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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 19, 2024 22:50:20 GMT -8
UNLV is a rising program with continuity vs a team that was absolutely gutted by a coaching change and the portal. It's not an excuse, it's just reality. Yes. We are living a new reality. We will not be decimated by the portal this year and can begin to rebuild. People need to accept it and make the best of it. Our former conference mates are gone, boys, and they ain't coming back.
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 19, 2024 22:57:17 GMT -8
Things we can do better. We are talent poor but we are doing somethings poorly that do not take talent. Taking the right path to set the edge doesn’t take talent, holding it and making the play does but being in the right place doesn’t. Breaking down correctly to tackle doesn’t take talent, maybe you don’t finish but you should be able to get it the correct position.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Oct 19, 2024 23:18:15 GMT -8
We have a total of 3 TD passes on the season which ranks 132nd in the country, ahead of only Kennesaw State and Air Force who have 2. I haven't seen a passing offense this bad at OSU since the Jerry Pettibone era.
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Post by speakthetruth on Oct 19, 2024 23:46:17 GMT -8
Just made it home after a 2 hour drive. For the upteenth time will gunderson ever realize that Mccoy is not a drop back passer. Let him rollout and put the pressure on the defense. God damn it. Wake up gunderson.
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Post by sonoma beav on Oct 20, 2024 7:01:17 GMT -8
Barry Odom has turned around a bad UNLV program in less than two years along with surviving the late departure of the starting QB. Will OSU have the same success with their staff and roster?
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Oct 20, 2024 7:04:40 GMT -8
Terry was knocked down/tripped, incidental? Definitely contact. Hankerson (?) was wide open? Tough ending. I don't think we want that called on us if the situation were reversed, but I wanted it called on them. I can see your point. BUT, if its holding or PI on the defense then is should be called. Umps let them play last night. There were a few plays on both sides where I'm surprised PI wasn't called.
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Post by rafer on Oct 20, 2024 7:32:32 GMT -8
Barry Odom has turned around a bad UNLV program in less than two years along with surviving the late departure of the starting QB. Will OSU have the same success with their staff and roster? NO.
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Post by rafer on Oct 20, 2024 7:38:38 GMT -8
yea, that was painful. Refs failed in the last 30 seconds. Not to say we would have scored the TD, but first the flag before the ref says ready to play and then ignoring the knock down in the end zone. It sucks. McCoy will probably kick himself when he sees the game film. Hankerson was WIDE open on that last play. I wonder if the play was just designed to go to Terry all along and just didn't even look at Hankerson. How bout Bray, or Gundy kicking him first. We are not close to a drop back team, plus our O line at times was a leaking boat!!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 20, 2024 8:42:35 GMT -8
Barry Odom has turned around a bad UNLV program in less than two years along with surviving the late departure of the starting QB. Will OSU have the same success with their staff and roster? NO. Those of us who aren't sunshine patriots will find out, I guess.
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 20, 2024 9:03:17 GMT -8
Im a bit concerned about Bray…. He channeled Mike Boozelootee after the game….”……we just ran out of time….” No s%#t.
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Post by bvrbred on Oct 20, 2024 10:00:15 GMT -8
Those of us who aren't sunshine patriots will find out, I guess. One can talk about all the adverse circumstances the program has faced, and I think that talk is certainly legitimate. But prior to the season who was predicting a nailbiter win against Colo State, followed by losses to Nevada and UNLV? None of us. Who was predicting one of the worst statistical rush defenses in years? How about sweating out 6-6, or worse, against a MWC schedule? None of us. In fact prior to the season our head coach was talking about competing for the cfp. "Sunshine patriot," or otherwise, concern about the direction of the program at this point is something I share.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 20, 2024 10:26:37 GMT -8
Those of us who aren't sunshine patriots will find out, I guess. One can talk about all the adverse circumstances the program has faced, and I think that talk is certainly legitimate. But prior to the season who was predicting a nailbiter win against Colo State, followed by losses to Nevada and UNLV? None of us. Who was predicting one of the worst statistical rush defenses in years? How about sweating out 6-6, or worse, against a MWC schedule? None of us. In fact prior to the season our head coach was talking about competing for the cfp. "Sunshine patriot," or otherwise, concern about the direction of the program at this point is something I share. I'm concerned as well. However I (and I assume you) will be there regardless, unlike (so it sounds) sunshine patriots like our friend rafer and his sock monkey korcula. Prior to the season, who was predicting the avalanche of injuries which have decimated our defense, especially our front 7, which is generally responsible for rushing defense? I'm not as versed in schemes, etc., as some here seem to be, but I do know backups are never as good as starters and if you are forced to play backups as starters there will be a sure decline in results. I thought Bray was talking about "competing for the cfp" in general terms regarding the goals of the program going forward, not specifically this season. After the huge graduation/portal losses that essentially gutted our upperclassmen, we had no shot at the cfp and he knew it.
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Post by grayman on Oct 20, 2024 10:27:40 GMT -8
Those of us who aren't sunshine patriots will find out, I guess. One can talk about all the adverse circumstances the program has faced, and I think that talk is certainly legitimate. But prior to the season who was predicting a nailbiter win against Colo State, followed by losses to Nevada and UNLV? None of us. Who was predicting one of the worst statistical rush defenses in years? How about sweating out 6-6, or worse, against a MWC schedule? None of us. In fact prior to the season our head coach was talking about competing for the cfp. "Sunshine patriot," or otherwise, concern about the direction of the program at this point is something I share. I agree with your points but also acknowledge that we weren't predicting a ridiculous amount of injuries and DNPs. I thought Bray and his staff was going to be really good and now I have serious doubts, particularly about the defensive coaches. This program was in pretty good shape for the most part from the late 90s until GAG. But it was able to recover and get up to a relatively strong level under JS. But OSU was in the old Pac-12 back then. No longer in a power conference, OSU is facing a future with a lot less money coming at the worst possible time. I hope the new Pac-12 will add some more "name" schools and get to the point where it is at least pushing the Big 12 and ACC. But it is still relegation.
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Post by grayman on Oct 20, 2024 10:37:44 GMT -8
I would add that the Beavers are facing another rebuild of the offensive line this off-season and who knows about the defense and random portal losses? We aren't going to have two plug and play offensive linemen coming in from Colorado or a longtime starter (Gray) back. We will lose players to the portal. That's a given. If this season spirals out of control, then there's a good chance we'll have more players at least considering it than otherwise. So rebuilding with a lot less money and no power conference status to offer...
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 20, 2024 11:12:46 GMT -8
I would add that the Beavers are facing another rebuild of the offensive line this off-season and who knows about the defense and random portal losses? We aren't going to have two plug and play offensive linemen coming in from Colorado or a longtime starter (Gray) back. We will lose players to the portal. That's a given. If this season spirals out of control, then there's a good chance we'll have more players at least considering it than otherwise. So rebuilding with a lot less money and no power conference status to offer... Sounds like there's no reason for me to continue to be an OSU football fan, then. Thanks for clearing that up.
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