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Caraway??
May 31, 2024 10:42:43 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2024 10:42:43 GMT -8
Apparently Oregon State doesn't know what it's doing when it comes to the baseball program. Pay no attention to the WBB and VB programs behind the curtain! Nothing to see there. They are just fine going to the WCC. Nobody entered the portal because of that. Remember: Lesser is better! Well, first comparing the three programs you mention is pretty funny. Really not a lot of similarities... in many many regards. Second, to be literal, they don't know what they're doing. OSU, nor any of the staff, have ever done an independent baseball schedule. Nor can they say what effect it will have. It's basically an experiment they hope turns out well. I don't think year 1 will have much of a negative effect. Portal "stuff" is going to happen no matter what. Who leaves, who comes will be full of speculation. The lack of (or lesser) conference can be tossed around. But, it also seems to be a common nail to hang one's hat no matter the real issue. The schedule will be interesting. I'm guessing OSU will be one of the last, if not last, to have a complete/verified full schedule. Even then we know schedules can change over the summer, fall. For lack of a better word, other than preseason stuff, they will get to file through the "leftovers" after other conference schedules & tournaments are set. No one can tell the who or where until other conferences are set. Then who/where wants to play OSU. So quite literally they don't know what they are doing. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 31, 2024 10:43:31 GMT -8
Apparently Oregon State doesn't know what it's doing when it comes to the baseball program. Pay no attention to the WBB and VB programs behind the curtain! Nothing to see there. They are just fine going to the WCC. Nobody entered the portal because of that. Remember: Lesser is better! Players don't enter the portal until their season is over. Baseball season isn't over, so any comparison to WBB and VB at this point is worthless. We'll see what happens. We will have baseball players in the portal. Just as we did last year, when we lost a starter to a lesser conference. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 31, 2024 10:45:26 GMT -8
"Former recruiting classes, past success aren't relevant in today's college climate." This is ridiculous! In baseball, for us, those things mean everything! Lol... who is "us"? Do they determine the climate if college sports today? Hmmmm... did those things get OSU a P4 conference invite? So if you live in the past and are an OSU fan... guess you're right. They are relevant to new recruiting and who the program is... as mentioned in the post. But, as most who can read entire threads and posts... Not in determining if an independent schedule or conference affiliation matters. Which of course was the discussion. I read ur rambling post. We get it. You think going indie was a mistake, and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. I think I'll trust the leadership of the baseball program over you, rgeorge. As for the quote, my point is our program even existing at this level is the reason we have options. We didn't have options in basketball/VB. We have a chance to stay relevant in baseball. We need to be able to attract the same level of talent we've enjoyed. We do not do that as an affiliate of the WCC, or MWC. |
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Caraway??
May 31, 2024 10:59:03 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2024 10:59:03 GMT -8
Lol... who is "us"? Do they determine the climate if college sports today? Hmmmm... did those things get OSU a P4 conference invite? So if you live in the past and are an OSU fan... guess you're right. They are relevant to new recruiting and who the program is... as mentioned in the post. But, as most who can read entire threads and posts... Not in determining if an independent schedule or conference affiliation matters. Which of course was the discussion. I read ur rambling post. We get it. You think going indie was a mistake, and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. I think I'll trust the leadership of the baseball program over you, rgeorge. As for the quote, my point is our program even existing at this level is the reason we have options. We didn't have options in basketball/VB. We have a chance to stay relevant in baseball. We need to be able to attract the same level of talent we've enjoyed. We do not do that as an affiliate of the WCC, or MWC. You seem to be an angry person, easily triggered, with cognitive distortions as the norm. You seem to have the issue with differing views, then purely making stuff up!? I'm not quite sure what's wrong with you, but I'm guessing it's hard to pronounce! 😉Good luck |
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Post by grayman on May 31, 2024 11:37:32 GMT -8
Apparently Oregon State doesn't know what it's doing when it comes to the baseball program. Pay no attention to the WBB and VB programs behind the curtain! Nothing to see there. They are just fine going to the WCC. Nobody entered the portal because of that. Remember: Lesser is better! Well, first comparing the three programs you mention is pretty funny. Really not a lot of similarities... in many many regards. Second, to be literal, they don't know what they're doing. OSU, nor any of the staff, have ever done an independent baseball schedule. Nor can they say what effect it will have. It's basically an experiment they hope turns out well. I don't think year 1 will have much of a negative effect. Portal "stuff" is going to happen no matter what. Who leaves, who comes will be full of speculation. The lack of (or lesser) conference can be tossed around. But, it also seems to be a common nail to hang one's hat no matter the real issue. The schedule will be interesting. I'm guessing OSU will be one of the last, if not last, to have a complete/verified full schedule. Even then we know schedules can change over the summer, fall. For lack of a better word, other than preseason stuff, they will get to file through the "leftovers" after other conference schedules & tournaments are set. No one can tell the who or where until other conferences are set. Then who/where wants to play OSU. So quite literally they don't know what they are doing. Technically, yeah, they've not been independent. They know how to operate a program. The scheduling aspect is the most daunting part of it and they seem certain that they can get one completed. |
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Post by grayman on May 31, 2024 11:40:22 GMT -8
Apparently Oregon State doesn't know what it's doing when it comes to the baseball program. Pay no attention to the WBB and VB programs behind the curtain! Nothing to see there. They are just fine going to the WCC. Nobody entered the portal because of that. Remember: Lesser is better! Players don't enter the portal until their season is over. Baseball season isn't over, so any comparison to WBB and VB at this point is worthless. We'll see what happens. We will have baseball players in the portal. Just as we did last year, when we lost a starter to a lesser conference. Yeah, there's no doubt that some will enter the portal. I just don't believe for a second that it will be a wholesale departure of key players like it has with the WCC-bound programs. |
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Caraway??
May 31, 2024 11:55:04 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2024 11:55:04 GMT -8
Players don't enter the portal until their season is over. Baseball season isn't over, so any comparison to WBB and VB at this point is worthless. We'll see what happens. We will have baseball players in the portal. Just as we did last year, when we lost a starter to a lesser conference. Yeah, there's no doubt that some will enter the portal. I just don't believe for a second that it will be a wholesale departure of key players like it has with the WCC-bound programs. The major difference in that area is that the portal + draft is a combo effect. OSU will already have key losses without considering the possible portal effect. Those other two didn't have that. Really never will. |
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Post by grayman on May 31, 2024 12:04:56 GMT -8
Yeah, there's no doubt that some will enter the portal. I just don't believe for a second that it will be a wholesale departure of key players like it has with the WCC-bound programs. The major difference in that area is that the portal + draft is a combo effect. OSU will already have key losses without considering the possible portal effect. Those other two didn't have that. Really never will. Yeah, I'm really just focusing on the portal effect, not on pro drafts (affects the football program as well). I always assume there will be attrition in certain sports due to players turning pro. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 31, 2024 13:46:25 GMT -8
Players don't enter the portal until their season is over. Baseball season isn't over, so any comparison to WBB and VB at this point is worthless. We'll see what happens. We will have baseball players in the portal. Just as we did last year, when we lost a starter to a lesser conference. Yeah, there's no doubt that some will enter the portal. I just don't believe for a second that it will be a wholesale departure of key players like it has with the WCC-bound programs. How many of our top VB players are in the portal? How many of our men's soccer players are in the portal? How many of our women's soccer players are in the portal? I truly don't know. Sounds as if you do, to say there have been "wholesale departures of key players" in WCC-bound sports. Who are they? |
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Post by Bodhisattva on May 31, 2024 15:51:17 GMT -8
He’s starting at 3rd today
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 31, 2024 15:51:29 GMT -8
Caraway officially in the lineup tonight. Starting at 3rd base and batting 7th.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 31, 2024 15:58:14 GMT -8
No Trosky.
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Post by grayman on May 31, 2024 16:01:30 GMT -8
Yeah, there's no doubt that some will enter the portal. I just don't believe for a second that it will be a wholesale departure of key players like it has with the WCC-bound programs. How many of our top VB players are in the portal? How many of our men's soccer players are in the portal? How many of our women's soccer players are in the portal? I truly don't know. Sounds as if you do, to say there have been "wholesale departures of key players" in WCC-bound sports. Who are they? Yeah, sorry, I meant to type SB not VB. I do know volleyball lost three (maybe four) players to the portal but had lost seven to eligibility and nearly all of the top statistical players, so not much left from what was a below average team. Personally, I doubt that any of the OSU athletes would prefer playing in the WCC to the Pac-12. And I believe that has led to major portal defections in men's and women's basketball and softball. Soccer has no portal entries as far as I can find. But we both know that the WCC has a national reputation as a strong soccer conference. Funny how that works. |
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Post by beavaristotle on May 31, 2024 19:36:02 GMT -8
Caraway cannot throw the ball across the infield,(2 errors )Trosky should be in the starting lineup
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Post by Judge Smails on May 31, 2024 19:53:18 GMT -8
Caraway cannot throw the ball across the infield,(2 errors )Trosky should be in the starting lineup He has 2 hits. Guerra is not a 1st baseman. Any decent 1st baseman picks both those balls. |
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