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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 30, 2024 12:15:03 GMT -8
Yeah I think if Pac-12 / Texas State was a thing it would have already happened by now.
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Post by 93beav on Sept 30, 2024 12:26:08 GMT -8
Yeah I think if Pac-12 / Texas State was a thing it would have already happened by now. Unless it's part of something else or they've turned to basketball first. Pretty quiet out there. Something must be going on in the background.
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Post by irimi on Sept 30, 2024 13:03:56 GMT -8
There are high school stadiums better than Reser. If that’s your measuring stick. And I like the potential. Don’t look at it now; envision what it could be. Show me one. Anywhere. Maybe I should be more clear. The difference between us and say tOSU or even OkSU is greater than the difference between us and Sac State.
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Post by darthbeavs on Sept 30, 2024 13:27:03 GMT -8
Maybe I should be more clear. The difference between us and say tOSU or even OkSU is greater than the difference between us and Sac State. I think that's ridiculous; there is no way Oregon State is closer to an FCS team than it is to Oklahoma St. I think saying it's true is absurd. And no! I don't think the Pac 12 should promote an FCS team to the Pac 12. That's even more absurd.
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Post by irimi on Sept 30, 2024 14:57:36 GMT -8
Maybe I should be more clear. The difference between us and say tOSU or even OkSU is greater than the difference between us and Sac State. I think that's ridiculous; there is no way Oregon State is closer to an FCS team than it is to Oklahoma St. I think saying it's true is absurd. And no! I don't think the Pac 12 should promote an FCS team to the Pac 12. That's even more absurd. I guess I didn't make it more clear. I was referring to the stadium sizes. Reser 35,500 Sac St 21,000 A difference of 14,500 Reser 35,500 OK St. 53,800 A difference of 18,300 Like it or not, we're not in a great position to say that a team's stadium size ought to be the reason to dismiss the university, particularly if said school has plans to rebuild and increase the size of that stadium. Sure, I would like to have a couple well respected schools to join, and we probably will get them. But I don't think it's such a bad idea to grab a couple more California schools. California has an abundance of universities, good markets, and lots of money. If Sac State and Davis throw some money at this, they could quickly rise up to the level of play that we want. It wasn't that long ago that they beat us.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 30, 2024 15:06:01 GMT -8
I think that's ridiculous; there is no way Oregon State is closer to an FCS team than it is to Oklahoma St. I think saying it's true is absurd. And no! I don't think the Pac 12 should promote an FCS team to the Pac 12. That's even more absurd. I guess I didn't make it more clear. I was referring to the stadium sizes. Reser 35,500 Sac St 21,000 A difference of 14,500 Reser 35,500 OK St. 53,800 A difference of 18,300 Like it or not, we're not in a great position to say that a team's stadium size ought to be the reason to dismiss the university, particularly if said school has plans to rebuild and increase the size of that stadium. Sure, I would like to have a couple well respected schools to join, and we probably will get them. But I don't think it's such a bad idea to grab a couple more California schools. California has an abundance of universities, good markets, and lots of money. If Sac State and Davis throw some money at this, they could quickly rise up to the level of play that we want. It wasn't that long ago that they beat us. Why would we want to promote two more teams from one of our top recruiting areas to FBS, and eliminate our FBS over FCS advantage?
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 30, 2024 15:12:31 GMT -8
I guess I didn't make it more clear. I was referring to the stadium sizes. Reser 35,500 Sac St 21,000 A difference of 14,500 Reser 35,500 OK St. 53,800 A difference of 18,300 Like it or not, we're not in a great position to say that a team's stadium size ought to be the reason to dismiss the university, particularly if said school has plans to rebuild and increase the size of that stadium. Sure, I would like to have a couple well respected schools to join, and we probably will get them. But I don't think it's such a bad idea to grab a couple more California schools. California has an abundance of universities, good markets, and lots of money. If Sac State and Davis throw some money at this, they could quickly rise up to the level of play that we want. It wasn't that long ago that they beat us. Why would we want to promote two more teams from one of our top recruiting areas to FBS, and eliminate our FBS over FCS advantage? $$$
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 30, 2024 17:30:35 GMT -8
35Mil in 24 hours?
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 30, 2024 18:41:21 GMT -8
They cold called alumni under the guise of climate change.
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Post by irimi on Oct 1, 2024 6:10:18 GMT -8
I guess I didn't make it more clear. I was referring to the stadium sizes. Reser 35,500 Sac St 21,000 A difference of 14,500 Reser 35,500 OK St. 53,800 A difference of 18,300 Like it or not, we're not in a great position to say that a team's stadium size ought to be the reason to dismiss the university, particularly if said school has plans to rebuild and increase the size of that stadium. Sure, I would like to have a couple well respected schools to join, and we probably will get them. But I don't think it's such a bad idea to grab a couple more California schools. California has an abundance of universities, good markets, and lots of money. If Sac State and Davis throw some money at this, they could quickly rise up to the level of play that we want. It wasn't that long ago that they beat us. Why would we want to promote two more teams from one of our top recruiting areas to FBS, and eliminate our FBS over FCS advantage? I suppose that's a fair point, if you are afraid of competition.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 1, 2024 8:53:00 GMT -8
Why would we want to promote two more teams from one of our top recruiting areas to FBS, and eliminate our FBS over FCS advantage? I suppose that's a fair point, if you are afraid of competition. You did notice that the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC all expanded outside of their traditional football recruiting areas, right? I don't think they were afraid of competition. When you have eight Starbuck's in a finite geographical area, it makes no sense to add two more. Add them in areas outside of your traditional footprint. Granted, out situation is somewhat different, but Memphis makes much more sense than Davis or Sac State, if for no other reason it already has a viable FBS football program.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 1, 2024 11:00:01 GMT -8
I suppose that's a fair point, if you are afraid of competition. You did notice that the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC all expanded outside of their traditional football recruiting areas, right? I don't think they were afraid of competition. When you have eight Starbuck's in a finite geographical area, it makes no sense to add two more. Add them in areas outside of your traditional footprint. Granted, out situation is somewhat different, but Memphis makes much more sense than Davis or Sac State, if for no other reason it already has a viable FBS football program. Having any schools back east, or 6 or 7 schools back east makes a lot more sense than adding a Davis or Sac State when it comes to expanding your footprint AND TV money. At any rate, if we end up with only 8-10 football schools, come the next realignment period, we will be one of the smallest conferences and our best teams are likely to get poached by a league with a 30 million + TV contract. If OSU isn't one of the teams to get poached, there's a fair chance we're doing this all over again in 5-8 years. When the Pac was at 12 schools, 2 left and 8 of the 10 remaining schools got the jitters and bolted. I look for it to happen again if we don't get to at least a dozen football schools in the conference.
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Post by johnnychimpo on Oct 1, 2024 11:13:58 GMT -8
Texas State accepts MWC invite. Doesn't impact us, we are getting Memphis or Tulane, or maybe both. You couldn't be more wrong about today.
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Post by seastape on Oct 1, 2024 11:17:40 GMT -8
You did notice that the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC all expanded outside of their traditional football recruiting areas, right? I don't think they were afraid of competition. When you have eight Starbuck's in a finite geographical area, it makes no sense to add two more. Add them in areas outside of your traditional footprint. Granted, out situation is somewhat different, but Memphis makes much more sense than Davis or Sac State, if for no other reason it already has a viable FBS football program. Having any schools back east, or 6 or 7 schools back east makes a lot more sense than adding a Davis or Sac State when it comes to expanding your footprint AND TV money. At any rate, if we end up with only 8-10 football schools, come the next realignment period, we will be one of the smallest conferences and our best teams are likely to get poached by a league with a 30 million + TV contract. If OSU isn't one of the teams to get poached, there's a fair chance we're doing this all over again in 5-8 years. When the Pac was at 12 schools, 2 left and 8 of the 10 remaining schools got the jitters and bolted. I look for it to happen again if we don't get to at least a dozen football schools in the conference. I'm not sold that the next round of realignment will result in more G5 schools going to the P4. I think it far more likely that the P4 relegates more schools to the G5.
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Post by 93beav on Oct 1, 2024 12:04:37 GMT -8
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