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Post by korculabeav on Nov 2, 2024 14:58:19 GMT -8
1. Would have provided a Pacific time zone school that could have brought more viewers from numerous Pacific TV markets.
2. A power 4 school with a power 4 stadium.
3. A football program that likely would have stayed in tact with bitch tits likely staying. Most of the portal transfers would have stayed and a team that would have been competitive in this year’s big 12 football schedule.
4. A national baseball and WBB power along with numerous Olympic sports that compete and would have enhanced the big 12 as a league (gymnastics, etc.).
It is too late now. The Big 12 focked up and the result is a destroyed football program and potential for athletic dept. decline.
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 2, 2024 15:11:43 GMT -8
1. Would have provided a Pacific time zone school that could have brought more viewers from numerous Pacific TV markets. 2. A power 4 school with a power 4 stadium. 3. A football program that likely would have stayed in tact with bitch tits likely staying. Most of the portal transfers would have stayed and a team that would have been competitive in this year’s big 12 football schedule. 4. A national baseball and WBB power along with numerous Olympic sports that compete and would have enhanced the big 12 as a league (gymnastics, etc.). It is too late now. The Big 12 focked up and the result is a destroyed football program and potential for athletic dept. decline. No... B12 didn't. B12 doesn't say who to add. If their media partner wanted OSU, they would have been added. |
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Post by ftd on Nov 2, 2024 15:39:33 GMT -8
OSU is in the Big 12. and the Big 10...and the Pac 12
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Post by grayman on Nov 2, 2024 18:24:50 GMT -8
1. Would have provided a Pacific time zone school that could have brought more viewers from numerous Pacific TV markets. 2. A power 4 school with a power 4 stadium. 3. A football program that likely would have stayed in tact with bitch tits likely staying. Most of the portal transfers would have stayed and a team that would have been competitive in this year’s big 12 football schedule. 4. A national baseball and WBB power along with numerous Olympic sports that compete and would have enhanced the big 12 as a league (gymnastics, etc.). It is too late now. The Big 12 focked up and the result is a destroyed football program and potential for athletic dept. decline. No... B12 didn't. B12 doesn't say who to add. If their media partner wanted OSU, they would have been added. The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. |
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Post by sparty on Nov 2, 2024 18:46:18 GMT -8
No... B12 didn't. B12 doesn't say who to add. If their media partner wanted OSU, they would have been added. The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. Pretty accurate assessment you made yet some still don't get it or choose not to get it. |
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Post by rafer on Nov 2, 2024 18:59:26 GMT -8
The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. Pretty accurate assessment you made yet some still don't get it or choose not to get it. No way P. KNIGHT wanted OSU in the B1G and he got what he wanted, to be the only viable team in the state. The Beavs were threatening to be a big time pain in his fanny in all the major sports, fb, bb, wbb. He got the B1G to dump us and then he bought a team. End of story. Thank you Unca Fill and nike!! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 2, 2024 19:12:35 GMT -8
Pretty accurate assessment you made yet some still don't get it or choose not to get it. No way P. KNIGHT wanted OSU in the B1G and he got what he wanted, to be the only viable team in the state. The Beavs were threatening to be a big time pain in his fanny in all the major sports, fb, bb, wbb. He got the B1G to dump us and then he bought a team. End of story. Thank you Unca Fill and nike!! This is ridiculous. If Knight had his way, Oregon would have still been in the Pac-12. And absent that, Stanford would be in the Big Ten with Oregon. And absent that, Oregon State would be in the Big Ten with both Oregon and Stanford. Oregon State is not Knight's favorite university, but Knight promotes the two large Oregon universities. I am no Knight fan, but he is not some kind of weird, vindictive monster. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 2, 2024 19:32:26 GMT -8
No way P. KNIGHT wanted OSU in the B1G and he got what he wanted, to be the only viable team in the state. The Beavs were threatening to be a big time pain in his fanny in all the major sports, fb, bb, wbb. He got the B1G to dump us and then he bought a team. End of story. Thank you Unca Fill and nike!! This is ridiculous. If Knight had his way, Oregon would have still been in the Pac-12. And absent that, Stanford would be in the Big Ten with Oregon. And absent that, Oregon State would be in the Big Ten with both Oregon and Stanford. Oregon State is not Knight's favorite university, but Knight promotes the two large Oregon universities. I am no Knight fan, but he is not some kind of weird, vindictive monster. Disagree. When it comes to U of O what Phil wants Phil gets. If he wanted the Ducks to be in the P10 they would have signed as agreed, and the deal would be done. He didn’t, and they didn’t. |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 2, 2024 19:53:45 GMT -8
No... B12 didn't. B12 doesn't say who to add. If their media partner wanted OSU, they would have been added. The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. Without the media partners approval of who and how many there would be no additions. The B12 teams weren't shooting themselves in the foot to split $ unless the media ponies up. The media was the deciding factor. Period. Additional $ was based the who and how many based on the media contract offer. Yormark could have wanted more, but with no money approval, no go. Plus, on what basis is the mistake? Exactly what media numbers has either Pac12 team shown that would show they deserve to be part of that contract vs two of the other schools? Or that the #s warranted two more additions without increasing the contact amount? Answer... they don't. Media wasn't giving more, hence no additions. The entire realignment scenarios are money driven. Who's? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 2, 2024 19:56:25 GMT -8
This is ridiculous. If Knight had his way, Oregon would have still been in the Pac-12. And absent that, Stanford would be in the Big Ten with Oregon. And absent that, Oregon State would be in the Big Ten with both Oregon and Stanford. Oregon State is not Knight's favorite university, but Knight promotes the two large Oregon universities. I am no Knight fan, but he is not some kind of weird, vindictive monster. Disagree. When it comes to U of O what Phil wants Phil gets. If he wanted the Ducks to be in the P10 they would have signed as agreed, and the deal would be done. He didn’t, and they didn’t. Washington wanted into the Big Ten. Oregon went along, because they wanted to stay with Washington and didn't see a path forward without Washington. The fact that Stanford is in the ACC means that Phil does not get what he wants. |
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Post by seastape on Nov 2, 2024 21:14:19 GMT -8
No way P. KNIGHT wanted OSU in the B1G and he got what he wanted, to be the only viable team in the state. The Beavs were threatening to be a big time pain in his fanny in all the major sports, fb, bb, wbb. He got the B1G to dump us and then he bought a team. End of story. Thank you Unca Fill and nike!! This is ridiculous. If Knight had his way, Oregon would have still been in the Pac-12. And absent that, Stanford would be in the Big Ten with Oregon. And absent that, Oregon State would be in the Big Ten with both Oregon and Stanford. Oregon State is not Knight's favorite university, but Knight promotes the two large Oregon universities. I am no Knight fan, but he is not some kind of weird, vindictive monster.Sure he is. nwlaborpress.org/2000/5-5-00Nike.html |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 2, 2024 21:22:24 GMT -8
This is ridiculous. If Knight had his way, Oregon would have still been in the Pac-12. And absent that, Stanford would be in the Big Ten with Oregon. And absent that, Oregon State would be in the Big Ten with both Oregon and Stanford. Oregon State is not Knight's favorite university, but Knight promotes the two large Oregon universities. I am no Knight fan, but he is not some kind of weird, vindictive monster.Sure he is. nwlaborpress.org/2000/5-5-00Nike.htmlI am not going to pretend that Phil Knight made his money the right way. He made it by sending American jobs overseas and profiting on foreign peoples' poverty. But what you cited does not show any sense of vindictiveness or weirdness. Just a regular monster. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 3, 2024 9:15:36 GMT -8
No... B12 didn't. B12 doesn't say who to add. If their media partner wanted OSU, they would have been added. The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. If the media partners don't want to pony up another 35 million bucks (whatever the number is) to add OSU at the same rate as everyone else, either OSU takes a big shave or the existing schools do. If OSU was desperate to get in, like Cal and Stanford were, maybe your scenario works. Cal and Stanford are estimated to bring in about 9 million a year in TV money from the ACC the next 7 years. Media ponying up for the mountain zone Pac 12 teams got them in. Do you really think the Big 12 holds all the cards when it came to the Big 12 adding OSU? I hope the new Pac can do better than Stanford and Cal did. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 3, 2024 9:30:57 GMT -8
The Big 12 does decide who to add. Yormark and the schools might be swayed a certain way by the media partners, in the Big 12's case those are ESPN and Fox. The Big 12 needs stronger TV numbers so it does seem to be a mistake to not add Oregon State and WSU from that standpoint. If the media partners don't want to pony up another 35 million bucks (whatever the number is) to add OSU at the same rate as everyone else, either OSU takes a big shave or the existing schools do. If OSU was desperate to get in, like Cal and Stanford were, maybe your scenario works. Cal and Stanford are estimated to bring in about 9 million a year in TV money from the ACC the next 7 years. Media ponying up for the mountain zone Pac 12 teams got them in. Do you really think the Big 12 holds all the cards when it came to the Big 12 adding OSU? I hope the new Pac can do better than Stanford and Cal did. Cal and Stanford are getting 30% of the payout. It’s more than $9 million. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 3, 2024 10:00:12 GMT -8
If the media partners don't want to pony up another 35 million bucks (whatever the number is) to add OSU at the same rate as everyone else, either OSU takes a big shave or the existing schools do. If OSU was desperate to get in, like Cal and Stanford were, maybe your scenario works. Cal and Stanford are estimated to bring in about 9 million a year in TV money from the ACC the next 7 years. Media ponying up for the mountain zone Pac 12 teams got them in. Do you really think the Big 12 holds all the cards when it came to the Big 12 adding OSU? I hope the new Pac can do better than Stanford and Cal did. Cal and Stanford are getting 30% of the payout. It’s more than $9 million. I've seen anywhere from 25-35 million in conference payout listed in articles about the league. From Google (like most articles, not necessarily accurate): "As part of their agreement to join the ACC, Stanford and Cal will receive reduced television revenue shares for the first nine years of their membership: TV revenue shares Cal and Stanford will receive reduced, but escalating, TV revenue shares over the first 12 years of their membership. They will start at about 30% of the standard per-school distribution. Full membership Cal and Stanford will eventually receive full ACC revenue shares. A full share is estimated at about $25 million per year. The ACC's television contract with ESPN runs through 2036. ESPN pays the ACC $24 million annually for each new team added. The deal splits TV revenue evenly between all 14 schools." "IF" the ACC contract is at the higher range, Stanford and Cal could pull in maybe 11/12 million. If the article was accurate, 9 million is a generous estimate. Time will tell if the Pac does better. From a strict $$ standpoint, I think rebuilding the Pac is probably worth the risk, especially considering the NCAA money (tournament units, etc) coming in the Pac gets to keep the next several years if it doesn't disband. |
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