit blaming the 1969 milton incident as the problem at oregon state university? Do you realize that schools like Alabama, Georgia, lsu, and Mississippi didn't even allow blacks to play til 1971? I imagine things weren't all that rosy on those campuses back then. This gets to be a "didn't allowed" African-Americans to play to couldn't get African-Americans to enroll at a previously-segregated athletic program. Alabama and Georgia recruited African-American football players to play before 1971. It took LSU and Ole Miss until 1971 to get an African-American to agree to play football at both schools. The issue with the Fred Milton Affair is that the administration did not fully back Dee Andros and did not fully back Fred Milton. If Andros was right, they should have just implemented Andros' rule, which they did not. If Milton was right, they should have fired Andros, which they did not. Oregon State kept Andros as head coach. While almost every other school was integrating more and more, Oregon State kept a "racist" coach, which the university refused to fully denounce or support until 1975. And then they made Andros AD and then they kept him on until 1986 in an official unofficial capacity. This reminds me of John Mitchel's statement about the Irish Potato Famine, "The Almighty, indeed, sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine." A potato blight does not cause a 48.24% population decrease; a bigoted attempt to systematically depopulate a country does. The Fred Milton Affair was a nothingburger by itself, but Oregon State's management of the situation and the amplification by the national media turned what should have been nothing into a firestorm, which cast a cloud over the football team until at least the mid-'80s. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Nov 5, 2024 12:46:04 GMT -8
Can we quit blaming the 1969 milton incident as the problem at oregon state university? Do you realize that schools like Alabama, Georgia, lsu, and Mississippi didn't even allow blacks to play til 1971? I imagine things weren't all that rosy on those campuses back then. This gets to be a "didn't allowed" African-Americans to play to couldn't get African-Americans to enroll at a previously-segregated athletic program. Alabama and Georgia recruited African-American football players to play before 1971. It took LSU and Ole Miss until 1971 to get an African-American to agree to play football at both schools. The issue with the Fred Milton Affair is that the administration did not fully back Dee Andros and did not fully back Fred Milton. If Andros was right, they should have just implemented Andros' rule, which they did not. If Milton was right, they should have fired Andros, which they did not. Oregon State kept Andros as head coach. While almost every other school was integrating more and more, Oregon State kept a "racist" coach, which the university refused to fully denounce or support until 1975. And then they made Andros AD and then they kept him on until 1986 in an official unofficial capacity. This reminds me of John Mitchel's statement about the Irish Potato Famine, "The Almighty, indeed, sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine." A potato blight does not cause a 48.24% population decrease; a bigoted attempt to systematically depopulate a country does. The Fred Milton Affair was a nothingburger by itself, but Oregon State's management of the situation and the amplification by the national media turned what should have been nothing into a firestorm, which cast a cloud over the football team until at least the mid-'80s. Fred, and Dee became friends later in life. Dee really wasn't racist. He was an old school coach who wanted to enforce his rules. Unfortunately, the race card was played, and it was right at the tail end of the Civil Rights movement. Bad timing......Bad luck. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 5, 2024 14:04:18 GMT -8
This gets to be a "didn't allowed" African-Americans to play to couldn't get African-Americans to enroll at a previously-segregated athletic program. Alabama and Georgia recruited African-American football players to play before 1971. It took LSU and Ole Miss until 1971 to get an African-American to agree to play football at both schools. The issue with the Fred Milton Affair is that the administration did not fully back Dee Andros and did not fully back Fred Milton. If Andros was right, they should have just implemented Andros' rule, which they did not. If Milton was right, they should have fired Andros, which they did not. Oregon State kept Andros as head coach. While almost every other school was integrating more and more, Oregon State kept a "racist" coach, which the university refused to fully denounce or support until 1975. And then they made Andros AD and then they kept him on until 1986 in an official unofficial capacity. This reminds me of John Mitchel's statement about the Irish Potato Famine, "The Almighty, indeed, sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine." A potato blight does not cause a 48.24% population decrease; a bigoted attempt to systematically depopulate a country does. The Fred Milton Affair was a nothingburger by itself, but Oregon State's management of the situation and the amplification by the national media turned what should have been nothing into a firestorm, which cast a cloud over the football team until at least the mid-'80s. Fred, and Dee became friends later in life. Dee really wasn't racist. He was an old school coach who wanted to enforce his rules. Unfortunately, the race card was played, and it was right at the tail end of the Civil Rights movement. Bad timing......Bad luck.  This was October 16, 1968, 3-5 months earlier. The gold medalist is of course Tommie Smith. A fun fact is that Tommie's younger brother, Ernie, was a hurdler for Oregon State. So, guess where Tommie Smith went after the Fred Milton Affair? To Corvallis is the answer to provide a very loud voice to Fred Milton's "side." The Civil Rights Movement may have peaked in 1968, but it was still alive and well in February 1969 and for several years thereafter. The Weather Underground bombed both the Capitol on March 1, 1971, and the Pentagon on May 19, 1972. Things largely started to wind down a couple of years after that, but the Civil Rights Movement was still huge until at least the mid-'80s. |
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