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Post by tamatrix on May 28, 2024 13:42:31 GMT -8
Coming from our two regionals on who heads to Omaha, the eight D1 baseball guys didn't go the way I thought they might....
2x Kentucky 2x Irvine 4x Oregon State
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 28, 2024 14:14:58 GMT -8
Our pitching down the stretch is likely what caused those four to pick us
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 28, 2024 14:49:40 GMT -8
I definitely like our odds if UK loses their regional and we host a SR. Irvine worries me more than any other team in the Lexington regional outside of Kentucky themselves.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 28, 2024 15:04:44 GMT -8
No easy paths to the CWS...except Wake last year.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 28, 2024 21:17:27 GMT -8
I definitely like our odds if UK loses their regional and we host a SR. Irvine worries me more than any other team in the Lexington regional outside of Kentucky themselves. Illinois. Illinois won the Big Ten Regular Season Championship. Illinois and Kentucky are better than Irvine. Indiana State has a better 1-2 punch at pitcher with Jared Spencer and Luke Hayden than any team in the Corvallis and Lexington Regionals, Kentucky and Oregon State included. The rest of Indiana State's team is not on the same level, but their starters will be tough to beat. Irvine has the best lineup of every team in both regionals top-to-bottom, but Indiana State has better starting pitching and Illinois has a better all-around team. That is my read at the moment.
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Post by beaver1989 on May 28, 2024 21:32:11 GMT -8
I definitely like our odds if UK loses their regional and we host a SR. Irvine worries me more than any other team in the Lexington regional outside of Kentucky themselves. Illinois. Illinois won the Big Ten Regular Season Championship. Illinois and Kentucky are better than Irvine. Indiana State has a better 1-2 punch at pitcher with Jared Spencer and Luke Hayden than any team in the Corvallis and Lexington Regionals, Kentucky and Oregon State included. The rest of Indiana State's team is not on the same level, but their starters will be tough to beat. Irvine has the best lineup of every team in both regionals top-to-bottom, but Indiana State has better starting pitching and Illinois has a better all-around team. That is my read at the moment. You know what caught my attention with Irvine. Team batting average of .316 Team on base percentage of .445
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 29, 2024 7:30:02 GMT -8
I definitely like our odds if UK loses their regional and we host a SR. Irvine worries me more than any other team in the Lexington regional outside of Kentucky themselves. Illinois. Illinois won the Big Ten Regular Season Championship. Illinois and Kentucky are better than Irvine. Indiana State has a better 1-2 punch at pitcher with Jared Spencer and Luke Hayden than any team in the Corvallis and Lexington Regionals, Kentucky and Oregon State included. The rest of Indiana State's team is not on the same level, but their starters will be tough to beat. Irvine has the best lineup of every team in both regionals top-to-bottom, but Indiana State has better starting pitching and Illinois has a better all-around team. That is my read at the moment. You think Irvine has a better lineup than us? You think they would've put up same numbers in Pac 12? I think they get knocked down a peg, or two, in this conference.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2024 12:36:11 GMT -8
Illinois. Illinois won the Big Ten Regular Season Championship. Illinois and Kentucky are better than Irvine. Indiana State has a better 1-2 punch at pitcher with Jared Spencer and Luke Hayden than any team in the Corvallis and Lexington Regionals, Kentucky and Oregon State included. The rest of Indiana State's team is not on the same level, but their starters will be tough to beat. Irvine has the best lineup of every team in both regionals top-to-bottom, but Indiana State has better starting pitching and Illinois has a better all-around team. That is my read at the moment. You think Irvine has a better lineup than us? You think they would've put up same numbers in Pac 12? I think they get knocked down a peg, or two, in this conference. I think that Oregon State has the best lineup West of College Station. But I think that Irvine is a close second with various Big 12 and Pac-12 teams following those two. Irvine also has probably the second-best ace in Pinto. Pinto plus that lineup would be a tough ask to overcome. Irvine should be scared to play Oregon State, but Oregon State must at least respect Irvine.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 29, 2024 12:56:12 GMT -8
You think Irvine has a better lineup than us? You think they would've put up same numbers in Pac 12? I think they get knocked down a peg, or two, in this conference. I think that Oregon State has the best lineup West of College Station. But I think that Irvine is a close second with various Big 12 and Pac-12 teams following those two. Irvine also has probably the second-best ace in Pinto. Pinto plus that lineup would be a tough ask to overcome. Irvine should be scared to play Oregon State, but Oregon State must at least respect Irvine. Fair enough. At Goss I like our chances vs anyone. This Beavs team is obviously really good at home. I don't know anything really about Irvine this year. So do think Pinto is a better ace than May? Maybe has a better ERA, and I would put May in the convo with any Friday night guy right now.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2024 13:00:31 GMT -8
I think that Oregon State has the best lineup West of College Station. But I think that Irvine is a close second with various Big 12 and Pac-12 teams following those two. Irvine also has probably the second-best ace in Pinto. Pinto plus that lineup would be a tough ask to overcome. Irvine should be scared to play Oregon State, but Oregon State must at least respect Irvine. Fair enough. At Goss I like our chances vs anyone. This Beavs team is obviously really good at home. I don't know anything really about Irvine this year. So do think Pinto is a better ace than May? Maybe has a better ERA, and I would put May in the convo with any Friday night guy right now. I think May is the best ace in the Corvallis Regional. I said that Pinto is probably second. I worry about a Kmatz-Pinto matchup, less about a May-Pinto matchup. This whole thing reminds me of the general saying of the upper staff of the United State Navy to the various captains and lower-level seamen, "If you find yourself in a fair fight, we have done something wrong." At a neutral site in a vacuum, I worry that a May-Pinto matchup would be close to a fair fight. And I worry that Kmatz-Pinto might be more than fair.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 29, 2024 13:04:17 GMT -8
Meant to say May has better ERA than Pinto
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Post by Judge Smails on May 29, 2024 13:08:43 GMT -8
Meant to say May has better ERA than Pinto I think you have to pitch May on Friday. I don't think you should push May into June.
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 29, 2024 13:14:52 GMT -8
You think Irvine has a better lineup than us? You think they would've put up same numbers in Pac 12? I think they get knocked down a peg, or two, in this conference. I think that Oregon State has the best lineup West of College Station. But I think that Irvine is a close second with various Big 12 and Pac-12 teams following those two. Irvine also has probably the second-best ace in Pinto. Pinto plus that lineup would be a tough ask to overcome. Irvine should be scared to play Oregon State, but Oregon State must at least respect Irvine. I just expect visiting teams in the post season to pitch great on the first night. I think back a couple years ago when Mejia from New Mexico State went toe to toe with Hjerpe. If I recall, there really was no statistical indication he should be sharing the same field as Coop and yet there he was stealing the limelight that night. Mejia 7.1 IP 4 ER Hjerpe 6.2 IP 3 ER Beaver Nation gave Mejia a standing O for his gritty performance after he got the hook. NM St tied game up in 9th and then in the 10th Bazzana scored on a bases loaded walk earned by Boyd. A walk off walk....on a night of mostly stellar pitching. lol
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2024 14:26:48 GMT -8
I think that Oregon State has the best lineup West of College Station. But I think that Irvine is a close second with various Big 12 and Pac-12 teams following those two. Irvine also has probably the second-best ace in Pinto. Pinto plus that lineup would be a tough ask to overcome. Irvine should be scared to play Oregon State, but Oregon State must at least respect Irvine. I just expect visiting teams in the post season to pitch great on the first night. I think back a couple years ago when Mejia from New Mexico State went toe to toe with Hjerpe. If I recall, there really was no statistical indication he should be sharing the same field as Coop and yet there he was stealing the limelight that night. Mejia 7.1 IP 4 ER Hjerpe 6.2 IP 3 ER Beaver Nation gave Mejia a standing O for his gritty performance after he got the hook. NM St tied game up in 9th and then in the 10th Bazzana scored on a bases loaded walk earned by Boyd. A walk off walk....on a night of mostly stellar pitching. lol Only 4 of 15 baserunners scored. Stranded two in the first after Baz struck out looking on an eight-pitch at bat. Two runners in scoring position with no outs in the second. No runs. The third ended after Logan, inexplicably hitting fifth, hit into a double-play. Two on and no outs in the fourth before Baz was picked off to poison the inning. Forrester was stranded at second in the fifth after a Logan flyout. Strike 'em out, throw 'em out between Dukart and Baz to start the sixth off poorly. Forrester was stranded at third in the seventh after a Logan line out. Dukart walked on six pitches in the eighth, baserunner #15. Incredibly awful clutch offense. Derne was a hole in the lineup. Dukart reached in three of his four plate appearances but was the strikeout in a strike 'em out, throw 'em out in the sixth. Gretler singled in the second and got to second on a wild pitch. But Dukart and Gretler were stranded there as the 9-1 hitters each failed to advance the runners and Meckler failed to reach. Gretler otherwise did nothing. The lineup sucked and looks worse with time. Oregon State actually put more runners on than Mejia had throughout the rest of the season and scored more runs. Mejia's WHIP went from 1.45 to 1.47, and his ERA went from 4.24 to 4.29 after playing Oregon State. Mejia was actually worse than he had been the rest of the season, maybe not enough worse for some people, but Mejia did not overperform. I read through some of the posts from back in 2022 recently, and it was interesting to see several on here badmouth Hjerpe for giving up three. It was apparently wet, because the general response was that Hjerpe would have pitched better, if it were dry. Oregon State still should have won the game, but Ferrer gave up single, groundball to advance the runner, and single to tie the game to start the ninth. Blown save. Dorman left a much better pitcher on the bench in Brown (presumably to save Brown for San Diego) before belatedly calling for Brown to replace Ferrer with the go-ahead runner on first. The runner on first wound up going to third on a bad pickoff play but was stranded there to preserve the tie. Brown did well in the 10th, generating what should have been four outs but for a bad throw by Derne. In the 10th, Trosky pinch hit for Derne, showing that that is not as impossible as Judge Smails seems to think that it is. Trosky drew a walk to load the bases. Boyd then walked to win the game 5-4 in 10. The last eight pitches were all balls. As a final aside, Mejia is a AA pitcher for the Braves, apparently a little further ahead of Cardinal A+ pitcher, Hjerpe.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 29, 2024 14:31:55 GMT -8
We have two very good experienced starters. Either can do quality innings against these opponents. Do whatever it is that helps them have a good comfortable outing.
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