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"I think real leaders show up when times are hard." Trent Bray 11/29/2023
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Post by ftd on Oct 8, 2024 15:54:10 GMT -8
Environmental concerns aside, and debates about what virtues are being signaled by whom, here is what really disappoints me about Cal/Stanford..... (before I get to that, USC/UCLA/UW/uo are a bunch of money grubbing traitorous scumbags that can't be trusted in any negotiations (think original "Han shot first" Star Wars Mos Eisley denizens, but you already knew that....) Where was I? Ah, yes, what really galls me about Calford is they could have been party to exactly the same thinking being exhibited by OSU/WSU right now, of "look, we can rebuild, be reborn, create our own path forward". A kernel of a conference comprising WSU/OSU/Calford would have had a lot going for it by way of West coast product......They didn't need to take a "pennies on the dollar" bad deal, but since conference migration was in the air, their administrators didn't want to lose their "heft", so their ADs made choices that in the very near term preserve their grand dominion over athletic endeavors befitting their grand stature, but likely NOT good for their constituencies in the medium to long term. What they were willing to sell out on is really sad. They did nothing to arrest the trend of commoditizing the athlete and ignored all academic consequences (and likely, if any, minimization of carbon footprint as well). Sad, but likely just a footnote in the ongoing sage of scholarship student-athletes becoming hired athletes at institutions where there are coincidentally students as well. I guess we expected better from Calford, but apparently an unfounded expectation. Many of my friends learned surprising things about their ex-partners during divorce proceedings as well..... Calfurd's thoughts on the new pac 12  |
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Post by irimi on Oct 9, 2024 5:08:49 GMT -8
Then from your Miami-San Jose trip, subtract a San Jose-Denver/SLC/EUG/SEA/PHO/LAX trip, which is what Stanford would have flown as a member of the Pac-12, instead of going to Miami. If you can show me ONE instance where an airline has added a flight because of increased demand in a Pac-12 or ACC minor-sport competition, I'm all ears. Otherwise you guys are searching for an answer (or to blame an institution that profiles as "liberal") to a problem that doesn't exist, sort of virtue-signaling.And since I don't want to get dinged by the Glove for being too "political," I'm out of here. I am not virtue-signaling, at least I hope that I am not. I care about the environment. I want to limit the amount of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere. It is aggravating that more people are not taking steps to individually limit CO2. Everyone should be working together to do so. That is the way that you affect change. Person by person. Little by little. What is galling to me is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy galls me. How can the great students, staff, and people of Berkeley be ok with this? I look to Berkeley and Stanford to set the environmental example, to care even more about the environment than I do, your average Joe Shmoe. And here those sons of b#*tches are, pumping CO2 into the atmosphere like it is going out of style. Hypocrites! Every single student, staff, and homeowner in Berkeley and Stanford are hypocrites. Where are the protests? Where are the campus takeovers? You're a bunch of pathetic, spineless hypocrites all of you! Start talking about banning cows and then this? The environment must not be important. Global warming is a hoax! It is a hoax! I know that it is a hoax, because Cal and Stanford took a pay-cut to join the ACC. Sniveling and spineless slugs. I really want Oregon State to destroy Cal in 18 days. They not only sold Oregon State out, but they also sold everyone in the world out. I never expected more out of Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington. They sold their souls a long time ago. But Cal and Stanford! Two once-proud universities, used to stand for something, used to mean something, but those days must be gone, because here we are. Why should they care about the hurricanes in Florida? |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2024 6:06:20 GMT -8
Furd is half way to football irrelevance, unless they get off their academic high horse (tree?)
Thing is, they probably don't even really care.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 9, 2024 7:53:44 GMT -8
Furd is half way to football irrelevance, unless they get off their academic high horse (tree?) Thing is, they probably don't even really care. They have really only ever been relevant every 20 years or so and then go dormant. Shaw kept them out of cycle for a long time. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 9, 2024 8:02:32 GMT -8
Furd is half way to football irrelevance, unless they get off their academic high horse (tree?) Thing is, they probably don't even really care. They have really only ever been relevant every 20 years or so and then go dormant. Shaw kept them out of cycle for a long time. You have to give credit to Hardballs...he's the one that got them out of obscurity. Shaw maintained it for a while, but they really started to lose it his last 3-4 years. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2024 8:29:03 GMT -8
They have really only ever been relevant every 20 years or so and then go dormant. Shaw kept them out of cycle for a long time. You have to give credit to Hardballs...he's the one that got them out of obscurity. Shaw maintained it for a while, but they really started to lose it his last 3-4 years. Was just coming in to say this......he brought a B1G running mentality to Furd. Toby Gerhart, and a big road grader line were a nightmare! The portal really puts them at a disadvantage. A very small percentage of portal guys are eligible academically, for Furd. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 9, 2024 8:50:29 GMT -8
You have to give credit to Hardballs...he's the one that got them out of obscurity. Shaw maintained it for a while, but they really started to lose it his last 3-4 years. Was just coming in to say this......he brought a B1G running mentality to Furd. Toby Gerhart, and a big road grader line were a nightmare! The portal really puts them at a disadvantage. A very small percentage of portal guys are eligible academically, for Furd.True, but they also don't lose many, as most kids there are smart enough to know the value of a Stanford education. I expect they lose some 5th-year guys who already have their degrees. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2024 9:19:58 GMT -8
Was just coming in to say this......he brought a B1G running mentality to Furd. Toby Gerhart, and a big road grader line were a nightmare! The portal really puts them at a disadvantage. A very small percentage of portal guys are eligible academically, for Furd.True, but they also don't lose many, as most kids there are smart enough to know the value of a Stanford education. I expect they lose some 5th-year guys who already have their degrees. Yea, I get ur point.....although, their coach was on Canzano maybe? I forget now, one day, and he was complaining about what I was saying. So I think at a minimum it's a net negative for them, and if a guy is a "stud" who can go hit the portal, and get a big enough bag, it's gotta be intriguing, even for smarty pants Furd guys. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 9, 2024 11:19:17 GMT -8
They have really only ever been relevant every 20 years or so and then go dormant. Shaw kept them out of cycle for a long time. You have to give credit to Hardballs...he's the one that got them out of obscurity. Shaw maintained it for a while, but they really started to lose it his last 3-4 years. 100% Shaw ran with it for about a decade but never really adapted. Their system only works in the more modern game with freak athletes that offset the disadvantages. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 9, 2024 14:54:03 GMT -8
All I care is Ohio State makes it 2-8 and 3-7.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 10, 2024 12:51:28 GMT -8
I am not virtue-signaling, at least I hope that I am not. I care about the environment. I want to limit the amount of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere. It is aggravating that more people are not taking steps to individually limit CO2. Everyone should be working together to do so. That is the way that you affect change. Person by person. Little by little. What is galling to me is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy galls me. How can the great students, staff, and people of Berkeley be ok with this? I look to Berkeley and Stanford to set the environmental example, to care even more about the environment than I do, your average Joe Shmoe. And here those sons of b#*tches are, pumping CO2 into the atmosphere like it is going out of style. Hypocrites! Every single student, staff, and homeowner in Berkeley and Stanford are hypocrites. Where are the protests? Where are the campus takeovers? You're a bunch of pathetic, spineless hypocrites all of you! Start talking about banning cows and then this? The environment must not be important. Global warming is a hoax! It is a hoax! I know that it is a hoax, because Cal and Stanford took a pay-cut to join the ACC. Sniveling and spineless slugs. I really want Oregon State to destroy Cal in 18 days. They not only sold Oregon State out, but they also sold everyone in the world out. I never expected more out of Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington. They sold their souls a long time ago. But Cal and Stanford! Two once-proud universities, used to stand for something, used to mean something, but those days must be gone, because here we are. Why should they care about the hurricanes in Florida? Fun fact. There is a negative correlation between temperature and hurricanes hitting the United States. Maybe they do? |
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Post by osbrawler on Oct 17, 2024 7:04:47 GMT -8
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