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Post by rgeorge on Jun 6, 2024 16:19:01 GMT -8
I'll just go on the current teams and their schedules.
No idea how each roster will handle the pressure but UK has simply seen more games of better competition... like 19-9 vs our 6-4 (not sure if those are exact, but close?!) vs tourney teams. AND they are at home in their own beds and everyday habits. That's two huge plusses.
I know this, if the scenarios were reversed we'd all say OSU should win this Super... hands down. That's pretty much what the consensus was in '22 vs a newbie Auburn team. In a "sick" way that SR what gives me some confidence in this matchup!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 6, 2024 17:14:36 GMT -8
I also like that Oregon State is 2-1 all-time against teams named the Wildcats in the Super Regional. And those Wildcats (Kansas State) are in their first Super Regional in 11 years and second Super Regional ever. Oregon State has always played in Omaha in years that Kansas State has played in a Super Regional. 2013 and 2024 are Kansas State's best seasons in something like the last 90 years. I also still like that Oregon State is 2-1 in the postseason all-time against two teams, Kansas State and Virginia. And the two play in Charlottesville. Ridiculous! What are the chances? Wilky, Don't forget our "good buddies" from North Carolina.😀(I love beating those guys when it matters.) We won the CWS in 2006, 2007, & 2018 when they made Omaha, in 2013 we both made it but lost & UCLA defeated Miss. St. For good luck we need NC to win their SR.😀 The fun part is that Oregon State has only beat North Carolina, when it matters most: four wins in the Championship Series in 2006 and 2007 and an elimination game in 2018. Other teams still alive: Oregon State is 7-1 all-time against Georgia. That includes the 5-3 win in the first elimination game in Omaha in 2006; a sweep of Georgia in Athens in 2007, which helped Oregon State to punch its ticket to the Tournament; and the 8-4 win over Georgia in the 2011 Corvallis Regional Championship Game. Oregon State is 5-4 all-time against Texas A&M. Oregon State split with Texas A&M in 2007 in College Station, Oregon State beat Texas A&M twice in the 2009 Fort Worth Regional before bowing out to TCU 5-4, and Oregon State beat Texas A&M 6-1 in the Corvallis Regional Championship Game in 2013. The next game was Kansas State in the 2013 Corvallis Super Regional. Oregon State has played Oregon 367 times but never in the postseason, not even in one of the conference tournaments. (At one point, there was a Pac-10 North Tournament, and, before that, there was a Pac-8 Tournament.) Oregon State is 3-1 at neutral sites against Oregon, 2-1 at PGE Park and 1-0 at Volcanoes Stadium. Clemson is 3-2 all-time against Oregon, but all of the games were more than 20 years ago. Florida is 1-0 all-time against Oregon State with the only game being one game at the 2010 Gainesville Regional, a 10-2 Florida win. On the other side of the bracket: Oregon State is 3-2 all-time against Tennessee with a stupid split in Knoxville in 2009 (which is probably why Oregon State stopped playing SEC teams in February) and Oregon State winning two-of-three in Corvallis in 2010. Oregon State is 4-1 all-time against Evansville. There was a split in 1992, but, in the important series, Oregon State swept Evansville at Goss in 2007 to help make it to the Tournament. Oregon State is 1-1 all-time against Connecticut. Oregon State beat Connecticut 2-0 in Corpus Christi in 2011, but Connecticut beat Oregon State 6-3 in 2012. Oregon State is 4-1 all-time against West Virginia. Oregon State won 9-6 in 2000. Oregon State beat West Virginia 11-0 in 2012, the day before they beat Connecticut. Oregon State then took two-of-three against West Virginia in 2019 at Goss. |
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Post by richard44 on Jun 6, 2024 17:18:34 GMT -8
Honestly I don’t worry much about our SOS and how they have performed against better competition compared to us. We are loaded with talent, and for the most part, we did very well in our biggest moments this year (Arlington, UO series, UA series, Regional). What worries me the most is our away record. For some reason this team performed drastically better at home vs. away, and honestly that cost us a top 8 seed. Why is that? I have no idea. The only thing I can point to is that when we hit our mid season lulls, we were hit hard by injuries (May, McDowell, Kasper, Caraway). We now have those guys at full strength. When we have had all of them, I don’t believe we have lost a series all year, home or away.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 6, 2024 17:27:41 GMT -8
I'll just go on the current teams and their schedules. No idea how each roster will handle the pressure but UK has simply seen more games of better competition... like 19-9 vs our 6-4 (not sure if those are exact, but close?!) vs tourney teams. AND they are at home in their own beds and everyday habits. That's two huge plusses. I know this, if the scenarios were reversed we'd all say OSU should win this Super... hands down. That's pretty much what the consensus was in '22 vs a newbie Auburn team. In a "sick" way that SR what gives me some confidence in this matchup! Auburn bringing Tim Hudson with them to Corvallis worried the hell out of me. Having Oregon State going up against a very talented Auburn with a Hall of Famer coaching the pitchers. Yuck! That had trap written all over it. Oregon State probably beats Auburn in a Regional or at Omaha, but you give Hudson a whole week to set up and prepare for three games? We were lucky to do as well as we did. I was reading my own posts questioning the lineups that Mitchy Slick threw together for the Corvallis Super Regional again the other day. Specifically, why did Boyd and Meckler flip spots? That still confuses me. To get completely disemboweled by Hudson in 2022 sucked. I have looked at Kentucky's head coaching staff this year. There are a couple Mississippi State guys. But there are no Hall of Famers lurking in the shadows that I could find. I feel better than I did against Auburn |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 6, 2024 17:48:06 GMT -8
Honestly I don’t worry much about our SOS and how they have performed against better competition compared to us. We are loaded with talent, and for the most part, we did very well in our biggest moments this year (Arlington, UO series, UA series, Regional). What worries me the most is our away record. For some reason this team performed drastically better at home vs. away, and honestly that cost us a top 8 seed. Why is that? I have no idea. The only thing I can point to is that when we hit our mid season lulls, we were hit hard by injuries (May, McDowell, Kasper, Caraway). We now have those guys at full strength. When we have had all of them, I don’t believe we have lost a series all year, home or away. Micah McDowell went down in the last Washington game. He came back not quite 100% for two of the Cal games but then was out again until the Wazzu series to start May. In the 35 games that McDowell has been full-strength, Oregon State is 30-5. 15-9 in the other 24 games. It is kind like the 26 games that Oregon State played without Nick Madrigal in 2018. The team held together better in 2018 without Madrigal, though. 20-6 without Madrigal. 29-5-1 with Madrigal in the first 35 games with him. If 2024 Oregon State can avoid injuries, 2024 Oregon State can potentially be better than 2018 Oregon State down the stretch, just need to get past Kentucky. |
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Post by ag87 on Jun 7, 2024 0:18:05 GMT -8
Wilky, Don't forget our "good buddies" from North Carolina.😀(I love beating those guys when it matters.) We won the CWS in 2006, 2007, & 2018 when they made Omaha, in 2013 we both made it but lost & UCLA defeated Miss. St. For good luck we need NC to win their SR.😀 The fun part is that Oregon State has only beat North Carolina, when it matters most: four wins in the Championship Series in 2006 and 2007 and an elimination game in 2018. Other teams still alive: Oregon State is 7-1 all-time against Georgia. That includes the 5-3 win in the first elimination game in Omaha in 2006; a sweep of Georgia in Athens in 2007, which helped Oregon State to punch its ticket to the Tournament; and the 8-4 win over Georgia in the 2011 Corvallis Regional Championship Game. Oregon State is 5-4 all-time against Texas A&M. Oregon State split with Texas A&M in 2007 in College Station, Oregon State beat Texas A&M twice in the 2009 Fort Worth Regional before bowing out to TCU 5-4, and Oregon State beat Texas A&M 6-1 in the Corvallis Regional Championship Game in 2013. The next game was Kansas State in the 2013 Corvallis Super Regional. Oregon State has played Oregon 367 times but never in the postseason, not even in one of the conference tournaments. (At one point, there was a Pac-10 North Tournament, and, before that, there was a Pac-8 Tournament.) Oregon State is 3-1 at neutral sites against Oregon, 2-1 at PGE Park and 1-0 at Volcanoes Stadium. Clemson is 3-2 all-time against Oregon, but all of the games were more than 20 years ago.  Florida is 1-0 all-time against Oregon State with the only game being one game at the 2010 Gainesville Regional, a 10-2 Florida win. On the other side of the bracket: Oregon State is 3-2 all-time against Tennessee with a stupid split in Knoxville in 2009 (which is probably why Oregon State stopped playing SEC teams in February) and Oregon State winning two-of-three in Corvallis in 2010. Oregon State is 4-1 all-time against Evansville. There was a split in 1992, but, in the important series, Oregon State swept Evansville at Goss in 2007 to help make it to the Tournament. Oregon State is 1-1 all-time against Connecticut. Oregon State beat Connecticut 2-0 in Corpus Christi in 2011, but Connecticut beat Oregon State 6-3 in 2012. Oregon State is 4-1 all-time against West Virginia. Oregon State won 9-6 in 2000. Oregon State beat West Virginia 11-0 in 2012, the day before they beat Connecticut. Oregon State then took two-of-three against West Virginia in 2019 at Goss. If Evansville doesn't show up in their shooting shirts, we will be ok. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 7, 2024 4:20:40 GMT -8
I'll just go on the current teams and their schedules. No idea how each roster will handle the pressure but UK has simply seen more games of better competition... like 19-9 vs our 6-4 (not sure if those are exact, but close?!) vs tourney teams. AND they are at home in their own beds and everyday habits. That's two huge plusses. I know this, if the scenarios were reversed we'd all say OSU should win this Super... hands down. That's pretty much what the consensus was in '22 vs a newbie Auburn team. In a "sick" way that SR what gives me some confidence in this matchup! Auburn bringing Tim Hudson with them to Corvallis worried the hell out of me. Having Oregon State going up against a very talented Auburn with a Hall of Famer coaching the pitchers. Yuck! That had trap written all over it. Oregon State probably beats Auburn in a Regional or at Omaha, but you give Hudson a whole week to set up and prepare for three games? We were lucky to do as well as we did. I was reading my own posts questioning the lineups that Mitchy Slick threw together for the Corvallis Super Regional again the other day. Specifically, why did Boyd and Meckler flip spots? That still confuses me. To get completely disemboweled by Hudson in 2022 sucked. I have looked at Kentucky's head coaching staff this year. There are a couple Mississippi State guys. But there are no Hall of Famers lurking in the shadows that I could find. I feel better than I did against Auburn Tim Hudson is not a Hall of Famer. At some point, maybe, but not currently. And, don’t tell me you meant the Braves Hall of Fame, because I know you didn’t mean that. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 7, 2024 13:48:37 GMT -8
Auburn bringing Tim Hudson with them to Corvallis worried the hell out of me. Having Oregon State going up against a very talented Auburn with a Hall of Famer coaching the pitchers. Yuck! That had trap written all over it. Oregon State probably beats Auburn in a Regional or at Omaha, but you give Hudson a whole week to set up and prepare for three games? We were lucky to do as well as we did. I was reading my own posts questioning the lineups that Mitchy Slick threw together for the Corvallis Super Regional again the other day. Specifically, why did Boyd and Meckler flip spots? That still confuses me. To get completely disemboweled by Hudson in 2022 sucked. I have looked at Kentucky's head coaching staff this year. There are a couple Mississippi State guys. But there are no Hall of Famers lurking in the shadows that I could find. I feel better than I did against Auburn Tim Hudson is not a Hall of Famer. At some point, maybe, but not currently. And, don’t tell me you meant the Braves Hall of Fame, because I know you didn’t mean that. You are right. I meant Alabama Hall of Fame. |
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Post by ftd on Jun 7, 2024 13:50:22 GMT -8
To me this series will come down to our fielding. We are good at the plate and pitching is on an upswing. Kentucky plays small ball. If we can handle that we will be in Omaha. That's a big IF though as fielding has been spotty all year. Let's hope we were just saving up good fielding for the post season!!
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 7, 2024 14:48:00 GMT -8
To me this series will come down to our fielding. We are good at the plate and pitching is on an upswing. Kentucky plays small ball. If we can handle that we will be in Omaha. That's a big IF though as fielding has been spotty all year. Let's hope we were just saving up good fielding for the post season!! I've watched most of Kentucky's game 1 & 2 in their Lexington Regional.(I'll watch game 3 tonight.) Their turf plays different than the turf at Goss. It doesn't seem hot or super fast but when ball leaves the infield, some high bounces that aren't natural seem to occur on what would be the dirt on a grass field. Here's "a toast" to good Beaver fielding.(As I down a shot with nice strong beer.😀) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 7, 2024 14:55:20 GMT -8
To me this series will come down to our fielding. We are good at the plate and pitching is on an upswing. Kentucky plays small ball. If we can handle that we will be in Omaha. That's a big IF though as fielding has been spotty all year. Let's hope we were just saving up good fielding for the post season!! I've watched most of Kentucky's game 1 & 2 in their Lexington Regional.(I'll watch game 3 tonight.) Their turf plays different than the turf at Goss. It doesn't seem hot or super fast but when ball leaves the infield, some high bounces that aren't natural seem to occur on what would be the dirt on a grass field. Here's "a toast" to good Beaver fielding.(As I down a shot with nice strong beer.😀) I was watching some of the Lexington Regional, and it seemed like the deep middle infield, out generally past second, has some uneven spots which were causing some weird bounces. Is that what you were seeing? And is the issue anywhere else other than the deep middle infield? |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 7, 2024 15:02:25 GMT -8
To me this series will come down to our fielding. We are good at the plate and pitching is on an upswing. Kentucky plays small ball. If we can handle that we will be in Omaha. That's a big IF though as fielding has been spotty all year. Let's hope we were just saving up good fielding for the post season!! Yea that Caraway to Guerra stuff can't happen. Not against a team like tucky |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 7, 2024 15:05:36 GMT -8
I'll just go on the current teams and their schedules. No idea how each roster will handle the pressure but UK has simply seen more games of better competition... like 19-9 vs our 6-4 (not sure if those are exact, but close?!) vs tourney teams. AND they are at home in their own beds and everyday habits. That's two huge plusses. I know this, if the scenarios were reversed we'd all say OSU should win this Super... hands down. That's pretty much what the consensus was in '22 vs a newbie Auburn team. In a "sick" way that SR what gives me some confidence in this matchup! RPI and SOS are so broken it's hard to take it seriously. SEC went 5-11 in the regionals and although they only dropped one regional they hosted (Arkansas) and did gain one (Florida) they did lose quite a few games they were favored in via regular season RPI. ACC performed quite well and we're the best predicted by RPI. Missouri Valley and the PAC 12 had the biggest positive performances vs RPI due to Arizona backwards regional and Oregon's performance. This week will really be a test of it all but since post season selection is heavily influenced by RPI how many Q1 teams and post season teams someone beat is looking pretty useless. What I would say is any team that stacks up over 40 wins better be respected no matter where they come from. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 7, 2024 15:13:34 GMT -8
I'll just go on the current teams and their schedules. No idea how each roster will handle the pressure but UK has simply seen more games of better competition... like 19-9 vs our 6-4 (not sure if those are exact, but close?!) vs tourney teams. AND they are at home in their own beds and everyday habits. That's two huge plusses. I know this, if the scenarios were reversed we'd all say OSU should win this Super... hands down. That's pretty much what the consensus was in '22 vs a newbie Auburn team. In a "sick" way that SR what gives me some confidence in this matchup! RPI and SOS are so broken it's hard to take it seriously. SEC went 5-11 in the regionals and although they only dropped one regional they hosted (Arkansas) and did gain one (Florida) they did lose quite a few games they were favored in via regular season RPI. ACC performed quite well and we're the best predicted by RPI. Missouri Valley and the PAC 12 had the biggest positive performances vs RPI due to Arizona backwards regional and Oregon's performance. This week will really be a test of it all but since post season selection is heavily influenced by RPI how many Q1 teams and post season teams someone beat is looking pretty useless. What I would say is any team that stacks up over 40 wins better be respected no matter where they come from. Highest winning percentage by conference: 1. Pac-12
2. ACC
3. SEC
4. Big 12
5. Missouri Valley
The SEC is one of the best conferences, but the above says that there should have been one fewer SEC teams and one more Pac-12 team.
RPI is a useful tool. But it is overused, and, when it is used, it is most often misused. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 7, 2024 15:24:13 GMT -8
RPI and SOS are so broken it's hard to take it seriously. SEC went 5-11 in the regionals and although they only dropped one regional they hosted (Arkansas) and did gain one (Florida) they did lose quite a few games they were favored in via regular season RPI. ACC performed quite well and we're the best predicted by RPI. Missouri Valley and the PAC 12 had the biggest positive performances vs RPI due to Arizona backwards regional and Oregon's performance. This week will really be a test of it all but since post season selection is heavily influenced by RPI how many Q1 teams and post season teams someone beat is looking pretty useless. What I would say is any team that stacks up over 40 wins better be respected no matter where they come from. Highest winning percentage by conference: 1. Pac-12
2. ACC
3. SEC
4. Big 12
5. Missouri Valley
The SEC is one of the best conferences, but the above says that there should have been one fewer SEC teams and one more Pac-12 team.
RPI is a useful tool. But it is overused, and, when it is used, it is most often misused.Year to year over the last decade the SEC has atleast 2 of the best teams in the country. That doesn't mean the 5-11 teams in the conference are good. If they can maintain consistent quality of the last decade I would say 6-8 SEC post season teams is going to be accurate. I don't really think the PAC deserved more teams but there are plenty of lower level teams like Lamar that should get a chance and when they win some games its so exciting compared to Vandy getting executed on a s%#t season for them. |
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