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Post by beaverinsider211 on May 14, 2024 18:52:00 GMT -8
I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff. All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference. It will definitely be a hostile environment. Arizona uses Hi-Corbett to their advantage I think better than most teams use their home field. It’s a big field. Tough for OF’s to adjust when you’re used to smaller college stadiums. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 14, 2024 21:20:05 GMT -8
UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. Great stuff up top. Oregon State is not fully slotted into the #2, as Oregon, USC, and Utah can pass the Beavs. (Although only USC or Utah can. I.e. only one of the two can; they both cannot.) Oregon State can finish first second, third, or fourth. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with a sweep. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 2-1. If Oregon State goes 1-2, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and an Arizona series win. Utah would clinch the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona series win, and anything but a sweep by Oregon. Oregon also has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona has the tiebreaker over Utah. If Oregon State gets swept, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a series win. USC can also pass Oregon State with a sweep. USC could win the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona sweep, and a Wazzu series win. Arizona State is currently in fifth. The only way that Arizona State does not finish fifth is if Wazzu sweeps Oregon. In that case Arizona State would finish fourth. USC can finish anywhere between second and seventh. Second was outlined above. USC needs to sweep to finish between #2 and #4 and it depends on how the Oregon schools do. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than fifth, as Arizona State, Oregon State, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. And fifth would require a Wazzu sweep of Oregon at PK. Without that USC is in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final three to clinch the #6 seed. Cal can finish between #6 and #8. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final three. Stanford can pass Cal into #7 with a sweep of UCLA and a Washington sweep over Cal. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to finish two games better over the final three against Cal to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to finish two games better over the final three to pass Washington. Wazzu has to sweep Oregon and see Stanford swept by UCLA to finish ahead of Stanford. If Wazzu does not pass either Stanford or Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play two teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah
#9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8
#5 Arizona State or Oregon
#8 Cal, Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Arizona State is #5, Wazzu can finish no higher than #9
If Oregon State finishes #3 (or #4), the opponents will be #4 (or #3) and #7.
#4/#3 Arizona State (cannot finish #3), Oregon, USC, or Utah
#7 Cal, Stanford, or USC
Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth.
If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win 2+ more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win 2+ more games than Washington.
Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games.
Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 or #3-#4 matchup.
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Post by rgeorge on May 14, 2024 23:44:48 GMT -8
Top frosh hitter?? Some folks need to do research! .351/.435/.556 with a .991 OPS? Before he got hurt was a top 4 freshman bat in the country? Was also a top 4 bat on this team? Multiple clutch scenarios that he performed in at the start of the season? I’m not rocket scientist but I would say we need that guy to make a run. Whenever he’s ready I’d put him back out there because not only has he been important this year but he and Turley are the most important pieces of the offense next year. I’ll mention Macias as another important piece for that lineup as well next year. I’ve also heard a lot of people talk about his leadership on the team. We had a good weekend against a bad team in UCLA. I don’t know if Caraway will be ready to go this weekend but whenever he is you don’t leave a game changer typer player on the bench. I'm really not here to argue... but, I'll not shy away from pointing out the difference between a potentially good start to a season and a good season. Trent began the season with potential but had plenty of struggles. He played in 14 games. That isn't a complete data set when compared to other top Frosh who have performed all season. Let alone stating it makes him a "top" hitter. Trent's 14 game #s came versus teams with an average RPI at 131. Yet he had more Ks than hits, 4:1 K:BB ratio... and with 21 Ks in 14 games was on pace for 70-80+. He played in only two conference games where the pitching got better. He went 2 fer 8 with 6 Ks at Utah. That's not to mention a .824 FA. So depending on which #s you focus on the picture shifts. But, either way 14 games didn't make anyone a Top hitter. Two quick examples. True Frosh, full season to date ... far more complete data and vs SOS 37 and 16 (OSU currently at 74): 49G/.376/.812/.504/1.316 add 70H/65R/21HR/59RBI/33K/47BB Or... 51G/.356/.727/.439/1.166 add 73H/47R/20HR/62RBI/55K/25BB Better players? Who knows. They didn't get the crappy break Caraway got. But, both have excelled over an entire season. They definitely have proven they are two of the top Frosh hitters in the country. The same board hype centered on Turley last year. He can hit some majestic flyballs and ended on a positive note last season. But, he hit .164 in Pac12 play. He K'd 60 times and would have easily surpassed Larnach's 66 if he hadn't sat a lot of conference games. Has he improved? Yep, in many areas. But, will probably break that "66" this year as he's at 60 now. And, easily on pace for the career # of 151(?). So, he'll break the career HR and K records... if some NIL $ doesn't lure him away. Great player? Each fan has their opinions. FWIW... weird, but two guys will most likely break the "66" K mark. As Krieg is above Gavin at 62. The year of broken records. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 15, 2024 6:39:57 GMT -8
"I think we need to remember that UCLA is in dead last in the conference. They are not a good ball club, and specifically, their pitching is bad. Im pretty sure they've had a pile of injuries to their staff. All im saying is UCLA at home, vs Zona on the road, is completely different animal for our lineup. zona has the #1 era in the conference." They have the #1 ERA because they have not played us yet. These are going to be intermural softball scores. We'll see. Every game is different. This is not your typical Zona ball club. They seem to be built on pitching, and defense. Our lineup seems to be hitting on all cylinders. Will they shut us down? Will we continue the hot hitting? Will we continue to makes errors at a high rate? Will we be able to overcome our poor play on the road? These questions will be answered starting tomorrow night. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 16, 2024 22:37:48 GMT -8
UCLA has (1) starter in top 25 in Pac12 play in ERA... Jewett @ 5.11 w/1.74 WHIP. The other main starters have ERAs over 6 in Pac12 play... 6.25, 8.40... WHIP 1.67, 1.93. And, have very low K/9 numbers... 5.74, 4.50 Arizona starters are all in the top 7... 2 33, 3.35, 3.54. All have WHIPs in Top 20, 1.05, 1.30, 1.45. All with decent K/9... 8.18, 8.72, 9.47. And, have given up a total of 10 HRs in 160 IP. One set of starters is very good, the other is on the complete opposite end of that spectrum. *the ball does fly better in Tuscon, not sure how much in comparison to nice weather Goss? But, field surface & dimensions are very different. Goss...330-Left, 365-Left Center, 400-Center, 365-Right Center, 330-Right Hi Corbett...366-Left, 410-Left Center, 392-Center, 405-Right Center, 349-Right The alleys are huge and the track fast. Singles turn into doubles when not used to it. And, in all my trips I've never really seen it as a launching pad. Another topic that no one has brought up as OSU is fully slotted as the #2 yet. I hate, HATE, the #2 seed pool, 2,5,8. If there is one team that is greatly improved and can mash as well as OSU, it's #5 seed ASU. And, they are basically at home. They are done at 17-13, hosting TexasTech(?) I believe. Would rather UO or UU get swept and fall to 5th. Both have the tie breaker over ASU if either/both goes 1-2. Great stuff up top. Oregon State is not fully slotted into the #2, as Oregon, USC, and Utah can pass the Beavs. (Although only USC or Utah can. I.e. only one of the two can; they both cannot.) Oregon State can finish first, second, third, or fourth. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with a sweep. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 2-1. If Oregon State goes 1-2, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and an Arizona series win. Utah would clinch the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona series win, and anything but a sweep by Oregon. Oregon also has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona has the tiebreaker over Utah. If Oregon State gets swept, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a series win. USC can also pass Oregon State with a sweep. USC could win the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona sweep, and a Wazzu series win. Arizona State is currently in fifth. The only way that Arizona State does not finish fifth is if Wazzu sweeps Oregon. In that case Arizona State would finish fourth. USC can finish anywhere between second and seventh. Second was outlined above. USC needs to sweep to finish between #2 and #4 and it depends on how the Oregon schools do. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than fifth, as Arizona State, Oregon State, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. And fifth would require a Wazzu sweep of Oregon at PK. Without that USC is in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final three to clinch the #6 seed. Cal can finish between #6 and #8. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final three. Stanford can pass Cal into #7 with a sweep of UCLA and a Washington sweep over Cal. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to finish two games better over the final three against Cal to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to finish two games better over the final three to pass Washington. Wazzu has to sweep Oregon and see Stanford swept by UCLA to finish ahead of Stanford. If Wazzu does not pass either Stanford or Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. Oregon State can finish first, second, or third. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with two more wins. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 1-1. If Oregon State goes 0-2, Oregon can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and two Arizona wins. Oregon has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona State is now locked into fifth and will play the #2 seed and #8 seed in the Pac-12 Tournament. USC can finish anywhere between third and seventh. USC needs to sweep to finish #3 or #4 and it depends on how Oregon does. #4 if Oregon loses out. #3 if Oregon wins another game. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than sixth, as Arizona State, Oregon, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. At that point, USC would be in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final two to clinch the #6 seed. Cal will finish #6 or #7. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final two. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to win the final two and have Stanford lose the final two to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to win the final two games over Oregon and have Washington lose the final two games against Cal. If Wazzu does not pass Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 16, 2024 23:19:48 GMT -8
Great stuff up top. Oregon State is not fully slotted into the #2, as Oregon, USC, and Utah can pass the Beavs. (Although only USC or Utah can. I.e. only one of the two can; they both cannot.) Oregon State can finish first second, third, or fourth. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with a sweep. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 2-1. If Oregon State goes 1-2, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and an Arizona series win. Utah would clinch the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona series win, and anything but a sweep by Oregon. Oregon also has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona has the tiebreaker over Utah. If Oregon State gets swept, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a series win. USC can also pass Oregon State with a sweep. USC could win the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona sweep, and a Wazzu series win. Arizona State is currently in fifth. The only way that Arizona State does not finish fifth is if Wazzu sweeps Oregon. In that case Arizona State would finish fourth. USC can finish anywhere between second and seventh. Second was outlined above. USC needs to sweep to finish between #2 and #4 and it depends on how the Oregon schools do. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than fifth, as Arizona State, Oregon State, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. And fifth would require a Wazzu sweep of Oregon at PK. Without that USC is in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final three to clinch the #6 seed. Cal can finish between #6 and #8. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final three. Stanford can pass Cal into #7 with a sweep of UCLA and a Washington sweep over Cal. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to finish two games better over the final three against Cal to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to finish two games better over the final three to pass Washington. Wazzu has to sweep Oregon and see Stanford swept by UCLA to finish ahead of Stanford. If Wazzu does not pass either Stanford or Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah
#9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8
#5 Arizona State or Oregon
#8 Cal, Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Arizona State is #5, Wazzu can finish no higher than #9
If Oregon State finishes #3 (or #4), the opponents will be #4 (or #3) and #7.
#4/#3 Arizona State (cannot finish #3), Oregon, USC, or Utah
#7 Cal, Stanford, or USC
Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth.
If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win 2+ more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win 2+ more games than Washington.
Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games.
Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 or #3-#4 matchup.
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah #9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8 #5 Arizona State #8 Stanford or Washington If Oregon State finishes #3, the opponents will be #4 and #7. #4 USC or Utah #7 Cal, USC, or Utah Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth. If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win two more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win two more games than Washington. Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games. Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 matchup. With Arizona State locked in as the #5 seed, it becomes very important to win the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 16:05:44 GMT -8
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah
#9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8
#5 Arizona State or Oregon
#8 Cal, Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Arizona State is #5, Wazzu can finish no higher than #9
If Oregon State finishes #3 (or #4), the opponents will be #4 (or #3) and #7.
#4/#3 Arizona State (cannot finish #3), Oregon, USC, or Utah
#7 Cal, Stanford, or USC
Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth.
If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win 2+ more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win 2+ more games than Washington.
Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games.
Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 or #3-#4 matchup.
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah #9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8 #5 Arizona State #8 Stanford or Washington If Oregon State finishes #3, the opponents will be #4 and #7. #4 USC or Utah #7 Cal, USC, or Utah Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth. If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win two more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win two more games than Washington. Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games. Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 matchup. With Arizona State locked in as the #5 seed, it becomes very important to win the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. For RPI purposes: If Oregon State finishes third, I hope that Utah finishes fourth and Cal seventh. If Oregon State finished second, I hope that Washington passes Stanford into eighth. If Oregon State finishes first, I hope that Cal passes USC into sixth and Washington finishes ninth. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 21:55:58 GMT -8
Great stuff up top. Oregon State is not fully slotted into the #2, as Oregon, USC, and Utah can pass the Beavs. (Although only USC or Utah can. I.e. only one of the two can; they both cannot.) Oregon State can finish first, second, third, or fourth. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with a sweep. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 2-1. If Oregon State goes 1-2, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and an Arizona series win. Utah would clinch the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona series win, and anything but a sweep by Oregon. Oregon also has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona has the tiebreaker over Utah. If Oregon State gets swept, Oregon and Utah can pass Oregon State with a series win. USC can also pass Oregon State with a sweep. USC could win the #2 seed with a sweep, an Arizona sweep, and a Wazzu series win. Arizona State is currently in fifth. The only way that Arizona State does not finish fifth is if Wazzu sweeps Oregon. In that case Arizona State would finish fourth. USC can finish anywhere between second and seventh. Second was outlined above. USC needs to sweep to finish between #2 and #4 and it depends on how the Oregon schools do. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than fifth, as Arizona State, Oregon State, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. And fifth would require a Wazzu sweep of Oregon at PK. Without that USC is in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final three to clinch the #6 seed. Cal can finish between #6 and #8. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final three. Stanford can pass Cal into #7 with a sweep of UCLA and a Washington sweep over Cal. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to finish two games better over the final three against Cal to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to finish two games better over the final three to pass Washington. Wazzu has to sweep Oregon and see Stanford swept by UCLA to finish ahead of Stanford. If Wazzu does not pass either Stanford or Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. Oregon State can finish first, second, or third. Oregon State wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with two more wins. Arizona wins the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship with any other result. Oregon State clinches the #2 seed by going 1-1. If Oregon State goes 0-2, Oregon can pass Oregon State with a sweep. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a sweep and two Arizona wins. Oregon has the tiebreaker over Arizona and so would finish #2 with a sweep and an Oregon State sweep. Arizona State is now locked into fifth and will play the #2 seed and #8 seed in the Pac-12 Tournament. USC can finish anywhere between third and seventh. USC needs to sweep to finish #3 or #4 and it depends on how Oregon does. #4 if Oregon loses out. #3 if Oregon wins another game. If USC does not sweep, they can finish no better than sixth, as Arizona State, Oregon, and Utah would be guaranteed to finish above USC. At that point, USC would be in a fight with Cal for sixth, needing to finish with as good or a better record than Cal over the final two to clinch the #6 seed. Cal will finish #6 or #7. Cal passes USC into #6 by finishing with a better record over the final two. Stanford has the tiebreaker over Washington, so Washington has to win the final two and have Stanford lose the final two to finish in #8. Stanford and Washington also have the tiebreakers over Wazzu, so Wazzu has to win the final two games over Oregon and have Washington lose the final two games against Cal. If Wazzu does not pass Washington, Wazzu finishes #10 and is on the outside looking in. Oregon State can finish first or second. The Oregon State @ Arizona winner wins the Pac-12 Championship. Oregon State has clinched no worse than finishing second in the Pac-12. Oregon clinches the #2 seed with a win and an Oregon State win. The Utah @ USC winner finishes fourth. The loser finishes sixth (with a Cal loss) or seventh (with a Cal win). Cal will finish #6 or #7. Cal finishes #6 with a win and #7 with a loss. Arizona State finished #5, Stanford finished #8, and Washington #9. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 22:25:03 GMT -8
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah
#9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8
#5 Arizona State or Oregon
#8 Cal, Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu
If Arizona State is #5, Wazzu can finish no higher than #9
If Oregon State finishes #3 (or #4), the opponents will be #4 (or #3) and #7.
#4/#3 Arizona State (cannot finish #3), Oregon, USC, or Utah
#7 Cal, Stanford, or USC
Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth.
If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win 2+ more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win 2+ more games than Washington.
Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games.
Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 or #3-#4 matchup.
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah #9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8 #5 Arizona State #8 Stanford or Washington If Oregon State finishes #3, the opponents will be #4 and #7. #4 USC or Utah #7 Cal, USC, or Utah Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth. If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win two more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win two more games than Washington. Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games. Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 matchup. With Arizona State locked in as the #5 seed, it becomes very important to win the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play four teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona, Oregon, UCLA, and Wazzu. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah #9 Washington If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8 #5 Arizona State #8 Stanford Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth. If Oregon State beats Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and then Cal, if Cal wins one more game. Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games. Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday in the #2-#5 matchup with Stanford instead of Arizona. With Arizona State locked in as the #5 seed and Stanford as the #8 seed, it becomes very important to win the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 22:30:46 GMT -8
As to opponents, Oregon State can only not play three teams in the first two games of the Pac-12 Tournament: Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA. If Oregon State finishes #1, the opponents will be #6 and #9 #6 Cal, USC, or Utah #9 Stanford, Washington, or Wazzu If Oregon State finishes #2, the opponents will be #5 and #8 #5 Arizona State #8 Stanford or Washington If Oregon State finishes #3, the opponents will be #4 and #7. #4 USC or Utah #7 Cal, USC, or Utah Oregon State started the 2022 Pac-12 Tournament by beating both Washington and Cal en route to a Pac-12 Championship Game berth. If Oregon State sweeps Arizona, Oregon State can start against Washington and Cal, if Cal wins more games than USC and Washington does not win two more games than Stanford and Wazzu does not win two more games than Washington. Oregon State started (and finished) the 2023 Pac-12 Tournament by losing to both Arizona and Arizona State in the Tuesday and Wednesday games. Oregon State cannot play Arizona in the first two games but can play Arizona State on Wednesday either in the #2-#5 matchup. With Arizona State locked in as the #5 seed, it becomes very important to win the Pac-12 Regular Season Championship. For RPI purposes: If Oregon State finishes third, I hope that Utah finishes fourth and Cal seventh. If Oregon State finished second, I hope that Washington passes Stanford into eighth. If Oregon State finishes first, I hope that Cal passes USC into sixth and Washington finishes ninth. For RPI purposes: If Oregon State finished second, the opponents will be Stanford and Arizona State in that order. Very unappealing. If Oregon State finishes first, I hope that Cal passes USC into sixth. So, basically, go Cal! Also, go Utah! Because Utah helps Oregon State's RPI more than USC at the moment. |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 17, 2024 23:53:32 GMT -8
15 of you can suck eggs  And I hope 29 more can tomorrow (myself included) |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 18, 2024 6:44:01 GMT -8
I feel like I'm partially responsible for this solid road trip. I voted one win. You're welcome.
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gnawitall
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Post by gnawitall on May 18, 2024 14:13:14 GMT -8
I voted for a sweep.
10 min ago 😆
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jackburton
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Post by jackburton on May 18, 2024 14:24:10 GMT -8
I will be honest and say that I was not all the positive about this team coming into this season for a variety of reasons. But glad to be eating crow right now as has been a tremendous season for the Beavs and feel confident they can finish out this series strong.
Who is taking the mound? Apologies if missed that somewhere.
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Post by beaver1989 on May 18, 2024 14:43:06 GMT -8
I will be honest and say that I was not all the positive about this team coming into this season for a variety of reasons. But glad to be eating crow right now as has been a tremendous season for the Beavs and feel confident they can finish out this series strong. Who is taking the mound? Apologies if missed that somewhere. A freshman named Sagura will take the mound. Let me guess why you weren't positive going into this year. (You were an outlier BTW.) "We don't have any pitching and Dorman sucks." |
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