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Post by ftd on Sept 20, 2024 15:48:28 GMT -8
Well if its a rumor on twitter....
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Post by cake on Sept 20, 2024 15:50:18 GMT -8
Some people just refuse to accept this. Stanford and Cal (or any other of the 10 departing traitors) are not coming back in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. Nor does the Big 12 have any interest in us and Wazzu, in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. I think Big-12 had interest in just us... it was WSU they didn't want, and I think we are tied at the hip... Ergo they don't have interest in the pair. There is no universe Stanford and Cal are coming back and the ACC collapse looks dimmer by the day, unless something goes totally sideways with this revenue share renegotiation. That was a rumor I heard, us and SDSU is what they wanted. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 20, 2024 15:53:02 GMT -8
speaking of 'furd....weird seeing them playing at Syracuse
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 20, 2024 16:17:47 GMT -8
I think Big-12 had interest in just us... it was WSU they didn't want, and I think we are tied at the hip... Ergo they don't have interest in the pair. There is no universe Stanford and Cal are coming back and the ACC collapse looks dimmer by the day, unless something goes totally sideways with this revenue share renegotiation. That was a rumor I heard, us and SDSU is what they wanted. Yeah, Big-12 was doing a push to shore up BBall at the same time, they wanted SDSU and UConn for BBall and were interested in OSU for football. Uconn wouldn't come in with football and SDSU and OSU would be the football pair, but Big-12 interest was really for their Bball. Or so went the rumor. Who knows. So the story goes, as they say. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 20, 2024 16:22:54 GMT -8
So why UTSA? Why not Texas State? Texas state averaged a little over 22k attendance in a 27k seat stadium last year. UTSA averaged a little under 29k in a 64K seat stadium last year. Texas state has a higher student count, but between the additional things UTSA has going on (mentioned above bt cake) and San Antonio's name recommendation, I could see how UTSA gets the edge. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 20, 2024 16:23:43 GMT -8
Some people just refuse to accept this. Stanford and Cal (or any other of the 10 departing traitors) are not coming back in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. Nor does the Big 12 have any interest in us and Wazzu, in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. I think Big-12 had interest in just us... it was WSU they didn't want, and I think we are tied at the hip... Ergo they don't have interest in the pair. There is no universe Stanford and Cal are coming back and the ACC collapse looks dimmer by the day, unless something goes totally sideways with this revenue share renegotiation. Something is going totally sideways with the revenue share. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 20, 2024 16:30:00 GMT -8
As a fan, I don't want the PAC in the central an eastern time zones. The only positive I take is it's unlikely that basketball games will be canceled in texas, Tennessee, and Florida because of white-out conditions
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 20, 2024 16:51:59 GMT -8
Unlv, Calford, and maybe Air Force to go with CSU? Not a fan of the far away teams being included. Barnes said Cal and Stanford are not part of any discussions, ie he has been told neither is ever coming back. They are gone. good! I didn’t want those f%#*ers anyway! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 20, 2024 16:56:02 GMT -8
Barnes said Cal and Stanford are not part of any discussions, ie he has been told neither is ever coming back. They are gone. Some people just refuse to accept this. Stanford and Cal (or any other of the 10 departing traitors) are not coming back in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. Nor does the Big 12 have any interest in us and Wazzu, in the foreseeable future. Or even in the unforeseeable future, for that matter. sorry, I refuse to accept this. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 20, 2024 17:00:23 GMT -8
Opinions can differ. While I like the idea of a strong western conference, as it stands the Pac 6 has one school with a 7 digit metro population. The remaining strong schools in a metro area that large, with the exception of UNLV, are already in 3 of the P4 conferences.
I'd like to see OSU in a competitive conference with the potential for a decent media rights deal.
The addition of the 4 teams I hear mentioned most often would change the conference 7 digit metro population presence from 1 of 6, to 5 of 10. That could expand recruiting territory, TV presence, sports writer coverage, and overall familiarity with OSU's sports programs beyond what it would be if we could piece together a larger conference staying west.
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Post by cake on Sept 20, 2024 17:03:22 GMT -8
Opinions can differ. While I like the idea of a strong western conference, as it stands the Pac 6 has one school with a 7 digit metro population. The remaining strong schools in a metro area that large, with the exception of UNLV, are already in 3 of the P4 conferences. I'd like to see OSU in a competitive conference with the potential for a decent media rights deal. The addition of the 4 teams I hear mentioned most often would change the conference 7 digit metro population presence from 1 of 6, to 5 of 10. That could expand recruiting territory, TV presence, sports writer coverage, and overall familiarity with OSU's sports programs beyond what it would be if we could piece together a larger conference staying west. Corvallis is in the Portland CSA, so that's what I count. The only thing that matters. About 4 million in a 100 mile radius. I think we're a lock for the new Pac 12. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 20, 2024 17:22:54 GMT -8
Opinions can differ. While I like the idea of a strong western conference, as it stands the Pac 6 has one school with a 7 digit metro population. The remaining strong schools in a metro area that large, with the exception of UNLV, are already in 3 of the P4 conferences. I'd like to see OSU in a competitive conference with the potential for a decent media rights deal. The addition of the 4 teams I hear mentioned most often would change the conference 7 digit metro population presence from 1 of 6, to 5 of 10. That could expand recruiting territory, TV presence, sports writer coverage, and overall familiarity with OSU's sports programs beyond what it would be if we could piece together a larger conference staying west. Corvallis is in the Portland CSA, so that's what I count. The only thing that matters. About 4 million in a 100 mile radius. I think we're a lock for the new Pac 12. Realistically, which team has the bigger following in the Portland CSA, OSU or uo? I don't know, but I have my suspicions it's the latter. I'm talking metros because that's where teams can largely count on a big chunk of their support. Even counting OSU in the Portland CSA only gets the league to 2 of 6 being in a larger CSA. When you get to using CSA as the driving metric, one could in theory add 1 small college from each of Seattle, LA San Francisco, Denver, throw in UNLV and a small school from Salt lake and voila, in theory you have TV markets in the west covered.... I don't think it works that way when trying to build a strong conference with a following and a bigger media contract. |
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Post by cake on Sept 20, 2024 17:33:44 GMT -8
Corvallis is in the Portland CSA, so that's what I count. The only thing that matters. About 4 million in a 100 mile radius. I think we're a lock for the new Pac 12. Realistically, which team has the bigger following in the Portland CSA, OSU or uo? I don't know, but I have my suspicions it's the latter. I'm talking metros because that's where teams can largely count on a big chunk of their support. Even counting OSU in the Portland CSA only gets the league to 2 of 6 being in a larger CSA. When you get to using CSA as the driving metric, one could in theory add 1 small college from each of Seattle, LA San Francisco, Denver, throw in UNLV and a small school from Salt lake and voila, in theory you have TV markets in the west covered.... I don't think it works that way when trying to build a strong conference with a following and a bigger media contract. No of course it isn't us. But we do have more graduates in Portland than UC Fallback. Plus, my post was mostly a joke. But we do have some support in Portland. Wazzu in Seattle. Hopefully, the newcomers bring some fans from their cities and regions. And, whomever we bring in next addition bring new eyes to what we've got. I think we'll be okay. |
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Post by seastape on Sept 20, 2024 17:36:49 GMT -8
Twitter rumor is that the Pac is negotiating with the MWC - the MWC reduces the exit fees and in return the Pac doesn't take UNLV, etc.. for the foreseeable future.
And the Pac uses the money saved to pay exit fees for Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, and USF.
The new Pac-12 would be ten teams: OSU, WSU, BSU, FSU, SDSU, CSU, UTSA, Tulane, Memphis, USF.
I really want a western conference, going no further than the Mountain time zone. Going all the way to Tennessee and Florida sounds like a travel cost killer. On the other hand, such a conference could possibly rival the Big 12 in football and may create some buzz. I don't see any teams in G5 getting elevated to a P4 conference anytime in the near future. In fact, I think it far more likely that the P4 will start to cull out the less media-friendly teams, which is essentially what happened to us and WSU. So the proposal seems like a "best of the rest" type of a thing which could be good, I guess. |
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Sept 20, 2024 19:55:49 GMT -8
Opinions can differ. While I like the idea of a strong western conference, as it stands the Pac 6 has one school with a 7 digit metro population. The remaining strong schools in a metro area that large, with the exception of UNLV, are already in 3 of the P4 conferences. I'd like to see OSU in a competitive conference with the potential for a decent media rights deal. The addition of the 4 teams I hear mentioned most often would change the conference 7 digit metro population presence from 1 of 6, to 5 of 10. That could expand recruiting territory, TV presence, sports writer coverage, and overall familiarity with OSU's sports programs beyond what it would be if we could piece together a larger conference staying west. Corvallis is in the Portland CSA, so that's what I count. The only thing that matters. About 4 million in a 100 mile radius. I think we're a lock for the new Pac 12.
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