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Post by oldbeav on Jun 7, 2024 9:42:59 GMT -8
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Post by beavs123 on Jun 7, 2024 10:52:05 GMT -8
Not to be a Debbie Downer but it's actually not fun when he runs all over the field into his own players to try to make plays on the ball.
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 7, 2024 11:05:21 GMT -8
Not to be a Debbie Downer but it's actually not fun when he runs all over the field into his own players to try to make plays on the ball. Part of the issue with guy/pod casts like these... most have never seen Travis play in person... not once let alone multiple times. So, basically all they see is highlight reels. Offensively a "monster" in this his final season of college ball. But, his Achilles heel is the defensive part of his game. He can make the spectacular, but can make the routine appear far less than that. Until he cleans up his overall defense, it is his bat that will lead him forward. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jun 7, 2024 11:11:48 GMT -8
Not to be a Debbie Downer but it's actually not fun when he runs all over the field into his own players to try to make plays on the ball. First rule of defense, play ball first. ON that particular play he was shifted over a shade to third base side of second. Hainline had a better approach line for setting up the throw, but it was a tweener ball based on their pre pitch positioning and with Bazz's speed, once he attacked the ball, see first rule above, it was all or nothing. The near collision probably impacted the timing. That said, Bass did not have a good approach line for the to the ball for the throw. I recall fly balls to left where Cayden Grenier opened hips, sprinted backward beyond middle depth LF, set up behind ball and caught it coming in. So nothing new, the difference is with Bazz'a speed his range if a tad bigger which allows the coaches to position other players accordingly. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 7, 2024 12:15:12 GMT -8
Not to be a Debbie Downer but it's actually not fun when he runs all over the field into his own players to try to make plays on the ball. First rule of defense, play ball first. ON that particular play he was shifted over a shade to third base side of second. Hainline had a better approach line for setting up the throw, but it was a tweener ball based on their pre pitch positioning and with Bazz's speed, once he attacked the ball, see first rule above, it was all or nothing. The near collision probably impacted the timing. That said, Bass did not have a good approach line for the to the ball for the throw. I recall fly balls to left where Cayden Grenier opened hips, sprinted backward beyond middle depth LF, set up behind ball and caught it coming in. So nothing new, the difference is with Bazz'a speed his range if a tad bigger which allows the coaches to position other players accordingly. But, he has to know where Hainline is on that play and that Hainline had a much better angle to make the play. That looked like an "overplay" in co-ed softball where a dude sprints over in front of one of the female players to catch the ball. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 7, 2024 12:28:05 GMT -8
If Bazzana climbs up the ladder to AAA and MLB if he doesn't change his ways of taking balls better handled by others somebody will put him in his place.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 7, 2024 12:37:58 GMT -8
If Bazzana climbs up the ladder to AAA and MLB if he doesn't change his ways of taking balls better handled by others somebody will put him in his place. I've seen him do this once or twice in the three years he played here, and Monday's play can be 100% attributable to his being extra fired up after making an out in the top of the 8th. Truth be told, every coach will take an aggressive player over a passive one. Aggressiveness can be reigned in, but it's hard to turn a passive player into an aggressive one. I talked at length with an A's scout at Friday's game, he was standing with Rob Nelson AKA Mr. Big League Chew. The scout, who I presume knew what he was talking about, said Bazz is a much better defensive player than he gets credit for by the average fan and he was sick the A's (who pick 4th) won't have a shot at him. He specifically pointed to the play where he fielded a poor throw from May and turned it into an inning-ending 1-4-3 DP with an amazing relay. He added that people are misled by his Manny Trillo/Robinson Can style of throwing the ball and equate that with lazy or poor fielding, which it isn't. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Jun 7, 2024 12:46:04 GMT -8
I'm also talking about flyballs much more easily handled by outfielders where he decides its his.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 7, 2024 13:18:26 GMT -8
I'm also talking about flyballs much more easily handled by outfielders where he decides its his. Again, an easy fixable "problem." Coaches want someone who aggressively goes after the ball, not someone who stands and watches it. Bazz made an outstanding play on a blooper to short right either Saturday or Monday, running full speed and catching a ball right near the foul line that Kasper couldn't reach. Sarwin did that a lot on fly balls to left field. Don't think he had that problem in the pros, where the outfielders are much, much better than they are in college. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 7, 2024 14:15:48 GMT -8
If Bazzana climbs up the ladder to AAA and MLB if he doesn't change his ways of taking balls better handled by others somebody will put him in his place. I've seen him do this once or twice in the three years he played here, and Monday's play can be 100% attributable to his being extra fired up after making an out in the top of the 8th. Truth be told, every coach will take an aggressive player over a passive one. Aggressiveness can be reigned in, but it's hard to turn a passive player into an aggressive one. I talked at length with an A's scout at Friday's game, he was standing with Rob Nelson AKA Mr. Big League Chew. The scout, who I presume knew what he was talking about, said Bazz is a much better defensive player than he gets credit for by the average fan and he was sick the A's (who pick 4th) won't have a shot at him. He specifically pointed to the play where he fielded a poor throw from May and turned it into an inning-ending 1-4-3 DP with an amazing relay. He added that people are misled by his Manny Trillo/Robinson Can style of throwing the ball and equate that with lazy or poor fielding, which it isn't. Scouts have have their opinions on strengths and weaknesses. But, none at our recent games make the final say. I can say the (3) I've visit with regularly over the last several seasons... two now former... have a more level assessment of his defense. He's basically very mechanical at times and overthinks vs playing more loose/free. But, the more concerning are the negative emotional outbursts excused as competitiveness. They are a relatively new development and happen with regularity. And, if he indeed takes ABs to the field it's even worse. Whether pissed at himself or a call it's not a good look or what pro personnel like to see. Especially in pressure situations. As one stated in the Regional, his one little spat on a bad strike call will get him tossed in a Super! Meaning suspended for the next game... "He needs to show more leadership and less ego." |
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Post by 56chevy on Jun 7, 2024 14:30:47 GMT -8
This guy named John McEnroe had some negative emotional outbursts....How'd he do?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 7, 2024 14:57:36 GMT -8
I've seen him do this once or twice in the three years he played here, and Monday's play can be 100% attributable to his being extra fired up after making an out in the top of the 8th. Truth be told, every coach will take an aggressive player over a passive one. Aggressiveness can be reigned in, but it's hard to turn a passive player into an aggressive one. I talked at length with an A's scout at Friday's game, he was standing with Rob Nelson AKA Mr. Big League Chew. The scout, who I presume knew what he was talking about, said Bazz is a much better defensive player than he gets credit for by the average fan and he was sick the A's (who pick 4th) won't have a shot at him. He specifically pointed to the play where he fielded a poor throw from May and turned it into an inning-ending 1-4-3 DP with an amazing relay. He added that people are misled by his Manny Trillo/Robinson Can style of throwing the ball and equate that with lazy or poor fielding, which it isn't. Scouts have have their opinions on strengths and weaknesses. But, none at our recent games make the final say. I can say the (3) I've visit with regularly over the last several seasons... two now former... have a more level assessment of his defense. He's basically very mechanical at times and overthinks vs playing more loose/free. But, the more concerning are the negative emotional outbursts excused as competitiveness. They are a relatively new development and happen with regularity. And, if he indeed takes ABs to the field it's even worse. Whether pissed at himself or a call it's not a good look or what pro personnel like to see. Especially in pressure situations. As one stated in the Regional, his one little spat on a bad strike call will get him tossed in a Super! Meaning suspended for the next game... "He needs to show more leadership and less ego." Probably a reasonable assessment. Players at 20 or 21 have seldom reached their final level of maturity. Scouts' opinions differ. That's why some teams draft better than others. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 7, 2024 15:04:24 GMT -8
This guy named John McEnroe had some negative emotional outbursts....How'd he do? This guy named Johnny Manziel had some negative emotional outbursts. This other guy Ryan Leaf did, too. And this Ray Rice guy......... How did they do? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 7, 2024 15:08:04 GMT -8
This guy named John McEnroe had some negative emotional outbursts....How'd he do? This guy named Johnny Manziel had some negative emotional outbursts. This other guy Ryan Leaf did, too. And this Ray Rice guy......... How did they do? Aaron Hernandez? |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jun 7, 2024 15:28:04 GMT -8
First rule of defense, play ball first. ON that particular play he was shifted over a shade to third base side of second. Hainline had a better approach line for setting up the throw, but it was a tweener ball based on their pre pitch positioning and with Bazz's speed, once he attacked the ball, see first rule above, it was all or nothing. The near collision probably impacted the timing. That said, Bass did not have a good approach line for the to the ball for the throw. I recall fly balls to left where Cayden Grenier opened hips, sprinted backward beyond middle depth LF, set up behind ball and caught it coming in. So nothing new, the difference is with Bazz'a speed his range if a tad bigger which allows the coaches to position other players accordingly. But, he has to know where Hainline is on that play and that Hainline had a much better angle to make the play. That looked like an "overplay" in co-ed softball where a dude sprints over in front of one of the female players to catch the ball. Looked bad I agree, but doesn't mean it was the wrong reaction and that's what it was, a reaction. . You do not want a hesitant defender. As soon as that ball left the bat it was instant react and attack. That's what you want. When you have guys jammed together on these shifts and you get a tweener ball, just like in doubles ping pong, either someone takes it without hesitation or you risk both players watching the ball pass between them. |
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